vrop Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I have bought a T+A DAC8dsd with a microrendu. I am able to play pcm files (both through HQplayer and Roon), but not dsd files. With HQplayer I do not know the settings for the microrendu, but it keeps upconverting to 352kHz pcm, no output in dsd format. I can only select auto and pcm in the field for output selection. With Roon and the microrendu with the roonready app activated and dsd setting to "native dsd" the T+A dac8 still displays pcm data. Is there a setting in Roon, HQPlayer, microrendu or the DAC which I have to change? Could somebody show the working settings for DSD in the menus of HQplayer? Link to comment
ted_b Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I have bought a T+A DAC8dsd with a microrendu. I am able to play pcm files (both through HQplayer and Roon), but not dsd files. With HQplayer I do not know the settings for the microrendu, but it keeps upconverting to 352kHz pcm, no output in dsd format. I can only select auto and pcm in the field for output selection. With Roon and the microrendu with the roonready app activated and dsd setting to "native dsd" the T+A dac8 still displays pcm data. Is there a setting in Roon, HQPlayer, microrendu or the DAC which I have to change? Could somebody show the working settings for DSD in the menus of HQplayer? Until the internal Amanero USB card is updated to microRendu specs (meaning Linux native DSD capability) you have to set HQplayer SDM pack to DoP. Then you'll be able to do DSD, but not to the DSD512 that makes the T+A so special. Through Windows, yes, through microRendu (i.e Linux) no. P.S. It's been discussed quite a bit here, earier in the thread. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
wisnon Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Until the internal Amanero USB card is updated to microRendu specs (meaning Linux native DSD capability) you have to set HQplayer SDM pack to DoP. Then you'll be able to do DSD, but not to the DSD512 that makes the T+A so special. Through Windows, yes, through microRendu (i.e Linux) no. P.S. It's been discussed quite a bit here, earier in the thread. Ted, I guess he could firmware flash the Amanero, but that would invalidate the warranty. Link to comment
vrop Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Dear ted_b, Many thanks for your help, I did not realize I had to switch to DoP. Link to comment
ted_b Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Ted, I guess he could firmware flash the Amanero, but that would invalidate the warranty. Yes, many probably would, ff only Amanero had a solution yet. They don't. They seem to be stuck in older Linux distros; they can't figure out how to get Native working in this one. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
wisnon Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Yes, many probably would, ff only Amanero had a solution yet. They don't. They seem to be stuck in older Linux distros; they can't figure out how to get Native working in this one. Are you sure about that? I recall Bib01 and others saying the holdup was the OFFICIAL patch in Linux not being ready then, but it is now. Link to comment
ted_b Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Are you sure about that?I recall Bib01 and others saying the holdup was the OFFICIAL patch in Linux not being ready then, but it is now. Great, news to me. Where is this news? Jurgen's (lintweaker) Amanero Linux issue thread on his github hasn't been updates in two months. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
bibo01 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 The hold up is Amanero's developer. He still has not developed a working firmware. Unfortunately, in the last few weeks I have not been able to get hold of him, which is strange. I hope nothing bad has happened. How curious are you? Link to comment
wisnon Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 The hold up is Amanero's developer. He still has not developed a working firmware. Unfortunately, in the last few weeks I have not been able to get hold of him, which is strange. I hope nothing bad has happened. Bib, What is the maximum that amanero will play back DSD at "natively" in Linux at the moment? For sure DSD256 and I think if you patch Source and Amanero 512, you can do non-DoP dsd512 in Linux, but won't swear to this. Link to comment
ted_b Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Amanero does not play ANY DSD in native/raw mode. Via the microRendu, for example, you'll get PCM and you'll get DSD128 (if set for DoP). "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
craighartley Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Amanero does not play ANY DSD in native/raw mode. Via the microRendu, for example, you'll get PCM and you'll get DSD128 (if set for DoP). Windows/ASIO ? Link to comment
ted_b Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Windows/ASIO ? Wisnon's question was about Linux. Yes, Windows is full on DSD512, as has been discussed here as being state of the art. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
Forehaven Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Really unfortunate Ted that Linux is falling behind Windows...at least for now. The uR is a lot easier to implement as a NAA vs another pc. Ryzen 7 2700 PC Server, NUC7CJYH w. 4G Apacer RAM as Renderer/LPS 1.2 - IsoRegen/LPS-1/.2 - Singxer SU-1/LPS1.2 - Holo Spring Level 3 DAC - LTA MicroZOTL MZ2 - Modwright KWA 150 Signature Amp - Tidal Audio Piano's. . Link to comment
ddorian Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Guys, do the balanced outputs sound better than the single-ended ones of the T+A DAC8 DSD ? Link to comment
Noodeling Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Yes, they do sound different! In my system (!) XLR is the winner: more Space and Separation between Instruments. The unbalanced rca Output has a more Compact and somekind washed. For little $£¥€ every Dac8 owner can Check this out with XLR 2 RCA Adapters. Sound difference is Not small. So give it a try! Link to comment
Miska Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 For little $£¥€ every Dac8 owner can Check this out with XLR 2 RCA Adapters. Usually, XLR-to-RCA adapters should be worse because they just take the other half and ground from the signal. While properly made single-ended output takes both signal sides into account (and sometimes optionally leaves the ground floating). However, the way single-ended output is implemented inside DACs varies widely. Sometimes it's just picking the other side to save on number of components needed and result is the same as using XLR to RCA adapter. One can also do proper balanced to single-ended conversion with a separate electronics box. Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Distinctive Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Another issue one might think about is that for certain areas of simultanous use you may get a volume mismatch because the balanced output normally is 6dB hotter than the SE. Link to comment
lmitche Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 You could always try a Jensen transformer. Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
edbk Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 The RCA outputs are connected to pins 1 and 2 of the balanced output. So you are using half the output stage which has been optimised for balanced loading. The XLR outputs have a better noise performance. A balanced to single ended transformer is a very good suggestion and, if of sufficient quality, will improve performance. Link to comment
lmitche Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 The RCA outputs are connected to pins 1 and 2 of the balanced output. So you are using half the output stage which has been optimised for balanced loading. The XLR outputs have a better noise performance. A balanced to single ended transformer is a very good suggestion and, if of sufficient quality, will improve performance. http://www.jensen-transformers.com/product/pc-2xr/ Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
Miska Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 PC-2XR | Jensen Transformers I've been using semiconductor approach based on opamp in my DAC designs, but depends on what one wants to use... Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
juanitox Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 The XLR outputs have a better noise performance. the DAC8 as 116db NR , so i doubt if we could hear any noise differences at this level .. PC audio /Roon + HQPLAYER / HOLO Spring 2 / / DIY AD1 SET tube amp / DIY Altec 2 way horn Speaker Link to comment
Jud Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 PC-2XR | Jensen Transformers I've been using semiconductor approach based on opamp in my DAC designs, but depends on what one wants to use... Two other possibilities: intact audio THAT Driver: Differential line driver / preamp One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
YashN Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I've been using semiconductor approach based on opamp in my DAC designs, but depends on what one wants to use... 'Toobs' Dedicated Line DSD/DXD | Audirvana+ | iFi iDSD Nano | SET Tube Amp | Totem Mites Surround: VLC | M-Audio FastTrack Pro | Mac Opt | Panasonic SA-HE100 | Logitech Z623 DIY: SET Tube Amp | Low-Noise Linear Regulated Power Supply | USB, Power, Speaker Cables | Speaker Stands | Acoustic Panels Link to comment
yanqing Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 T+A DAC 8 DSD is a wonderful dac it beat my w4s dac2 dsd!!! Link to comment
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