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AOb36: SUCCESSFUL:
OS: Audio PC: Windows Server 2019 Standard Core
DAC/DDC: T+A DAC 8 DSD
Driver/Version: T+A USB Audio USB Driver / 1.0.62.0
Need to press F8: NO
Player: HQPlayer 3.25.3
KS working: YES
WASAPI working: YES
Needed HD Audio Driver: NO
 

PS:
Control "PC": Mac OS 10.14.3 / Roon 1.6 (build 401)
 

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1 hour ago, Gato said:

AOb36:
OS: Audio PC: Windows Server 2016 Standard Core
DAC/DDC: T+A DAC 8 DSD
Driver/Version: T+A USB Audio USB Driver / 1.0.62.0
Need to press F8: YES
Player: HQPlayer 3.25.3
KS working: YES
WASAPI working: NO
ASIO working: YES
Needed HD Audio Driver: NO
 
No more error when running AO Setup


PS:
Control "PC": Mac OS 10.14.3 / Roon 1.6 (build 401)

ERRATUM: Because I was working on Windows 2016 but I left by mistake the "Windows 2012 R2" media on the USB key, sorry 🤭

Now, I redo it the right way, so:

AOb36: SUCCESSFUL
OS: Audio PC: Windows Server 2016 Standard Core
DAC/DDC: T+A DAC 8 DSD
Driver/Version: T+A USB Audio USB Driver / 1.0.62.0
Need to press F8: NO
Player: HQPlayer 3.25.3
KS working: YES
WASAPI working: YES
Needed HD Audio Driver: NO
 
No more error when running AO Setup

PS:
Control "PC": Mac OS 10.14.3 / Roon 1.6 (build 401)
 

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Phil, I updated from B34 to B36...you did it again. What an increase in speed and density to the sound. Slope of dynamics and attack have improved a lot. Dynamic impulses in electronic music (e.g. Trentemöller) are so aggressively fast on the D200...it's scary...if you don't know the song you're twitching and dodging in your chair before the synths would eventually hit you 😉

Very, very nice. I can't wait for B36 to settle a bit and become more of an ease over the next days of playing.

 

One drawback after installation of B36 on single PC/WS2019/gui (shell replaced) the WiFi (just for controling app) had some glitches (no internet). Had to be rebooted several times and JPlayFemto service was down (not booting). I'd to reinstall JPlayFemto once and reset the UPNP app (HiFi Cast). After that everything was working as normal.

 

AOb36: SUCCESSFUL
OS: Single Audio PC: Windows Server 2019 Essentials (yet) GUI Shell replaced
DAC/DDC: Matrix Audio X-SPDIF 2 , Devialet D200
Driver/Version: latest original Matrix Audio XMOS
Need to press F8: NO
Player: JPlayFemto
KS working: YES (stable at '1000Hz', Hibernate 'On' in JPlaySettings)
WASAPI working: N/A
Needed HD Audio Driver: NO

 

 

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Wanting to up upgrade from 34 to 36. 

I use shell replacement, and need the service tool, to change to the gui.

But when I run “st” task, it only tells, that there is an Update, and service tool screen quickly closes again. 

Im a bit Stuck here it seems. 

 

Supermicro X10SBA MB, Hynix 2x4GB Ram, Supermicro Satadom for the oss, PPA V2 Pci-usb, HDPlex Linear 200w, HDPlex 400w atx, Audiowind A-270 regulator 5v to power Satadom oss. MS-HPULN to power the ecu.

Silverstone chassis. Server 2019. AO Beta 3.0. JPlay 7. Femto server and streamer, Bubble upnp. Arcam Irdac w.SBooster botw. Wyred4sound RUR. w. diy Linear/ Audiowind A-270 regulator. Uptone USB link to DAC (No 5v). Audiocadabra Optimus usb cable.

Voltcraft fps_1132 lpsu Powering the fibernet box, and switch.. Dk Design mk II w.Siemens CCA tubes.Silver fuses. B&W 802 III Matrix w.Jensen/Duelund crossover part. Sonic Design damping feed.Vincent power cables,powerstrib w.syncro box.Tara labs reference biwire speaker cable, Diy interconnect w.Eichmann bullet plugs.Audiomagic Hepta rack w.Solid tech Isoclear isolation feet.

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6 minutes ago, Lauritsvd said:

 

Wanting to up upgrade from 34 to 36. 

I use shell replacement, and need the service tool, to change to the gui.

But when I run “st” task, it only tells, that there is an Update, and service tool screen quickly closes again. 

Im a bit Stuck here it seems. 

 

You need to go the beta portal and download B36 and the copy the AO files  to a Thumb drive and run setup.exe.  It will update AO to B36 then ST will work as  expected.

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19 minutes ago, magicknow said:

You need to go the beta portal and download B36 and the copy the AO files  to a Thumb drive and run setup.exe.  It will update AO to B36 then ST will work as  expected.

Thank You 👍😀

Supermicro X10SBA MB, Hynix 2x4GB Ram, Supermicro Satadom for the oss, PPA V2 Pci-usb, HDPlex Linear 200w, HDPlex 400w atx, Audiowind A-270 regulator 5v to power Satadom oss. MS-HPULN to power the ecu.

Silverstone chassis. Server 2019. AO Beta 3.0. JPlay 7. Femto server and streamer, Bubble upnp. Arcam Irdac w.SBooster botw. Wyred4sound RUR. w. diy Linear/ Audiowind A-270 regulator. Uptone USB link to DAC (No 5v). Audiocadabra Optimus usb cable.

Voltcraft fps_1132 lpsu Powering the fibernet box, and switch.. Dk Design mk II w.Siemens CCA tubes.Silver fuses. B&W 802 III Matrix w.Jensen/Duelund crossover part. Sonic Design damping feed.Vincent power cables,powerstrib w.syncro box.Tara labs reference biwire speaker cable, Diy interconnect w.Eichmann bullet plugs.Audiomagic Hepta rack w.Solid tech Isoclear isolation feet.

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15 hours ago, Gato said:

AOb36:
OS: Audio PC: Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard Core
DAC/DDC: T+A DAC 8 DSD
Driver/Version: T+A USB Audio USB Driver / 1.0.62.0
Need to press F8: NO
Player: HQPlayer 3.25.3
KS working: YES
WASAPI working: NO
ASIO working: YES
Needed HD Audio Driver: NO
 

PS:
Control "PC": Mac OS 10.14.3 / Roon 1.6 (build 401)

 

Sadly no WASAPI for 2012 R2, this is known :(

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On 3/1/2019 at 9:56 AM, magicknow said:

I upgraded to Beta 36 with no issue.  There is a very significant increase in SQ

@magicknow Did you do a fresh install from scratch or just the AO?

Music Source: NAS[Synology], Qobuz, Tidal

Music Player: Roonserver[Mac mini]

Control PC: squeeze2upnp, fb2k, dirac, Jplay Femto, Fidelizer, AO(4D), WS2019 GUI, Mac mini w/HDPlex 200W

Audio PC: Jplay Femto(KS/1000hz), Fidelizer, AO(4D), WS2019 core, i7 w/HDPlex 200W

DDC: Iso Regen w/LPS1.2, Acousence afi+USB (USB to S/PDIF) w/Li-ion battery PS

DAC: Yggdrasil Analog 2

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Have now sufficient skills to get through full implementation although not to a successful outcome:

OS: Windows 2019 Standard Core

DAC: EMM-Meitner DAC 2

Driver: Meitner 2.0 ASIO

F8: Not needed

Player: JRiver x64 (but will not fully load)

KS: Yes, but not used

AO -Wasapi: Loaded successfully

HD: Audio driver not used

 

Have tried numerous full  re-installs but simply cannot get JRiver beyond hourglass, inactive.

Now thinking whether to drop back to 2019 Standard (Desktop) which allowed JRiver to run with great SQ but without AO, or move to JPlay Femto, Bubble UPnP and Minimsever plus AO??  Time will tell.... Have not tried AOb36.

 

Ron

 

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1 hour ago, magicknow said:

I just ran the AO setup.exe

Good to know. Thanks. 

Music Source: NAS[Synology], Qobuz, Tidal

Music Player: Roonserver[Mac mini]

Control PC: squeeze2upnp, fb2k, dirac, Jplay Femto, Fidelizer, AO(4D), WS2019 GUI, Mac mini w/HDPlex 200W

Audio PC: Jplay Femto(KS/1000hz), Fidelizer, AO(4D), WS2019 core, i7 w/HDPlex 200W

DDC: Iso Regen w/LPS1.2, Acousence afi+USB (USB to S/PDIF) w/Li-ion battery PS

DAC: Yggdrasil Analog 2

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10 hours ago, winmore said:

Have now sufficient skills to get through full implementation although not to a successful outcome:

OS: Windows 2019 Standard Core

DAC: EMM-Meitner DAC 2

Driver: Meitner 2.0 ASIO

F8: Not needed

Player: JRiver x64 (but will not fully load)

KS: Yes, but not used

AO -Wasapi: Loaded successfully

HD: Audio driver not used

 

Have tried numerous full  re-installs but simply cannot get JRiver beyond hourglass, inactive.

Now thinking whether to drop back to 2019 Standard (Desktop) which allowed JRiver to run with great SQ but without AO, or move to JPlay Femto, Bubble UPnP and Minimsever plus AO??  Time will tell.... Have not tried AOb36.

 

Ron

 

i have the same issue

 

Using JPLay Femto Player and JPlay Femto Server with Bubble UPnP  is better SQ than JRiver but of course with out the additional features of JRiver

 

I also Run  Roon  with the JPLay ASIO driver,  the SQ of the Roon setup is not as good as JRiver  with JPlay ASIO (when  I can get it to play)

 

I have not tried JPlay Femto with Miniserver yet,  Marcin recommends using JPlay Femto Server for best SQ.

 

Phil  i am a bit confused,  if this type of discussion is  appropriate for AO Beta thread?

 

Also the issues with getting JRiver  to run with Server Core,  is this something that you can  fix with AO?

 

magicknow

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I was responding to Phil's requests concerning DAC used, wasapi etc and noting I am unable to get JRiver to work with AO.  I will move to the general Server 2019 forum for comments on alternatives.  Sorry to offend guidelines for this forum.

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I have AOb36 on a new build of my Jplay Femto Audiopc, win 2019 standard core, ramdisk.

I had some problems getting the KS and the driver set up but don't know what caused it. Nothing worked until I started again on a fresh OS install. Not a big deal as I had a backup copy of the clean os on vhd. 

 

OS: Windows 2019 Standard Core

DAC: PS Audio Directstream dac

Driver: PS Audio ASIO

F8: Not needed

Player: Jplay Femto 2PC

KS: Yes

AO -Wasapi: did not try to install

HD Audio Controller: not used

 

I haven't had time for a proper listen and it was sounding great with b35 anyway.

 

@Herman17 I have DSD128 playing on my PS Audio Directstream dac with KS and hibernate. I cant find a DSD256 track to test although I have a couple somewhere.

 

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New config and clean install:

 

OS:  Win 2019 standard (desktop)

DAC:  EMM - Meitner DA2 Reference

Driver:  USB DAC with XMOS xCore U8 output (KS)

F8:  Not needed

Player:  JRiver x64

KS:  Yes

AO - wasapi: did not install (have Meitner DAC 2.0 (Wasapi) driver available in JRiver Options but I think KS better SQ in my system.)

HD audio controller:  No

 

With AOb36 very impressive sound. 

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On 3/2/2019 at 6:01 PM, magicknow said:

i have the same issue

 

Using JPLay Femto Player and JPlay Femto Server with Bubble UPnP  is better SQ than JRiver but of course with out the additional features of JRiver

 

I also Run  Roon  with the JPLay ASIO driver,  the SQ of the Roon setup is not as good as JRiver  with JPlay ASIO (when  I can get it to play)

 

I have not tried JPlay Femto with Miniserver yet,  Marcin recommends using JPlay Femto Server for best SQ.

 

Phil  i am a bit confused,  if this type of discussion is  appropriate for AO Beta thread?

 

Also the issues with getting JRiver  to run with Server Core,  is this something that you can  fix with AO?

 

magicknow

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe a separate thread would be better

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8 minutes ago, Anto said:

Simple curiosity... 😊
How much longer is it, roughly... To the release of the official version 3.0
Thank you
Anto

i might start with another question first :)

 

What is your (i mean all beta testers) opinion about AO 3.00 in its current form (beta 36)? How do you like the new features? What about sound quality? speed and stability? Please all beta tester answer this question for me, this will help me get a sense of it all.

 

Thanks,

Phil

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Hi all, for me the current version i.e. beta 36 is solid as a rock, I keep the secondary impiantino turned on even for several days!
Another very important thing and that Phil has solved I think almost 100% of the problems of using any DAC on the market!
Last thing, the sound quality;
I have not yet managed to test it on the main plant, as it has no network card, but I am fully sure that it will not disappoint me!!!
On the secondary system is very good!
Greetings
Anto 😊

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28 minutes ago, ingemar said:

Hi Phil.

In my system it can't be any better,the best "computer"sound ever!!Thanks for your efforts Phil!!

 

Agreed totally regarding SQ.  Speed (Beta 36) is a bit slower than prior Betas probably due to more behind the scene checkings, stability is near perfect, new features are near perfect.  No complaints.  Only one remained wish:  one key stroke optimization, similar to AO -e (express) option but custom to invidual user's selection.  Similar to Canon's C1 and C2 buttons.  That would be slick.

 

Overall, this AO3 incarnation is better than ever.  Kudos to Phil for his brilliant work, conquering the WS2019, bringing us a not only stable working environment featuring all three major drivers (ASIO, WASAPI, KS), new features, but the best ever SQ.

WS2019 Datacenter Core, dualPC, JPLAY Femto, AO3, Fidelizer Pro 8.6, MC46, BubbleUPnP.

 

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