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SACD Ripping using an Oppo or Pioneer? Yes, it's true!


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Hello everyone,

 

Now that I'm able to back-up my (store bought) SACD's to .ISO files, where's an appropriate place on the forum to discuss creating 'continuous' DSF files?

 

 

Many thanks

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Then extract to DFF edit master (an option in Sonore's ISO2DSD GUI) and then convert to DSF using Jussi's DFF2DSF (although there is less reason to go to DSF since you are not tagging tracks).

Sonore APPS - ISO2DSD

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I suppose I could use Sonore's 'DSDDIFF Edit Master' mode along with it's (or my own) Cue file for use with my Oppo BDP-103 player.

 

I'll give it a go and report back ;)

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Well I've hit a stumbling block. My Oppo has no problems playing the 2 channel .dsf tracks that Sonore creates. But it does not seem to like the 2 channel .dff files that Sonore creates!

 

Has anyone else experienced this playback behavior on their Oppos?

 

Good luck with that. OPPOs are very picky about cue sheets.

I can't say I've had too much of a problem with this. I've backed-up all my audio CD to Flac with Cue sheets and they work okay ;)

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IIRC, OPPO is unable to play DST .dff tracks. So you'll need to check "Convert DST to DSD" before pushing "Execute" button.
Thanks tymoxa,

 

This makes sense as the .dst file sizes are much the same as the .dsf file sizes. Sorry for being such a newbie. I'm sure I'll get the hang of it soon.

 

I'm just so pleased that I'm finally able to back-up and store my SACD's....

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Thanks everyone... "Everything is going extremely well" I've already backed-up several of my SACD's to DVD-R and ripped them to .dff files.

 

One thing that I do find surprising are the sizes of extracted .dff files, they are huge compared to the .ISO.

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Speaking as somebody who's been backing-up their SACD's using the 'AutoScript' folder and 'Sonore iso2dvd' method since Aug 2016, it's  got me wondering....

 

Might it be technically possible for other exploits to be created for backing-up say, regular audio CD's, DVD-A's, movie DVD's or even Blu-ray discs?

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49 minutes ago, wanthalf said:

You don't need any exploit for those. Just a BluRay drive attached to your computer....

 

Personally... I'm already doing this. I'm just interested to know if it's "technically" possible to extract data from other types of discs too?!

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15 hours ago, Phthalocyanine said:

@SeeMoreDigital

Yes it is possible.  On a S590 in which you have root control, you can use the Linux commands to copy files from a DVD or BD in the optical drive to a USB drive .  I've done it as an experiment.

 

But here's the problem and why it is no big deal.  For copy-protected discs You're just copying encrypted data.  To rip these discs in the sense of getting useful data you need a de-encryption program.  That's what SACD_extract is doing.  It's not just copying the data, it is de-encrypting it....   

 

Hi @Phthalocyanine

 

Many thanks for the detailed response. Even though there are softwares available for decrypting other disc formats, it sounds like a lot of effort.

 

Cheers

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On 5/13/2019 at 9:09 AM, MeiSh5am said:

The size of the stick has nothing to do with it. It's all about the partitions and the file system.....

Agreed.

 

And for anybody who knows about these things. If there were changes made to the software/scripts, could it be possible to save an entire SACD back-up as an .iso file directly to an 8GB+ USB stick? ie: without having to network the player to a computer ;)

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23 hours ago, MikeyFresh said:

 

Yes it is already a reality, using the appropriate AutoRip script for your Blu-ray player.

 

18 hours ago, Nexus3 said:

 

 

Well your wish is coming true 😎

 

The special script type is called AutoRip - just watch this short but neat video demonstration (by @MikeyFresh).

 

Thankfully @Dick Darlington, hosted all of the AutoRip scripts here.

If you want to know which script fits what player model - use this overview.

 

Happy AutoRipping!

 

Wow... Many thanks for the information you guys... Okay then, "I'm going to give it a go, with my trusty Oppo..."

 

Nice one 😀

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5 hours ago, pl_svn said:

just tried AutoRip (A4) using an exFAT formatted usb stick with a Pioneer BDP-170 and... it doesn't work :(

I mean... exFAT doesn't work (FAT32 does) ;)

 

As far as I know the OPPO's are the only hardware media players that support USB connected HDD's formatted using the exFAT file system...

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