Popular Post servoyguru Posted June 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2018 1 hour ago, MikeyFresh said: Outstanding, I thought you might try that before giving up on that unit and finding a replacement. Hopefully you'll get a good run out of it now! Indeed! Only problem now is that as it's so quick & easy to rip them (& the method was so cheap), I'm likely to buy lots more SACD's ? MikeyFresh, Siltech817 and tmtomh 1 2 Link to comment
MikeyFresh Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 2 hours ago, servoyguru said: Only problem now is that as it's so quick & easy to rip them (& the method was so cheap), I'm likely to buy lots more SACD's ? I too have that problem, and it's not under control, quite the opposite actually. Siltech817 1 Boycott HDtracks Boycott Lenbrook Boycott Warner Music Group Link to comment
Popular Post pl_svn Posted June 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2018 go figure: never bought a single SACD before finding out about this ripping method and... a Pioneer BDP-170 ? Siltech817 and MikeyFresh 1 1 Qnap HS-264 NAS (powered by an HD-Plex 100w LPS) > Cirrus7 Nimbini v2.5 Media Edition i7-8559U/32/512 running Roon ROCK (powered by a Keces P8 LPS) > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio NOS digital preamplifier > First Watt SIT 3 power amplifier (or Don Garber Fi "Y" 6922 tube preamplifier + Don Garber Fi "X" 2A3 SET power amplifier, both powered from an Alpha-Core BP-30 Isolated Symmetrical Power Transformer) > Klipsch Cornwall III headphones system: Cirrus 7 > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio > Pathos Aurium amplifier (powered by an UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS) > Focal Clear headphones Link to comment
Deyorew Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I have a question about scratched sacds. I have a disc that iTunes rips but stutters, XLD won’t complete the ripping process due to errors (both are the redbook layer of course) but my sacd layer iso ripped fine. is it possible that it ripped the iso but the data is compromised? Or if it completes the rip then it is a good rip? I was curious about errors in ripping.... anyone have experience with this? since there doesn’t seem to be an accurate DB like there is for redbook, so how do I know I have an error free rip? JediJoker 1 Samsung 2TB SSD external drive > Oppo 205 USB in > McIntosh C45 > Proceed AMP5 > Mirage HDT Speakers > Velodyne HGS15 Sub // Nordost Blue Heaven Cables, PS Audio Quintet, OWC 2TB Mercury Elite Pro Firewire Link to comment
Phthalocyanine Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Deyorew said: since there doesn’t seem to be an accurate DB like there is for redbook, so how do I know I have an error free rip? The old-fashioned way -- play it in whatever way you were intending to do -- play the .iso with J. River or burn a SACD-R and play it on your SACD-R capable BD player or convert it to .dsf files and play them on your .dsf compatible media player. If you don't hear any problems you have a successful rip. In all the reports of SACD ripping on this thread I can not think of an instance where a successful rip was reported to have any defects later. JediJoker 1 Link to comment
Deyorew Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Good enough for me. I was was just surprised that my (rather rare) sacd ripped successfully when the cd layers didn’t. Very happy too! Samsung 2TB SSD external drive > Oppo 205 USB in > McIntosh C45 > Proceed AMP5 > Mirage HDT Speakers > Velodyne HGS15 Sub // Nordost Blue Heaven Cables, PS Audio Quintet, OWC 2TB Mercury Elite Pro Firewire Link to comment
servoyguru Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 9 hours ago, MikeyFresh said: I too have that problem, and it's not under control, quite the opposite actually. ? Link to comment
tmtomh Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 11 hours ago, Deyorew said: I have a question about scratched sacds. I have a disc that iTunes rips but stutters, XLD won’t complete the ripping process due to errors (both are the redbook layer of course) but my sacd layer iso ripped fine. is it possible that it ripped the iso but the data is compromised? Or if it completes the rip then it is a good rip? I was curious about errors in ripping.... anyone have experience with this? since there doesn’t seem to be an accurate DB like there is for redbook, so how do I know I have an error free rip? Could be the rip has errors in it. But also keep in mind that the SACD data is in a different layer, read at a different focal length. So scratches and scuffs on the disc will have different levels of visibility and cause different degrees of problems when reading each layer. So a disc that has trouble being read on one layer, might rip okay on the other. Link to comment
wanthalf Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 12 hours ago, Deyorew said: I have a question about scratched sacds. I have a disc that iTunes rips but stutters, XLD won’t complete the ripping process due to errors (both are the redbook layer of course) but my sacd layer iso ripped fine. This has been discussed here a short time ago. Unlike CDDA, the SACD layer should contain a (more or less "regular") filesystem with much more robust error correction mechanisms. The filesystem image should either be OK and accurate, or completly broken. That is the theory at least. I suppose the sacd_extract verifies and/or corrects the image it reads, but I might be wrong... Link to comment
mindset Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 48 minutes ago, wanthalf said: This has been discussed here a short time ago. Unlike CDDA, the SACD layer should contain a (more or less "regular") filesystem with much more robust error correction mechanisms. The filesystem image should either be OK and accurate, or completly broken. That is the theory at least. I suppose the sacd_extract verifies and/or corrects the image it reads, but I might be wrong... File system itself typically doesn't contribute much of data integrity. It is the underlying error detection/correction scheme that is ensuring data integrity. Also, though some SACD discs have optional UDF, there are many SACDs without UDF, which means no file system. All SACDs do have a mandatory TOC, which is not a file system, and this is the one that players rely on to find tacks and their lengths in addition to text information such as album names and track names. In the audio data section of the disc, compressed audio data of the entire album is just linearly recorded without any discontinuity or fragmentation. I learned these when I was going through sacd_extract source codes for some enhancements. MikeyFresh 1 Link to comment
servoyguru Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Does anyone know why my 'Jeff Wayne's The War Of The Worlds' has no disc or track info for the SACD layers when using sacd_extract? Every other disc I have put in (that is now recognised ? ), has all the correct info for the ISO, but neither of these two discs?? (They don't even appear correctly when using the Sony BDP UI which even shows CD's correctly...) Thanks Link to comment
Vincent Neo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, servoyguru said: Does anyone know why my 'Jeff Wayne's The War Of The Worlds' has no disc or track info for the SACD layers when using sacd_extract? I personally have some SACDs without any disc info. I remembered it was those Hong Kong audio show’s SACDs I guess it’s safe to presume that some SACDs are like that? Link to comment
Tipo450s Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I've had several SACD rips without any track info.....just the nature of the beast.....I just used Mp3Tag to grab the tags off the Internet. Link to comment
servoyguru Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Vincent Neo said: I personally have some SACDs without any disc info. I remembered it was those Hong Kong audio show’s SACDs I guess it’s safe to presume that some SACDs are like that? Oh well... Guess I will have to manually enter all the data Link to comment
servoyguru Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Tipo450s said: I've had several SACD rips without any track info.....just the nature of the beast.....I just used Mp3Tag to grab the tags off the Internet. ...or try & use this (although I use a Mac, not Windows...) Thx Link to comment
Tipo450s Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 https://www.mp3tag.de/en/mac-osx.html Link to comment
servoyguru Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Tipo450s said: https://www.mp3tag.de/en/mac-osx.html Thanks! (I spotted that after I made my post which was based on Google search, not visiting site...) Link to comment
Popular Post forester Posted July 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2018 On 6/23/2018 at 10:22 PM, Phthalocyanine said: The old-fashioned way -- play it in whatever way you were intending to do -- play the .iso with J. River or burn a SACD-R and play it on your SACD-R capable BD player or convert it to .dsf files and play them on your .dsf compatible media player. If you don't hear any problems you have a successful rip. In all the reports of SACD ripping on this thread I can not think of an instance where a successful rip was reported to have any defects later. I reported audio glitches in my post of 10/18/2016: "I listen to each ISO after it has been ripped. So far, after a couple dozen rips, I have had 2 repeatable audio "clicks" with a lot of high-frequency energy. I re-ripped both SACDs and the clicks were gone. This process seems to be less than perfect, so ultimately we must listen to the rips before archiving them." JediJoker and tmtomh 2 Link to comment
tmtomh Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 @forester you make a very good point - there's no error-checking/secure-ripping for SACD rips, and while the majority of rips are fine, occasionally glitches crop up. JediJoker 1 Link to comment
forester Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Multi-channel on HDMI input of Oppo 203 or 205 Has anyone else tried to get multi-channel audio through the HDMI input of the Oppo UHD-205? When I play my ripped ISO files on my Lenovo Yoga 700 notebook, Foobar says it is outputting 5-channel PCM 88.2k just as I told it to, but both info screens on the 205 say it is getting only stereo 48k. I tried hanging an HDMI audio de-embedder on the audio-only HDMI output of the 205, but got the same result. The Oppo manual says the HDMI input will accept up to 8-channel 192kHz audio. So is this an EDID handshake issue? Do I need to connect a multi-channel HDMI sink (like a receiver or pre-pro) to one of the 205's HDMI outputs in order to get this to work properly? Or is it a limitation of the Lenovo's HDMI output? Link to comment
litep Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Dear moderators I have a Sony BDP-S470 tried loading the script in a FAT32 (FAT16) 4gb thumbdrive and changing the autoscript to telnetd instead of inetd still no go to connect. I am on the same network - i can ping the ip addr of the player and there was a response unable to telnet in though would appreciate any advise pls thanks Link to comment
Phthalocyanine Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 2 hours ago, litep said: I have a Sony BDP-S470 Sorry this model does not work with the script, only 390, 490, 590, 5100 and their variants. JediJoker 1 Link to comment
mikegee2 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I am using an OPPO 103 and the Sonore GUI on my Mac. I have been ripping my sacd library for 2 weeks now and i have 3 or 4 discs that have the diacritical marks such as the umlaut mentioned that the software balks on ripping. I have seen some talk about editing the sacd_ext file to replace the iso file name with something without those marks. I have opened said file with mac’s text edit and cannot see where to make changes. Am I missing something? can someone give me specific instructions as to how to edit the file to change the iso file name to get rid of the marks and allow the rip to go through? sorry for being wordy. thanks MikeGee JediJoker 1 Link to comment
Phthalocyanine Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 @mikegee2 There is a method of specifying the .iso name when using the command line and telnet to rip locally to a USB drive. But I do not know how to do that with the Sonore GUI and the server method. JediJoker 1 Link to comment
Popular Post mindset Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 5 hours ago, mikegee2 said: I am using an OPPO 103 and the Sonore GUI on my Mac. I have been ripping my sacd library for 2 weeks now and i have 3 or 4 discs that have the diacritical marks such as the umlaut mentioned that the software balks on ripping. I have seen some talk about editing the sacd_ext file to replace the iso file name with something without those marks. I have opened said file with mac’s text edit and cannot see where to make changes. Am I missing something? can someone give me specific instructions as to how to edit the file to change the iso file name to get rid of the marks and allow the rip to go through? As have been discussed so many times in this thread, Sonore's GUI is just a graphical frontend for sacd_extract, and specifying output .iso file name is probably beyond Sonore GUI's capacity. In that case you need to manually run sacd_extract , which should be included in Sonore's package, from a terminal. You do not need to edit sacd_extract to do this. (In fact, it is a binary program you normally do not want to edit.) The official instruction for using sacd_extract is at https://github.com/sacd-ripper/sacd-ripper (scroll down to SACD Ripper/Extract Usage Instructions). You should be able to achieve what you want to do with a command like this in the directory sacd_extract resides: ./sacd_extract -i192.168.1.123:2002 -I output This should yield output.iso In my opinion, for those who rip SACDs often, running sacd_extract from a terminal is more convenient and flexible than using Sonore's GUI. The manual command can be aliased to a single short command). pl_svn, JediJoker and chichaz 2 1 Link to comment
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