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Windows 10 supports Kernel-Streaming "out of the box", thats why this option of AO is never displayed on Windows 10.


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Thanks Phil. Yes. It's back. Just that after I performed strip down Windows 10, it was gone.

 

 

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Hi

 

the strip down feature does not remove Kernel-Streaming.

 

But happy to read its working now :-)


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Oh! I don't know what causes it then. I'm a new AO user and it's my first run today. But all is good now except one tiny curious question. Why does the window explorer pop up at start up?

 

 

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I have the same situation with the Win 10 Explorer when I start my system. This problem starts when you do a Shell Replacement and than you Restore The Default Shell with the Service Tool. Maybe Phil can solve this problem. ;)

I use AO 2.0!

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Hi Phil, I've just tested Win Server 2016 TP5 with and without GUI with AO 2.10 beta 3.

I've found a problem without GUI.

I'm using a command line audio player that uses ASIO and MMCSS, no problem with GUI but without GUI I have that message error:

"

ErrorMessage :

-----------------------------------------

Failed to enable MMCSS (error code=1060).

Failed to enable MMCSS (error code=1060).

Failed to enable MMCSS (error code=1060).

Failed to enable MMCSS (error code=1060).

[0]

"

 

So it seems to me that MMCSS is not really enabled without GUI (while works flawlessy, for example, in Windows Server 2012 R2 core mode).

Have you tried MMCSS in Windows Server 2016 TP5 without GUI?

Thanks.

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Hi

 

The MMCSS feature has not yet been upgraded for Server 2016. Currently its not supposed to work, but should later on.

 

Best,

Phil


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I have the same situation with the Win 10 Explorer when I start my system. This problem starts when you do a Shell Replacement and than you Restore The Default Shell with the Service Tool. Maybe Phil can solve this problem. ;)

I use AO 2.0!

 

If you google "Windows Explorer starts after logon" you will get 26,8 million hits. Microsoft has to fix this :(


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Hi

 

The MMCSS feature has not yet been upgraded for Server 2016. Currently its not supposed to work, but should later on.

 

Best,

Phil

 

Ok, so I'm waiting for future release.

Thanks.

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This is a very nice and interesting picture we can see here :)

 

It's Windows Server 2016 RTM (Build 10.0.14393) in Core Mode. Windows Audio Service & Audio Endpoint Builder are running, Kernel-Streaming is running as well. Kernel-Streaming actually also works, WASAPI does not (yet). We can see Foobar2000 playing a song via Kernel-Streaming... Sounding wonderful by the way! :)

 

milestone.jpg

That's what I call a MILESTONE!

 

....to be continued :)


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Phil,

 

sounds like the trick worked ;) I told you that you could do it...

 

Well done my friend!

 

Thomas


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Hi Phil,

 

I purchased the AO 2.0 upgrade today for my Win 10 PC used to up-sample tracks to DSD512. First I had a listen without AO. Next I ran AO with HQplayer as shell. Wow, the SQ difference is stunning!

 

Well done!

 

Tomorrow, my goal is to figure out how best to start Roon server at boot along with HQplayer.

 

While I know how to manually tune a Windows PC for audio, it takes days. With AO 2.0 the process was done in a few minutes. Windows stripping is yet another great convenience, and the resulting Windows ram footprint is much smaller and sounds better.

 

The new user guide is great with lots of SQ tweaking nuggets that I would never have known about with this resource.

 

Anyway thanks again for AO 2.0 and it's official Win 10 support. Anyone using Windows 10 for audio would be crazy not to try it.

 

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Hi Phil,

 

Your 'Milestone' picture above is certainly a terrific step forward. Dare I hope that we may get a shell replacement option for Upplay? Or is there a diy solution for 'general' shell replacement. 2.10, current release is really great and stable in my system using Minimserver, Jplay and Upplay in GUI mode. Now, for the next step???

Cheers,

 

Ron

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Hi Phil,

 

does the screenshot suggests that we will be able to run Roonserver + HQPlayer in core mode with server2016?


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Hi Phil,

 

Your 'Milestone' picture above is certainly a terrific step forward. Dare I hope that we may get a shell replacement option for Upplay? Or is there a diy solution for 'general' shell replacement. 2.10, current release is really great and stable in my system using Minimserver, Jplay and Upplay in GUI mode. Now, for the next step???

Cheers,

 

Ron

 

hi Ron

 

does upplay work in Core and Minimal-Server Mode? If so, what is the full path incl. the executable?

 

best,

Phil


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Hi Phil,

 

does the screenshot suggests that we will be able to run Roonserver + HQPlayer in core mode with server2016?

 

hi

 

no. Why do you assume that?

 

best,

Phil


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Hi Phil,

I wasn't assuming, just hoping :-)

Is there a chance that this could be a working scenario at some point?

 

I'm planning to upgrade from 2012 to 2016 once it's available.


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For us that we are using other media players than those already available as a shell replacement, will there be a possibility to use them as shell? I am using MUSIChi Suite and will not swap it for anything else....

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hi Ron

 

does upplay work in Core and Minimal-Server Mode? If so, what is the full path incl. the executable?

 

best,

Phil

 

 

Thanks Phil. Hmm, my Windows 2012 Server skills may not be up to a full response, but here goes. I think the full path is Upplay: a Qt UPnP audio Control Point -- upplaysetup-1.2.4-w1.exe. I am using upplay and jplay so I am reliant on kernel streaming and as I understand the current development of AO 2.10, you have kernel streaming in core working in Win Server 2016 ('Milestone') but not in 2012 Server. So I doubt Upplay will work in core on Server 2012. The only way I know to set a renderer in Minimal-Server mode is through shell replacement and that is what I am trying to achieve. So I do not know about Upplay in M-S mode.

 

Maybe someone with more computer skills and motivation to try Upplay can chime in.

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with path i ment something like "C:\Program Files\Upplay\upplay.exe"

 

Making Kernel-Streaming work in Core Mode on Server 2012 (not 2012 R2) actually was the "birth" of the AudiophileOptimizer, indeed we have KS on 2012, 2012 R2 and now with AO 2.10 b4 also on Windows Server 2016 RTM.

 

Best,

Phil


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Hi

 

with path i ment something like "C:\Program Files\Upplay\upplay.exe"

 

Making Kernel-Streaming work in Core Mode on Server 2012 (not 2012 R2) actually was the "birth" of the AudiophileOptimizer, indeed we have KS on 2012, 2012 R2 and now with AO 2.10 b4 also on Windows Server 2016 RTM.

 

Best,

Phil

 

Sorry Phil. Path is C:\Program Files (x86)\Upplay\upplay.exe I guess then that Upplay should work in Core mode.

Cheers and thank you for your patience.

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Not to 'guess', I am now planning to read the manual and beyond in order to proceed from the command prompt in core mode to hopefully locate and run Upplay.

Patience as in all things!

Cheers,

 

Ron

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Not to 'guess', I am now planning to read the manual and beyond in order to proceed from the command prompt in core mode to hopefully locate and run Upplay.

Patience as in all things!

Cheers,

 

Ron

Aha - the small light bulb is alight. So, yes Upplay can run by kernel streaming in core mode. My skills though will not get me to:

'(u) - Set Upplay as shell replacement'. My clumsy use of syntax needs the elegant refinement Phil can add.

But, I now appreciate your initial response setting me on the path to better understand what is "under the hood" in AO. Thanks, mate!

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