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1 hour ago, mordante said:

I rip my CDs to my NAS and have some downloads as well. But I'm not sure what the best way is to make a back-up.  There are cloud storage options. But most are based in the US but I don't trust US based network storage. I'd prefer a Dutch or at least EU facility.

 

But maybe just buying a external HDD and storing it at a friends place is safer and easier compare to web/cloud storage.

 

I have a fire and water proof NAS box.  That used to be all I did.  Now my Brother and I have identical boxes and share space on each others for our own off site backups.


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4 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

I have a fire and water proof NAS box.  That used to be all I did.  Now my Brother and I have identical boxes and share space on each others for our own off site backups.

 

Hi AudioDoctor,

What system/software do you use to do this synchronization?

 

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40 minutes ago, Jud said:

 

Blockchain-based cryptocurrencies have been hacked (the most famous probably being the one that led to the Ethereum fork), but I would be interested to see what the incorporation of blockchain would do for storage security.

 

It actually seems to me better to rely on the expertise of folks who know more than I do in the network security sphere.

Jud all I back up are my audio and photo files not bank or other sensitive records.  Blockchain and its wallet structure has its limitations.  Take bitcoin for instance in early December bitcoin got hacked for $70million meaning cryptologic algorithm is not perfect which Blockchain uses as well.  Of course a public Blockchain is a lot more secure than a private one. But I see NO reason to store my "hobby files in a blockchain wallet.


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2 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

@Jud Are you backing up more than music or just really worried about someone messing up your metadata?

 

:)

 

I used to just back up audio, but now that Backblaze requires me to back up my main local drive, there's other info too. 

 

Even if I was just backing up audio,  I can think of two reasons I would like my audio files to be secure: 

 

- It avoids having to think of explanations if the RIAA came to my door and asked why 2 million Chinese kids had my copy of an album. (Also may avoid some lost revenue for the artist.)

 

- A hacker might decide to either destroy my files, or have a worm or virus waiting the next time I decide to back up (which after all involves two way communication).


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1 minute ago, mansr said:

How do they do that?

 

There were two check boxes for the backup, one for my external drive, one for my primary local drive. When I unchecked the latter, the backup software said it would not proceed if I didn't back up my primary local drive.


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3 minutes ago, Jud said:

There were two check boxes for the backup, one for my external drive, one for my primary local drive. When I unchecked the latter, the backup software said it would not proceed if I didn't back up my primary local drive.

No third-party client software?

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12 minutes ago, mansr said:

No third-party client software?

 

There may well be, but I've been busy enough with other things I haven't bothered to look to see if there's something that would accord with my preferences. 

 

Edit: When I was looking at Backblaze, I did see several third party software options for another of their plans, but none for the inexpensive unlimited plan I'm on.  Doesn't mean I won't find any if I look further, of course.


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12 hours ago, Dan Gravell said:

 

The "cloud" is still part of the Internet.

 

What is your understanding of the term "cloud"?

 

you seem to have missed the posts, or mis-read them, but you got cloud right

 

hacking into my local machine is decidedly more difficult than getting into cloud storage, and getting into some files on my machines is not possible w/o physical access

 

but you & jud can do whatever you want


"The overwhelming majority [of audiophiles] have very little knowledge, if any, about the most basic principles and operating characteristics of audio equipment. They often base their purchasing decisions on hearsay, and the preaching of media sages. Unfortunately, because of commercial considerations, much information is rooted in increasing revenue, not in assisting the audiophile. It seems as if the only requirements for becoming an "authority" in the world of audio is a keyboard."

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58 minutes ago, Jud said:

 

:)

 

I used to just back up audio, but now that Backblaze requires me to back up my main local drive, there's other info too. 

 

Even if I was just backing up audio,  I can think of two reasons I would like my audio files to be secure: 

 

- It avoids having to think of explanations if the RIAA came to my door and asked why 2 million Chinese kids had my copy of an album. (Also may avoid some lost revenue for the artist.)

 

- A hacker might decide to either destroy my files, or have a worm or virus waiting the next time I decide to back up (which after all involves two way communication).

 

I was being a bit silly, I see your point.  I just try to avoid the cloud at all costs.


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3 hours ago, Gregory said:

 

Hi AudioDoctor,

What system/software do you use to do this synchronization?

 

 

Both of us have one of these, which is basically a Synology NAS in a fire and waterproof container, running Synology DiskStation Manager.

http://iosafe.com/1517-nas-backup-archive-dr-appliance

 

https://www.synology.com/en-us/dsm


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My understanding is I tell it where to back up, and it sends the stuff there over the net.  Its sort of like the cloud, but in my Brothers basement.

 

No shared directories, we each have our space on the others NAS.

 

I'm not smart enough to set this all up, I had to have a guy come do it.


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My backup service allows me to choose multi-factor authentication with my plan (for an alternative plan, multi-factor authentication is required).  In the financial sector, both state and federal regulators are moving to require multi-factor authentication: https://www.csoonline.com/article/3259505/authentication/ny-dfs-nist-and-naic-align-on-multi-factor-authentication-in-financial-services.html


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Clouds come and go...

 

You never know what can happen in the sky... Like we are sorry to inform you that all our passwords and files were deleted by a 13 years old hacker  :)

 

I will always favor physical backup for my music files and outside my house.


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there are advantages and dis-advantages either way

 

I don't see any reason to not use cloud backups for music files, but I'd keep a hard copy (physical) backup too.  I do NOT use the cloud for anything sensitive.


"The overwhelming majority [of audiophiles] have very little knowledge, if any, about the most basic principles and operating characteristics of audio equipment. They often base their purchasing decisions on hearsay, and the preaching of media sages. Unfortunately, because of commercial considerations, much information is rooted in increasing revenue, not in assisting the audiophile. It seems as if the only requirements for becoming an "authority" in the world of audio is a keyboard."

-- Bruce Rozenblit of Transcendent Sound

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2 hours ago, RunHomeSlow said:

Clouds come and go...

 

You never know what can happen in the sky... Like we are sorry to inform you that all our passwords and files were deleted by a 13 years old hacker  :)

 

I will always favor physical backup for my music files and outside my house.

Cloud storage is still useful as one of several backups. It's highly unlikely that Amazon, Google, and your safe deposit box will get hacked at the same time.

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Clouds are like a rent you pay to store something somewhere that doesn't exist in reality :)

 

Remember: Mafiaboy, the teen who brought down Yahoo, eBay and CNN

that can happen in a flash anyday, anywhere now.

 

Yes music files are not that important but it is an hassle to get it back if you lose it.

I play with music everyday, download, edit, save in A+ and JRiver library, convert all to mp3 also for my iPhone

but i don't backup everyday... my hard disc is at my father house and i bring it back home every 2 months maybe...

yes i can lose 100 albums in that time over 2900 already backup... but fire or robbery or hard disc crash doesn't happen much.

 

Clouds are not in your hands or can be feel really (sorry french speaking).

But yes as a second backup or third if you have money to give there, why not :)


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On 27/02/2018 at 12:42 PM, The Computer Audiophile said:

The cloud is someone else’s computer, not mine :~)

 

Not sure if this was a joke or not, but that's not necessarily true. It really comes down to your definition of cloud. If your computer is part of some decentralised computation or storage service, that may be defined as "cloud" because really (or at least, originally) cloud is just computing as a utility - it is not tied to any particular architecture.


 

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On 8/26/2017 at 12:21 PM, Musicophile said:

That's a good point. I'll probably spend the 20 bucks upgrade fee. 

 

I just got an update notification saying that extensive APFS Snapshot support has been added to CCC 5 as part of the latest 5.1.1 update, which is pretty freaking awesome. If anyone hasn't upgraded yet, now might be the perfect time. 

 

 

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  • Added support for creating a snapshot on an APFS-formatted source at the beginning of the backup task. This snapshot is then mounted and used as the source for copying files. By using a read-only volume as the source, we avoid rare, but potential conflicts that can occur during the backup task if files are modified while being copied.

  • New

    CCC's SafetyNet feature is now built on top of APFS snapshots when the destination is an APFS volume and snapshot support is enabled for that volume.

  • New

    CCC will create a snapshot on APFS destination volumes at the end of a backup task to establish a point-in-time restore point.

  • New

    CCC offers a highly-tunable snapshot retention policy that allows you to define how long snapshots will be retained (hourly, daily, weekly), and also allows you to define a minimum amount of free space to retain on the volume.

  • New

    CCC's Disk Center offers detailed insight into the snapshots that CCC and Time Machine have created on your APFS volumes. Quickly see how much space those snapshots are consuming, and delete one or many snapshots with the press of a button.

 

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I backup my NAS to CrashPlan Small Business. Very happy with it (though my upload speeds are pretty shabby).


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What backup schemes do you use?  Full backup + N incremental then full backup plus N incremental then repeat?  Delete entire backup and rewrite periodically?   Sync drives with a push to backup overwrite type strategy?

 

I am looking for new ideas for backup of my growing data (MC SACD, DVD-A, CD, Music video, needle drops, digitized analog tape, etc.) which has too much ripping/digitizing and tagging time invested to lose:

 

1. big drives in server w/Acronis backup software to bigger external drives

     - A full backup with incremental works well until it's time to do another full backup.  Multiple copies takes up too much space so I have to delete and start over.  Ideally I would have 2 full plus incremental.

 

2. Big drives in server with backup to much bigger NAS or NAS with backup to much bigger NAS

 

3. Big drives in server (or NAS) with push strategy to multiple copies.  I have seen this successfully used for 3 copies but it doesn't have a N-1 copy.

 

I currently have a 3 copy off site which gets dated if I don't update.   I have thought of using cloud for the third copy off site.

 

 

 

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