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1 hour ago, mirekti said:

It would be great if Uptone came out with dedicated sms-200 board. In fact, there's enough space in the sms-200 case to keep it all in one case.

 

As of now, I guess one could put two LPS-1 in series and make it work.

 

I'm not sure what you are asking?

 

If you want to use the LPS-1 with the sMS-200, a single LPS-1 set to 7V powers it just fine. Many of us are using it that way.

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8 minutes ago, austinpop said:

 

I'm not sure what you are asking?

 

 

If I got it right sms-200 works with dual voltage i.e. it has a DC-DC regulator inside so if one removes this regulator and inserts custom LPS board, the board has have two fixed DC outputs. This is just my imaginary Uptone board.  

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8 minutes ago, mirekti said:

 

If I got it right sms-200 works with dual voltage i.e. it has a DC-DC regulator inside so if one removes this regulator and inserts custom LPS board, the board has have two fixed DC outputs. This is just my imaginary Uptone board.  

Why do you want to bypass this regulator? I guess SOTM has put there a good regulator, not all regulators are bad. 

I use a sms 200 with a uptone LPS 1 and the result is very good. 

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Just now, Nouchka said:

Why do you want to bypass this regulator? I guess SOTM has put there a good regulator, not all regulators are bad 

 

Not necessarily I want to bypass it, but I would like to have it all in one box so one would need to remove SOTM's regulator to put LPS inside. Ah, never mind, just an idea.  


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On 2017. 3. 24. at 11:24 PM, tboooe said:

@MayfromSOtM can you pls confirm if the SMS-200 Ultra firmware will be patched to allow native DSD playback to the most recent devices listed on the github link above?

 

I will check it with our engineer team and get back to you!

Thank you!

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23 minutes ago, MayfromSOtM said:

I will check it with our engineer team and get back to you!

Thank you!

 

Hi May,

 

I can only find small bits and pieces about the SMS-200 Ultra on this forum.

 

Is there some information about the changes and upgrades and improvements from the standard SMS-200?

 

And when it will be available and price?

 

Thanks again

 

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2 hours ago, MayfromSOtM said:

I will check it with our engineer team and get back to you!

Thank you!

Thank you.  In particular I am interested in playing native DSD through my Singxer SU-1.


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7 hours ago, gionaz said:

hi folks, but it's possible to turn on the sms200 by the url http://eunhasu/index.php#   ????

the sms200 don't have a power button ! :(

it's intended to be left on all of the time -- it uses very little electricity so cost of leaving on is minimal.


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14 hours ago, Em2016 said:

 

Hi May,

 

I can only find small bits and pieces about the SMS-200 Ultra on this forum.

 

Is there some information about the changes and upgrades and improvements from the standard SMS-200?

 

And when it will be available and price?

 

Thanks again

 

The U.S. Distributor in response to my inquiry sent me an email last week stating that the 200Ultra will have the sCLK-EX clock upgrade. The release date has not been announced. The TX-USBUltra which is a USB regenerator should be released by the end of the month.


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3 hours ago, gionaz said:

SMS-200 Ultra ? WOW

i sell my sms200 now ! :-)

i think to sell also the Uptone JS2 power supply...

 

 

The JS2 would be a great way to power the sMS-200 Ultra.  The JS2 can supply plenty of current and my sMS-200 Ultra sounds especially good at 12V.

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because the psu burns 15.4 watt in idle and i use it to power my Router and my sms200, the router must power on always ! I had not thought of this problem! :-)

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1 minute ago, romaz said:

The JS2 would be a great way to power the sMS-200 Ultra.  The JS2 can supply plenty of current and my sMS-200 Ultra sounds especially good at 12V.

the ultra is now available ?

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25 minutes ago, gionaz said:

the ultra is now available ?

 

Not officially but I have one, nonetheless.  It should be available next month.

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1 minute ago, romaz said:

 

Not officially but I have one, nonetheless. 

 

 

Does it look the same? :)


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Mine is a prototype of sorts.  It has the new sCLK-EX but my sMS-200 is housed in the original chassis.  Since the clock board is larger, I have it housed in a separate chassis.  Not ideal but it was the only way.  The official Ultra version will have a new larger chassis to accommodate everything into one chassis and will be more attractive than my setup.  My guess is that it will look like the tX-USB Ultra but I don't know that for a fact.  What I will say is that the upgrade will very much be worthwhile.

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On 28/03/2017 at 8:35 AM, romaz said:

Mine is a prototype of sorts.  It has the new sCLK-EX but my sMS-200 is housed in the original chassis.  Since the clock board is larger, I have it housed in a separate chassis.  Not ideal but it was the only way.  The official Ultra version will have a new larger chassis to accommodate everything into one chassis and will be more attractive than my setup.  My guess is that it will look like the tX-USB Ultra but I don't know that for a fact.  What I will say is that the upgrade will very much be worthwhile.

 

Hi Romaz, in addition to the new clock,  what are the other changes to the board of your prototype? 

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15 minutes ago, Em2016 said:

 

Hi Romaz, in addition to the new clock,  what are the other changes to the board of your prototype? 

 

 

It's just the clock that has changed (the sMS-200 has 2 clocks and both have been upgraded).  This is, however, quite a big deal.

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1 minute ago, romaz said:

 

It's just the clock that has changed (the sMS-200 has 2 clocks and both have been upgraded).  This is, however, quite a big deal.

 

Nice. This is for further jitter reduction yes?

 

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6 minutes ago, Em2016 said:

 

Nice. This is for further jitter reduction yes?

 

 

 

Yes.  Better time precision, better detail clarity, more open soundstage with better depth.  The stock clock was already quite good so it's saying a lot to say this new clock is better.  Amazingly so.  Just for kicks, I also have the new dX-USB HD Ultra (USB-to-SPDIF converter) following the sMS-200 Ultra and this converter also has the new clock and the improvement continues.

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2 minutes ago, romaz said:

 

Yes.  Better time precision, better detail clarity, more open soundstage with better depth.  The stock clock was already quite good so it's saying a lot to say this new clock is better.  Amazingly so.  Just for kicks, I also have the new dX-USB HD Ultra (USB-to-SPDIF converter) following the sMS-200 Ultra and this converter also has the new clock and the improvement continues.

Excellent, what Dac have you been testing the prototypes with, just out of interest? 

 

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