vortecjr Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 Just saw your post update. I updated the SOSE software to the newest version, rebooted both the SOSE and RoonServer. No playback issues but one thing i noticed is that Roon still shows 1.0.9 as the version number and the SOSE shows the RoonReady Version number as 1.0.11. I don't know if this matters or not but thought i would relay it. Highest DSD resloution in Roon for my NuPrime is showing DSD128 as well, though i belive you stated that was a limitation on that side. Thanks. Play DSD64, go to the GUI, and then send me the text in DAC Diagnostics via email to [email protected] SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 @vortecjr-- Now for another annoying question: @Foggie pointed me to this thread on the What's Best Forum: Amanero now supporting native DSD In Linux Does this mean that you could support native DSD on the Lampizator DACs with the SOSE or microRendu? (My SOSE is in your order queue.) --David Yes. We have been working on it today. However, the code and the firmware have not been tested. We need a volunteer with a SE and Lampi DAC to test things. If you have this combination and would like to test native DSD on it email me at [email protected]. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
Mystic Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Jesus R, can you look into native DSD support for the Unison Research CD Due. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Computer Audiophile mobile app Link to comment
vortecjr Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 Jesus R, can you look into native DSD support for the Unison Research CD Due. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Computer Audiophile mobile app If you have a Sonicorbiter SE send me the data on the DAC Diognostics GUI page. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted March 6, 2016 Author Share Posted March 6, 2016 Yes. We have been working on it today. However, the code and the firmware have not been tested. We need a volunteer with a SE and Lampi DAC to test things. If you have this combination and would like to test native DSD on it email me at [email protected]. Looks like this is going to need more work. It's hard to get this right without a unit to test on. Does anyone know what devices use the Amanero USB board? So far I know about AMI Musik and Lampi. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
Mystic Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 If you have a Sonicorbiter SE send me the data on the DAC Diognostics GUI page. Is this correct is what you requested? DAC description: UNISON CDP 2 20b1:302d Diagnostic information for this DAC UNISON RESEARCH UNISON CDP 2 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio Playback: Status: Running Interface = 1 Altset = 2 Packet Size = 31 Momentary freq = 44103 Hz (0x5.8348) Feedback Format = 16.16 Interface 1 Altset 1 Format: S32_LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Interface 1 Altset 2 Format: S16_LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Interface 1 Altset 3 Format: SPECIAL Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Link to comment
Foggie Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Looks like this is going to need more work. It's hard to get this right without a unit to test on. Does anyone know what devices use the Amanero USB board? So far I know about AMI Musik and Lampi. I would love to help test (Lampi L7) as I'm sure most would also. If anyone in the MN area has a SOSE (or equiv if that even applies) I would be more than happy to assist in testing. My rig Link to comment
vortecjr Posted March 6, 2016 Author Share Posted March 6, 2016 Is this correct is what you requested? DAC description: UNISON CDP 2 20b1:302d Diagnostic information for this DAC UNISON RESEARCH UNISON CDP 2 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio Playback: Status: Running Interface = 1 Altset = 2 Packet Size = 31 Momentary freq = 44103 Hz (0x5.8348) Feedback Format = 16.16 Interface 1 Altset 1 Format: S32_LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Interface 1 Altset 2 Format: S16_LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Interface 1 Altset 3 Format: SPECIAL Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us That looks good! SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
mrvco Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Any word on the Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme? I just ordered my mR this morning and will be more than happy to test once it arrives. -- My Audio System Link to comment
vortecjr Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 No counter intelligence on that device. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
Doak Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I would love to help test (Lampi L7) as I'm sure most would also. If anyone in the MN area has a SOSE (or equiv if that even applies) I would be more than happy to assist in testing. Will test my Lampizator L4G5. I suspect the L7 and L4 use the same Amerano USB receiver. Setting up the uRendu and Sonic Transporter. Doak's Audio System Link to comment
steven.collins.omega Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Hello, I'm actually not sure whether my LH Labs Geek Out 450 supports "native" DSD or not; and to be clear, I don't necessarily care that much myself, as I intend to use my Sonicorbiter SE primarily with another, non-DSD DAC. I thought I would provide the diagnostic output just in case it would be helpful, though. [h=3]USB DAC[/h] DAC description: Geek Out HD Audio 1V5 2522:0007 Diagnostic information for this DAC LH Labs Geek Out HD Audio 1V5 at usb-ci_hdrc.0-1, high speed : USB Audio Playback: Status: Running Interface = 1 Altset = 1 Packet Size = 228 Momentary freq = 176411 Hz (0x16.0d28) Feedback Format = 16.16 Interface 1 Altset 1 Format: S32_LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Interface 1 Altset 2 Format: SPECIAL Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us access: RW_INTERLEAVED format: S32_LE subformat: STD channels: 2 rate: 176400 (176400/1) period_size: 22050 buffer_size: 88200 Link to comment
vortecjr Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 Hello, I'm actually not sure whether my LH Labs Geek Out 450 supports "native" DSD or not; and to be clear, I don't necessarily care that much myself, as I intend to use my Sonicorbiter SE primarily with another, non-DSD DAC. I thought I would provide the diagnostic output just in case it would be helpful, though. Thank you. It's being worked on already. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
mrvco Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Any word on the Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme? I just ordered my mR this morning and will be more than happy to test once it arrives. Here is the DAC Diagnostics information while playing a DSD64 file from HQ Player (no audio of course). USB output DAC description: xCORE USB Audio 2.0 20b1:3021 Diagnostic information for this DAC XMOS xCORE USB Audio 2.0 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio Playback: Status: Running Interface = 1 Altset = 1 Packet Size = 294 Momentary freq = 383997 Hz (0x2f.ffe8) Feedback Format = 16.16 Interface 1 Altset 1 Format: S24_3LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Interface 1 Altset 2 Format: S32_LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Interface 1 Altset 3 Format: SPECIAL Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Capture: Status: Stop Interface 2 Altset 1 Format: S32_LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 2 IN (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 usaccess: RW_INTERLEAVED format: S24_3LE subformat: STD channels: 2 rate: 384000 (384000/1) period_size: 38400 buffer_size: 76800 -- My Audio System Link to comment
vortecjr Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 Here is the DAC Diagnostics information while playing a DSD64 file from HQ Player (no audio of course). USB output DAC description: xCORE USB Audio 2.0 20b1:3021 Diagnostic information for this DAC XMOS xCORE USB Audio 2.0 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio Playback: Status: Running Interface = 1 Altset = 1 Packet Size = 294 Momentary freq = 383997 Hz (0x2f.ffe8) Feedback Format = 16.16 Interface 1 Altset 1 Format: S24_3LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Interface 1 Altset 2 Format: S32_LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Interface 1 Altset 3 Format: SPECIAL Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Capture: Status: Stop Interface 2 Altset 1 Format: S32_LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 2 IN (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 usaccess: RW_INTERLEAVED format: S24_3LE subformat: STD channels: 2 rate: 384000 (384000/1) period_size: 38400 buffer_size: 76800 Is this a DIY board? Post a link to the product page? DoP should work fine into it. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
mrvco Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Is this a DIY board? Post a link to the product page? DoP should work fine into it. Eastern Electric Audio - MiniMax Tube DAC Supreme I was pretty wiped out last night by the time I got around to DSD, but i didn't see the DSD options for the mR in Roon that I remember when connected directly to the DAC via USB. I should be in better shape tonight to take a closer look. -- My Audio System Link to comment
jhwalker Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Got mine today and listening - RoonReady and NAA outputs both work very well I would like to figure out, however, how to get two things working: 1) Native DSD with LH Labs Pulse XFi - It should be able to play direct (e.g., no DoP) via the microRendu - how to get this enabled? 2) DSD256 - I have the latest LH Labs firmware which enables DSD256 on the Pulse - how to get this enabled? Here are the diagnostics with the DAC playing DSD128 via RoonReady: DAC description: Geek Pulse X Infinity 2V0 2522:0009 Diagnostic information for this DAC LH Labs Geek Pulse X Infinity 2V0 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio Playback: Status: Running Interface = 1 Altset = 1 Packet Size = 392 Momentary freq = 352796 Hz (0x2c.1978) Feedback Format = 16.16 Interface 1 Altset 1 Format: S32_LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Interface 1 Altset 2 Format: SPECIAL Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 usaccess: RW_INTERLEAVED format: S32_LE subformat: STD channels: 2 rate: 352800 (352800/1) period_size: 8820 buffer_size: 35280 John Walker - IT Executive Headphone - SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable Ethernet > mRendu Roon endpoint > Topping D90 > Topping A90d > Dan Clark Expanse / HiFiMan H6SE v2 / HiFiman Arya Stealth Home Theater / Music -SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable HDMI > Denon X3700h > Anthem Amp for front channels > Revel F208-based 5.2.4 Atmos speaker system Link to comment
vortecjr Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 Eastern Electric Audio - MiniMax Tube DAC Supreme I was pretty wiped out last night by the time I got around to DSD, but i didn't see the DSD options for the mR in Roon that I remember when connected directly to the DAC via USB. I should be in better shape tonight to take a closer look. Okay. I'll submit it. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
Blake Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 +1 to JHWalker's questions above. I have the same DAC. . LH Labs Pulse Xfi. I will be using RoonReady Mode. Thanks Speaker Room: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Pacific 2 | Viva Linea | Constellation Inspiration Stereo 1.0 | FinkTeam Kim | Revel subs Office Headphone System: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Golden Gate 3 | Viva Egoista | Abyss AB1266 Phi TC Link to comment
vortecjr Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 Got mine today and listening - RoonReady and NAA outputs both work very well I would like to figure out, however, how to get two things working: 1) Native DSD with LH Labs Pulse XFi - It should be able to play direct (e.g., no DoP) via the microRendu - how to get this enabled? 2) DSD256 - I have the latest LH Labs firmware which enables DSD256 on the Pulse - how to get this enabled? Cool. I'll submit the data for you and then we have to update the unit. It's a long process. If it really supports DoP at the rate then go to the GUI and in Settings/RoonReady make sure you have it set for DoP output. For NAA you have to go to HQ Player and set it there. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
mrvco Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Is this a DIY board? Post a link to the product page? DoP should work fine into it. Jesus, Ok, I'm able to play a DSD file from Roon (no HQ Player for now). Here is the DAC diag info for a DSD64 file: DAC description: xCORE USB Audio 2.0 20b1:3021 Diagnostic information for this DAC XMOS xCORE USB Audio 2.0 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio Playback: Status: Running Interface = 1 Altset = 2 Packet Size = 392 Momentary freq = 352795 Hz (0x2c.1970) Feedback Format = 16.16 Interface 1 Altset 1 Format: S24_3LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Interface 1 Altset 2 Format: S32_LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Interface 1 Altset 3 Format: SPECIAL Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us EDIT: BAH, I just discovered the DoP check mark box in the Roon Ready settings for the mR. I'm now playing DSD64 and 128 files using DoP directly from Roon as well as through HQ Player. So is there a way (or a reason) to send Native DSD to the DAC? Thanks! -- My Audio System Link to comment
rah50 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Hi Jesus: Using HQPlayer/NAA I'm only able to get to DSD using DoP with my W4S DAC2 DSDse. Here are the diagnostics and custom dac info: USB output DAC description: 32bit 384kHz DSD Interface 27f7:1301 Diagnostic information for this DAC Wyred 4 Sound 32bit 384kHz DSD Interface at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio Playback: Status: Running Interface = 2 Altset = 1 Packet Size = 448 Momentary freq = 352799 Hz (0x2c.1990) Feedback Format = 16.16 Interface 2 Altset 1 Format: S32_LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 5 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 32000, 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us access: RW_INTERLEAVED format: S32_LE subformat: STD channels: 2 rate: 352800 (352800/1) period_size: 35280 buffer_size: 70560 0) USB Audio Class Digital alsa audio output interface `hw:0,0' - device name = 32bit 384kHz DSD Interface - interface name = USB Audio - usb audio class = 2 - isochronous asynchronous - character device = /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p - encoding formats = S32_LE - monitor file = /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/hw_params - stream file = /proc/asound/card0/stream0 Never had use DoP before! Help! Bob Bob Mac Mini M1 12 volt dc > Roon > HQ Player to DSD 256 > Fibre to EtherRegen w/LPS1.2 and BG7TBL OCXO > Sonore microRendu v1.3 > IsoRegen > Denafrips Iris > i2s > Denafrips Pontus II > Schiit Freya+ w/ Linlai E-6SN7's > Nord One Up NCore 500 monoblocks REV D w/SI990Enh op amps > Martin Logan Impression 11A w/ dual Rythmik E15HP2 subs. Supra Cat8, JPS Labs Superconductor+ cables Link to comment
vortecjr Posted May 6, 2016 Author Share Posted May 6, 2016 Jesus, Ok, I'm able to play a DSD file from Roon (no HQ Player for now). Here is the DAC diag info for a DSD64 file: DAC description: xCORE USB Audio 2.0 20b1:3021 Diagnostic information for this DAC XMOS xCORE USB Audio 2.0 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio Playback: Status: Running Interface = 1 Altset = 2 Packet Size = 392 Momentary freq = 352795 Hz (0x2c.1970) Feedback Format = 16.16 Interface 1 Altset 1 Format: S24_3LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Interface 1 Altset 2 Format: S32_LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us Interface 1 Altset 3 Format: SPECIAL Channels: 2 Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us EDIT: BAH, I just discovered the DoP check mark box in the Roon Ready settings for the mR. I'm now playing DSD64 and 128 files using DoP directly from Roon as well as through HQ Player. So is there a way (or a reason) to send Native DSD to the DAC? Thanks! Not possible yet. As for the reason...some say you most have it, but only you can decide. FYI I'm just doing this fun:) SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted May 6, 2016 Author Share Posted May 6, 2016 Hi Jesus: Using HQPlayer/NAA I'm only able to get to DSD using DoP with my W4S DAC2 DSDse. Here are the diagnostics and custom dac info: USB output DAC description: 32bit 384kHz DSD Interface 27f7:1301 Diagnostic information for this DAC Wyred 4 Sound 32bit 384kHz DSD Interface at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio Playback: Status: Running Interface = 2 Altset = 1 Packet Size = 448 Momentary freq = 352799 Hz (0x2c.1990) Feedback Format = 16.16 Interface 2 Altset 1 Format: S32_LE Channels: 2 Endpoint: 5 OUT (ASYNC) Rates: 32000, 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000 Data packet interval: 125 us access: RW_INTERLEAVED format: S32_LE subformat: STD channels: 2 rate: 352800 (352800/1) period_size: 35280 buffer_size: 70560 0) USB Audio Class Digital alsa audio output interface `hw:0,0' - device name = 32bit 384kHz DSD Interface - interface name = USB Audio - usb audio class = 2 - isochronous asynchronous - character device = /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p - encoding formats = S32_LE - monitor file = /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/hw_params - stream file = /proc/asound/card0/stream0 Never had use DoP before! Help! Bob As-is it is not supported. W4S needs to update the firmware before we can get to work on it. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
Mike6743 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Which DAC(s) have u tried it with? It's hooked up to my NuPrime IDA-8 integrated modified by TDDS, doing DSD64 and DSD128, but am not getting DSD256 to work yet. It's in DLNA mode. Link to comment
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