orgel Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Well, which is it? --David Listening Room: Mac mini (Roon Core) > iMac (HQP) > exaSound PlayPoint (as NAA) > exaSound e32 > W4S STP-SE > Benchmark AHB2 > Wilson Sophia Series 2 (Details) Office: Mac Pro > AudioQuest DragonFly Red > JBL LSR305 Mobile: iPhone 6S > AudioQuest DragonFly Black > JH Audio JH5 Link to comment
jumper Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Blue Jeans... Belden 1800F for balanced and their LC-1 for RCA. Link to comment
mansr Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 What should those vote who use both types? Link to comment
sandyk Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Well, which is it? --David Yet another useless poll that will prove nothing. Haven't we already had enough silly polls recently ? Balanced vs unbalanced has been debated numerous types before, and it comes down mainly to distance between components and whether professional or domestic use. Both have advantages and disadvantages depending on their use . The tone of the demanding "well which is it" is not necessary either. How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
orgel Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 What should those vote who use both types? I thought about a third option but then just decided, "The hell with it." Pick a side or lay out. Makes analysis much easier. --David Listening Room: Mac mini (Roon Core) > iMac (HQP) > exaSound PlayPoint (as NAA) > exaSound e32 > W4S STP-SE > Benchmark AHB2 > Wilson Sophia Series 2 (Details) Office: Mac Pro > AudioQuest DragonFly Red > JBL LSR305 Mobile: iPhone 6S > AudioQuest DragonFly Black > JH Audio JH5 Link to comment
orgel Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 Yet another useless poll that will prove nothing. Haven't we already had enough silly polls recently ? Not really looking for a debate; just was curious to get a feel for the breakdown. Whenever someone says, "Most CA'ers do/don't do such and such," it piques my curiosity. --David Listening Room: Mac mini (Roon Core) > iMac (HQP) > exaSound PlayPoint (as NAA) > exaSound e32 > W4S STP-SE > Benchmark AHB2 > Wilson Sophia Series 2 (Details) Office: Mac Pro > AudioQuest DragonFly Red > JBL LSR305 Mobile: iPhone 6S > AudioQuest DragonFly Black > JH Audio JH5 Link to comment
sdolezalek Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 My guess is that between the too small sample size (<100 responders) and human nature effect that if one side is winning the other is more likely to vote, means you are likely to get a meaningless near tie outcome. Synology NAS>i7-6700/32GB/NVIDIA QUADRO P4000 Win10>Qobuz+Tidal>Roon>HQPlayer>DSD512> Fiber Switch>Ultrarendu (NAA)>Holo Audio May KTE DAC> Bryston SP3 pre>Levinson No. 432 amps>Magnepan (MG20.1x2, CCR and MMC2x6) Link to comment
sandyk Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 My guess is that between the too small sample size (<100 responders) and human nature effect that if one side is winning the other is more likely to vote, means you are likely to get a meaningless near tie outcome. That, and given the fact that most low to medium priced consumer devices still have unbalanced inputs and outputs, and that some that do have balanced outputs have an unbalanced input, with an extra PCB (added complexity) to give a balanced output, makes this Poll a waste of time unless you at least also include those that have unbalanced inputs and balanced outputs in a separate category. Some DACs for example, simply add an additional PCB to provide the Balanced Output facility. Even then, only real fanbois of one type over the other are likely to be bothered responding. Most don't really care as long as it sounds good, and for many with the added balanced input capability, it isn't always used because of the limitations of the source device. How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
esldude Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Following the great audiophile tradition I reject your reality and substitute my own. To hell with your poll. And always keep in mind: Cognitive biases, like seeing optical illusions are a sign of a normally functioning brain. We all have them, it’s nothing to be ashamed about, but it is something that affects our objective evaluation of reality. Link to comment
Allan F Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Balanced vs unbalanced has been debated numerous types before, and it comes down mainly to distance between components and whether professional or domestic use.+1 I agree, especially since you included the word "mainly". Depending on the type of connectors used, however, some RCA interconnect cables provide a relatively poorer physical connection or one that locks on so tight, it becomes a royal pain to remove. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
17629 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I thought about a third option but then just decided, "The hell with it." Pick a side or lay out. Makes analysis much easier. --David For me, I can't pick a side because I use both. Link to comment
Speedskater Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I would use balanced whenever they are available. But then, how many hi-fi components have balanced output or input stages? It's not about the cable, it's about the interconnect system. A balanced cable with an RCA adapter at each end doesn't get you anything. Link to comment
DigiPete Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Digital interconnects I do use to carry sound signals: - AES3 (aka AES/EBU) - Thunderbolt - Firewire Digital interconnects have no loss or coloring, so why would I use analoge? # # Assuming correct implementation, filtering, buffering, EMC suppression etc. Promise Pegasus2 R6 12TB -> Thunderbolt2 -> MacBook Pro M1 Pro -> Motu 8D -> AES/EBU -> Main: Genelec 5 x 8260A + 2 x 8250 + 2 x 8330 + 7271A sub Boat: Genelec 8010 + 5040 sub Hifiman Sundara, Sennheiser PXC 550 II Blog: “Confessions of a DigiPhile” Link to comment
orgel Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 This all seemed very straightforward when I posted it. Glad I don't have to take your dinner order. "Would you like the French fries or the baked potato?" Chaos ensues. --David Listening Room: Mac mini (Roon Core) > iMac (HQP) > exaSound PlayPoint (as NAA) > exaSound e32 > W4S STP-SE > Benchmark AHB2 > Wilson Sophia Series 2 (Details) Office: Mac Pro > AudioQuest DragonFly Red > JBL LSR305 Mobile: iPhone 6S > AudioQuest DragonFly Black > JH Audio JH5 Link to comment
mav52 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I use both. The Truth Is Out There Link to comment
Iain Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Wot is analogue? sureshmasipogula 1 http://www.soundonsound.com/ Link to comment
Panelhead Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I agree with your picks. I also use coax for SPDIF. But prefer AES. My system does have analog between Dac/crossover/DRC/preamp and the amplifier and it is XLR. 2012 Mac Mini, i5 - 2.5 GHz, 16 GB RAM. SSD, PM/PV software, Focusrite Clarett 4Pre 4 channel interface. Daysequerra M4.0X Broadcast monitor., My_Ref Evolution rev a , Klipsch La Scala II, Blue Sky Sub 12 Clarett used as ADC for vinyl rips. Corning Optical Thunderbolt cable used to connect computer to 4Pre. Dac fed by iFi iPower and Noise Trapper isolation transformer. Link to comment
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