JRODRIGUEZ74740 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 2:19 AM, BluRay444 said: I'm a little confused about the meaning of this statement, "Could be done with WIFI which requires an usb in the opposite , or since it is said any USB shall be out of the Oppos, I must make the connection via LAN", but as MikeyFresh has stated, you can use either WiFi or Ethernet, but in my opinion Ethernet would be the preferred. WiFi can certainly be used but depending on your own circumstance, things like what version of WiFi (A, B, G, N, etc), how far your Oppo and Mac are from your Wireless router or Wireless Access Point, encryption overhead, interference from other wireless devices like wireless phones, microwaves, wireless alarms, light dimmers etc, whether you have nearby neighbors with their own Wireless routers and devices on the same band/channel, how many other wireless devices you have that are sharing bandwidth on your wireless router can all play a part in degrading your connection speed; wired ethernet is faster, more reliable, and can easily avoid sharing bandwidth. Like you, I have an Oppo 103, and have used it with my MacBook Pro, but generally use it with my jRiver Media Server (Windows) which plays DSDs and SACD ISOs natively, and while jRiver is available for Mac and Linux, I use the Windows version because jRiver's newest developments generally hit Windows first and then get added to Mac and Linux later. With the Oppo, it's really easy to implement once you figure out the few pieces you need, and what a few settings on the Oppo need to be... all you really need is a thumb drive, some files available elsewhere in this thread and an Ethernet cable (should you decide to go with hardwired Ethernet). Link to comment
JRODRIGUEZ74740 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 thanks for your comment. I was thinking if the stick for Wire less may interfere with the riiping , since it is said that all usb shall be out fro ripping. Link to comment
JRODRIGUEZ74740 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 10:46 PM, MikeyFresh said: The Oppo and your Mac connect and transfer the files via your LAN, either Ethernet or WiFi, assuming you are using the server method of ripping. Thanks Mikey. I see in the network from the Oppo my mac, but when trying to acces to music files from it, a password and user name is required. I have tried using the name and password utilized for opening the mac, and as well the name and password I have for Appel, and none of the two are accepted. as well when opening the ISO2DSD and introducing the Oppo IP I can not get access. But perhaps the problem is that the Chip I have in Oppo is 8550 and not 8580.... Link to comment
BluRay444 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, JRODRIGUEZ74740 said: Thanks Mikey. I see in the network from the Oppo my mac, but when trying to acces to music files from it, a password and user name is required. I have tried using the name and password utilized for opening the mac, and as well the name and password I have for Appel, and none of the two are accepted. as well when opening the ISO2DSD and introducing the Oppo IP I can not get access. But perhaps the problem is that the Chip I have in Oppo is 8550 and not 8580.... As far as I know all Oppo BDP-103's can rip SACD's, and all firmwares work to rip SACD's. My USB thumb drive remains in the front USB connector at all times and doesn't interfere with playing other discs. I never get asked for a password. Why don't you post exactly what you've done to this point to try to get this to work, there are a number of steps and they all have to be correct for the particular disc player you are ripping with. The BDP-103 is one of the easiest to get to work from what I've read here; I had one sitting in the rack doing nothing after buying a UDP-103 and was about to give it away to my nephew until I ran across this thread ☺️ Link to comment
MikeyFresh Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 hours ago, JRODRIGUEZ74740 said: I was thinking if the stick for Wire less may interfere with the riiping I seem to vaguely remember some distant posts from members who said using the 2 USB ports at the same time can cause problems. I would still bet you can get it to go via WiFi if you really can't use Ethernet, probably just leave the WiFi USB dongle disconnected at first, insert the thumb drive and let the AutoScript read in, and after the disc drawer opens, remove the USB thumb drive as it is no longer needed (unless you physically cut power to the machine). Then insert the WiFi USB dongle, do the wireless set-up noting the IP address assigned over WiFi, and then proceed with the rip. Boycott HDtracks Boycott Lenbrook Boycott Warner Music Group Link to comment
Dick Darlington Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 9 hours ago, MikeyFresh said: I seem to vaguely remember some distant posts from members who said using the 2 USB ports at the same time can cause problems. FWIW, I am using the usb WiFi adapter on my Oppo 103 and it works every bit as well as wired Ethernet. (See huge caveat below.) That said there was one time that I was unable to connect and it turned out that the player had stopped detecting the WiFi adaptor for some reason. I attributed that to it having been asleep too long. Removing and reinserting the WiFi dongle brought it back. So I now wonder if I did indeed experience one of the aforementioned problems ?. Huge caveat: This is only the case since upgrading to an Oppo 203 and moving my 103 into the study where it’s now within 10 feet of the router. HOWEVER when it was across the house the WiFi, which was fine for normal A/V streaming was dog slow for the SACD ripping application. In theory my WiFi connection should have been able to support ripping from the other room but it wasn’t worth troubleshooting. So this last part is off topic of @MikeyFresh‘s post, but I wanted to be clear that I’m not making a sweeping statement that WiFi works just as well as wired. It can. But that doesn’t mean it will in every situation. MikeyFresh 1 Link to comment
BluRay444 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Dick Darlington said: FWIW, I am using the usb WiFi adapter on my Oppo 103 and it works every bit as well as wired Ethernet. (See huge caveat below.) That said there was one time that I was unable to connect and it turned out that the player had stopped detecting the WiFi adaptor for some reason. I attributed that to it having been asleep too long. Removing and reinserting the WiFi dongle brought it back. So I now wonder if I did indeed experience one of the aforementioned problems ?. Huge caveat: This is only the case since upgrading to an Oppo 203 and moving my 103 into the study where it’s now within 10 feet of the router. HOWEVER when it was across the house the WiFi, which was fine for normal A/V streaming was dog slow for the SACD ripping application. In theory my WiFi connection should have been able to support ripping from the other room but it wasn’t worth troubleshooting. So this last part is off topic of @MikeyFresh‘s post, but I wanted to be clear that I’m not making a sweeping statement that WiFi works just as well as wired. It can. But that doesn’t mean it will in every situation. Hey, I don't know the details, but it seems like if you're within 10 feet of the router you could just use a cable, unless there's a door threshold (or a wife threshold) standing in the way of progress! ☺️ Dick Darlington 1 Link to comment
JRODRIGUEZ74740 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Thanks for all comments. I have read that it is necessary to have in oppo the firmware the 8580 and not the 8550,which I have in my oppo 103. If this is confirmed that would be reason for not opening the tray of the oppo when inserting the usb. If anybody have done the ripping with the 8550 please let me know. i am going to resell the oppo 103 i did bought for ripping and try to find another one with the 8580, but looking for it in ebay I have not yet found any with that firmware Link to comment
meli Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, JRODRIGUEZ74740 said: ...that would be reason for not opening the tray of the oppo when inserting the usb.... Did you try formatting your USB drive with the MBR partition style (not GPT)? MikeyFresh 1 Link to comment
Popular Post MikeyFresh Posted August 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2018 2 hours ago, JRODRIGUEZ74740 said: If anybody have done the ripping with the 8550 please let me know. i am going to resell the oppo 103 i did bought for ripping and try to find another one with the 8580, but looking for it in ebay I have not yet found any with that firmware I think you have mixed things up here, the numbers you are listing do not correspond to actual Oppo firmware versions. For instance, I have a BDP-103 and it shows the actual firmware version to be BDP-10x-83-1226. You can check that via Setup Menu -> Device Setup -> Firmware Information. Once in that menu, if you select Firmware Information, it takes you to a more thorough Firmware Information screen, there my unit shows the following: Loader Version: 7B1400 8550 1400 Sub Version: MCU103-05-0916 Chip Version: 0C.00.01.00 NRD Version: NRD4.0.4 If the above is the 8550 you are referring to (in the Loader Version), then yes, I can confirm it is fully compatible with SACD ripping. As the previous post suggests, whenever you can't get the drawer to open, you need to focus your efforts on the USB thumb drive and the AutoScript version itself. Make sure you have the correct version for Oppo and not Pioneer/Sony, make sure you did not go poking around inside the AutoScript itself and mess it up with any keystrokes. Make sure you didn't rename or move anything, and make sure you have only the correct and necessary file extensions. Then be sure you have a working USB thumb drive with no hidden partitions, properly formatted, with MBR as the partition scheme. If all else fails, ditch that USB thumb drive and try a different one, there have been isolated instances where members here solved everything just by using a different thumb drive. You are using a Mac? chichaz, JediJoker and BluRay444 2 1 Boycott HDtracks Boycott Lenbrook Boycott Warner Music Group Link to comment
Popular Post BluRay444 Posted August 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2018 2 hours ago, JRODRIGUEZ74740 said: Thanks for all comments. I have read that it is necessary to have in oppo the firmware the 8580 and not the 8550,which I have in my oppo 103. If this is confirmed that would be reason for not opening the tray of the oppo when inserting the usb. If anybody have done the ripping with the 8550 please let me know. i am going to resell the oppo 103 i did bought for ripping and try to find another one with the 8580, but looking for it in ebay I have not yet found any with that firmware First of all, '8550' or '8580' is not an Oppo BDP-103 Firmware version. There is a loader that loads the firmware that may have these numbers as part of it's version number, and the number may be a reference to the MediaTek MT85xx Single Chip Blu-ray player that is inside the Oppo. Second, are you referring to this post: In it the author appears to be saying that the 8550 does not work and an 8580 is what is necessary. Free information you get on the internet is worth everything you pay for it. I have a BDP-103 (US Version), and it's firmware loader version is: 6U1000 8550 1000 (The firmware main version is BDP10X-83-1226 which is the last US version released) My Oppo has been happily spitting out SACD Rips and ISOs for some time. I wouldn't get rid of your BDP-103 yet if I were you, chances are good that it works and you just haven't got everything set up right yet- it can be tricky the first time around, keep at it. MikeyFresh, JediJoker and Dick Darlington 1 2 Link to comment
MikeyFresh Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, BluRay444 said: I wouldn't get rid of your BDP-103 yet if I were you Boycott HDtracks Boycott Lenbrook Boycott Warner Music Group Link to comment
look&listen Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Watching thread long time, now join ranks of SACD rippers one week past! Recently bought very nice used Oppo BDP-103. Enjoy very nice improvement to 4K screen from DVD & BR. Then attempt SACD rip (DSOTM). Printed out instructions for Oppo 10x (linked from 1st thread page), collected software, set network & options, then start process, but had two little problems before success & start of rip. 1- tray not open with 1st (HFS?) USB insert. Copied AutoScript software to other (Ex-fat) drive & tray opened Ok. 2- iso2dsd initial IP address entry not work, even with correct Oppo IP numbers. Problem was missing port number (not mentioned in guide). Found examples (: 2002) online, but better if mentioned in setup guide(s) if anyone can edit text. Thx for all who contribute to helpful thread! Interesting to listen to SACD disc from 103 thru SPDIF, 88.2 PCM conversion (XLD) of DSF file & DSF file native. next try in quieter system. MikeyFresh 1 Link to comment
BluRay444 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, look&listen said: Watching thread long time, now join ranks of SACD rippers one week past! Recently bought very nice used BDP-103. Enjoy very nice improvement to 4K screen from DVD & BR. Then attempt SACD rip(DSOTM). Printed out instructions for Oppo 10x (linked from 1st thread page), collected software, set network & options. But had two little problems before success & start of rip. 1- tray not open with (HFS?) USB insert. Copied AutoScript software to other (Ex-fat) drive & tray opened Ok. 2- iso2dsd initial IP address entry not work, even with correct Oppo IP numbers. Problem was missing port number (not mentioned in guide). Found examples (: 2002) online, but better if mentioned in setup guide(s) if anyone can edit text. Thx for all who contribute to helpful thread! To think, I was going to give my Oppo BDP-103 to my nephew after I got an Oppo UDP-103... I ran across this thread by accident days before I was going to pack it up and ship it.... Ahhhhhhhhhh Link to comment
MikeyFresh Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, BluRay444 said: I got an Oppo UDP-103. You mean a UDP-203. Boycott HDtracks Boycott Lenbrook Boycott Warner Music Group Link to comment
BluRay444 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, MikeyFresh said: You mean a UDP-203. Indeed, you are correct sir! A UDP-203 it is! Link to comment
shicorp Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Would this also work with the Pioneer BDP-170-k or only with specific versions/firmware versions of the BDP-170? Link to comment
pl_svn Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, shicorp said: Would this also work with the Pioneer BDP-170-k -k, -s or -w just mean black, silver or white chichaz 1 Qnap HS-264 NAS (powered by an HD-Plex 100w LPS) > Cirrus7 Nimbini v2.5 Media Edition i7-8559U/32/512 running Roon ROCK (powered by a Keces P8 LPS) > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio NOS digital preamplifier > First Watt SIT 3 power amplifier (or Don Garber Fi "Y" 6922 tube preamplifier + Don Garber Fi "X" 2A3 SET power amplifier, both powered from an Alpha-Core BP-30 Isolated Symmetrical Power Transformer) > Klipsch Cornwall III headphones system: Cirrus 7 > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio > Pathos Aurium amplifier (powered by an UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS) > Focal Clear headphones Link to comment
shicorp Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, pl_svn said: -k, -s or -w just mean black, silver or white Great! Many thanks for the fast reply Link to comment
Popular Post Dick Darlington Posted August 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2018 21 hours ago, meli said: Did you try formatting your USB drive with the MBR partition style (not GPT)? The Oppo is fine with GPT. As long as the AutoScript volume is in indeed the *first* volume on the disk of course. JediJoker and greynolds 2 Link to comment
Dick Darlington Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 12:16 PM, BluRay444 said: Hey, I don't know the details, but it seems like if you're within 10 feet of the router you could just use a cable, unless there's a door threshold (or a wife threshold) standing in the way of progress! ☺️ LOL I just KNEW I was setting myself up for that inarguably correct observation! The truth is I after I moved the 103 in there but before I ran yet another cable around the room, which would have required replacing all the cables in the room (because I was out of fuchsia cables and if I don’t get them all from the same production lot the colours don’t match perfectly. I hate that!) So anyway, in a rare moment of inspiration I decided to try the WiFi adaptor just in case. And lo and behold and praise be to Baby Jesus and the Goddess of The Queer Eye ? for Colour Coordination ... it worked! ? MikeyFresh 1 Link to comment
BluRay444 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Fushia! Oh, boy... I was afraid it was something like that.... Link to comment
Popular Post Nexus3 Posted August 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 27, 2018 Good evening fellow DSD enthusiasts, after following this thread for about 2 years now, I managed to acquire a Pioneer BDP-170 last week. Doing some successful test rips on Win10 and Ubuntu (both amd64), I wondered whether this task could be done on more "exotic machines". To make a story short, may I present to you SACD Ripping on a tiny ARM based machine with great potential – the Raspberry Pi: 1. Download SACD Extract installation package for Raspbian (might also work for other Debian based system e.g. UbuntuMATE): sacd-extract+GUI_0.3.8_armhf.deb 2. Open a terminal and execute the following lines: mkdir "/${HOME}/DSD" cp "/usr/share/sacd-extract+GUI/sacd_extract" "/${HOME}/DSD" cp "/usr/share/sacd-extract+GUI/iso2dsd_gui.jar" "/${HOME}/DSD" 3. If you are a GUI type person, get yourself a decent Java runtime environment - I can recommend Liberica. 4. Start ISO2DSD application from the start menu and begin the ripping What's the best ripping / backup solution without the ability to play it back? Download DeaDBeeF for Raspbian installation package, compiled from the latest sources: deadbeef_0.7.2+devel~stretch-2018-08-25_armhf.deb Though deadbeef handles all types of uncompressed and compressed DSD (among many more formats), the sound output quality on Raspbian is far from perfect. For a true audiophile listening experience, I'd recommend the use of LibreELEC, basically a tinyOS wrapped around Kodi. If you use NOOBS, the installation of LibreELEC should be a piece of cake. Last but not least – USE THESE TOOLS AT YOUR OWN RISK! Please don't blame me if your disc backups got corrupted or your Pis have overheated ;-). Good night and happy testing! MikeyFresh, JediJoker and pl_svn 2 1 Link to comment
Popular Post mindset Posted August 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 27, 2018 7 hours ago, Nexus3 said: To make a story short, may I present to you SACD Ripping on a tiny ARM based machine with great potential – the Raspberry Pi: Try this patch if you didn't do so when you compiled sacd_extract for ARM. This will get you 3x speed up in .dsf generation (=DST decompression). https://github.com/setmind/sacd-ripper/commit/e9774ef2567bb22f12d7384c7fca0378c18878ba#diff-f5de4b920d6d9b60ec4a273a733fda5b Make sure you remove the CMakeFiles directory and rerun cmake . Despite this improvement, Raspberry Pi is way too slow so probably will not be very useful for anything that involves DST decompression which is very CPU intensive. MikeyFresh and Nexus3 2 Link to comment
Nexus3 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 12 hours ago, mindset said: Try this patch if you didn't do so when you compiled sacd_extract for ARM. This will get you 3x speed up in .dsf generation (=DST decompression). Hello mindset, thanks for your patch ? - I'll try to mix it into my next compile. The problem is much more basic though, as I ran into major obstacles while compiling the source. The first were the SSE instructions which I had to remove and the latter were memory allocation instructions for which no malloc.h was generated. Guess I got lucky and my dirty fix approach worked ?. Any idea whom of the developers, I could bother with this? 12 hours ago, mindset said: Despite this improvement, Raspberry Pi is way too slow so probably will not be very useful for anything that involves DST decompression which is very CPU intensive. Indeed you are correct, ripping performance on the Pi was 8-TIMES! slower compared to my 8-core AMD x64 CPU! But then again nobody uses a Raspberry Pi because of its raw power. On the playback side, I was really impressed with the sound quality output of LibreELEC. Without any issues 2ch DSD is outputted as a stereo 192kHz PCM signal via HDMI, and 6-channel DSDs get a 96kHz PCM 6ch treatment via HDMI. The sound experience is really superb. ?? Link to comment
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