Boomcl1ck Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 This looks really interesting - right now though I would find it hard to live without Dirac room correction which I use via amarra symphony (stereo). Is there a way to send audio to this device after the correction filter has been applied? apologies in advance for what is probably a dumb question Link to comment
firedog Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 This looks really interesting - right now though I would find it hard to live without Dirac room correction which I use via amarra symphony (stereo). Is there a way to send audio to this device after the correction filter has been applied? apologies in advance for what is probably a dumb question Yes. You need a program that applies the room correction and then can send the digital output over the network to the microRendu. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +_iFi AC iPurifiers >Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Conditioning+Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Cormorant Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Yes. You need a program that applies the room correction and then can send the digital output over the network to the microRendu. Firedog, what program will do that with Dirac? My system here Link to comment
firedog Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Firedog, what program will do that with Dirac? Don't have any idea. Don't know much about Dirac. Just meant that their isn't any reason it CAN'T be done. Aren't there units that do Dirac processing with digital outs? I'm pretty sure there are. And isn't there some sort of network bridge device I saw once for Dirac? I'm pretty sure both of those are correct. So if they are, it should be possible. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +_iFi AC iPurifiers >Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Conditioning+Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Cormorant Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Don't have any idea. Don't know much about Dirac. Just meant that their isn't any reason it CAN'T be done. Aren't there units that do Dirac processing with digital outs? I'm pretty sure there are. And isn't there some sort of network bridge device I saw once for Dirac? I'm pretty sure both of those are correct. So if they are, it should be possible. Yeah, like you say it probably needs some sort of network bridge, since Dirac acts as a virtual sound card. As I understand it, there needs to be some program glue that takes the Dirac virtual sound card output and sends it over the network using one of the many transport protocols that the microRendu supports. I did a brief search this morning and I couldn't find one, though. Or maybe there is an alternative way to get network output. Maybe someone with Dirac experience can jump in? My system here Link to comment
Boomcl1ck Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Ok - and in my specific case with amarra symphony - Dirac/IRC applies a filter to the output so I need something that will take an amarra output to the microRendu - anyone lease looked at that? Link to comment
Miska Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Hmmh, Sonore's page says it supports HQPlayer NAA, but that feature is not mentioned here... Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 Hmmh, Sonore's page says it supports HQPlayer NAA, but that feature is not mentioned here... What do you mean? Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Mike Gillespie Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Mike, I assume you have all this into a wireless router (otherwise what does your ipad see?). You'll need music serving software (like Minimserver on your NAS) and a some free music browsing software on your ipad (called a control point in UPnP language) like Kazoo or other UPnP clients. No need to buy anything like JRIver or Roon if you are fine with loading free Minimserver on your NAS and a free iPad app. The microRednu sees Minimserver (once Minimserver loads and catalogs your NAS music and you tell microRendu to be in UPnP renderer mode), and grabs whatever music your ipad-based music browsing remote tells it to. The microRendu sends that music, via USB, to your DAC. Thanks, Ted, Firedog and Master. I'll use minimserver on the Synology 1812 and Kazoo on the Ipad. One more question (probably more revealing of my ignorance than the others): is there any way to have the above working (NAS with Minimserver to micro-Rendu) and also find a way to run TIDAL off the IPAD? Thanks. Mike MG555 Link to comment
ted_b Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 What do you mean? He means you didn't mention HQPlayer NAA mode in your part 1 review. Many of us will be evaluating the uRendu as an NAA (as well as an OpenHome ethernet renderer, Mpd client, etc). "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 He means you didn't mention HQPlayer NAA mode in your part 1 review. Many of us will be evaluating the uRendu as an NAA (as well as an OpenHome ethernet renderer, Mpd client, etc). That was my guess. But it's a bit premature to complain that I haven't used one's software, when the review is half way finished. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
YashN Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 That was my guess. But it's a bit premature to complain that I haven't used one's software, when the review is half way finished. Could be added as a point (currently 5 of them) in the "What is the microrendu" section. Dedicated Line DSD/DXD | Audirvana+ | iFi iDSD Nano | SET Tube Amp | Totem Mites Surround: VLC | M-Audio FastTrack Pro | Mac Opt | Panasonic SA-HE100 | Logitech Z623 DIY: SET Tube Amp | Low-Noise Linear Regulated Power Supply | USB, Power, Speaker Cables | Speaker Stands | Acoustic Panels Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 Could be added as a point (currently 5 of them) in the "What is the microrendu" section. Agree. I could add many items to that list. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 Hmmh, Sonore's page says it supports HQPlayer NAA, but that feature is not mentioned here... I look forward to seeing you in Munich at the event Friday night :~) Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Elberoth Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Is it Lampizator compatible (Amanero USB board) ? Adam PC: Hot rodded CAPS v4 Pipeline: Teradak ATX linear PSU, MojoAudio super regulator, Pink Faun Ultra OCXO USB card Digital: Lampizator Pacific DAC Amp: Dan D'Agostino Momentum Stereo Speakers: Magcio M3 Link to comment
EuroDriver Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I look forward to seeing you in Munich at the event Friday night :~) microRendu weight about 200 grams at a guess, Sound Galleries Music Server weight about 27 Kilograms so many different paths to Audio Nirvana, LoL - HQ Player span's it all Really look forward to see you both on Friday and Adam, you too ! Sound Test, Monaco Consultant to Sound Galleries Monaco, and Taiko Audio Holland e-mail [email protected] Link to comment
Doak Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Is it Lampizator compatible (Amanero USB board) ? I am using microRendu with a Lampizator L4 G5 with Amanaro USB receiver. It was built about 8 months ago. Using Sonic Transporter to feed them. Doak's Audio System Link to comment
Elescher Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I was using an earlier version Sonic Orbiter with a Jcat USB card/Lampizator. At this time the MRondu/Sonic Orbiter/Linux/Amanero will work up to DOP DSD128. There are expectations for Amanero to provide updated drivers that can be downloaded on to your computer that will permit native 256-512, but unfortunately there is a lack of transparency (pun intended) by many. I still am not certain if the Amanero board on the DAC needs to be updated too if and when this happens. Link to comment
agillis Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 This looks really interesting - right now though I would find it hard to live without Dirac room correction which I use via amarra symphony (stereo). Is there a way to send audio to this device after the correction filter has been applied? apologies in advance for what is probably a dumb question You could use a DAC with Dirac room correction built in. https://www.minidsp.com/products/dirac-series In this case the microRendu could play directly to the USB input in this DAC. This would completely eliminate the PC from your playback chain and greatly simplify your music listening. Plus you could use Roon! agillis Small Green Computer http://www.smallgreencomputer.com/ Link to comment
agillis Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Is it Lampizator compatible (Amanero USB board) ? Yes! agillis Small Green Computer http://www.smallgreencomputer.com/ Link to comment
ted_b Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Mine arrives Wednesday. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
joelha Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I look forward to seeing you in Munich at the event Friday night :~) What event on Friday night? Joel Link to comment
EuroDriver Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 What event on Friday night? Joel The event is DSD 512 May Fest in Munich the thread about the event is here http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f8-general-forum/direct-stream-digital-512-may-fest-munich-28320/ Are you going to be in Munich this week ? Sound Test, Monaco Consultant to Sound Galleries Monaco, and Taiko Audio Holland e-mail [email protected] Link to comment
joelha Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 The event is DSD 512 May Fest in Munich the thread about the event is here http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f8-general-forum/direct-stream-digital-512-may-fest-munich-28320/ Are you going to be in Munich this week ? In fact I am. I'll be at the show. Thanks a lot for the information. Joel Link to comment
Elberoth Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Yes! Thanks. Do you know what rates ? 256 or 128 only ? Adam PC: Hot rodded CAPS v4 Pipeline: Teradak ATX linear PSU, MojoAudio super regulator, Pink Faun Ultra OCXO USB card Digital: Lampizator Pacific DAC Amp: Dan D'Agostino Momentum Stereo Speakers: Magcio M3 Link to comment
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