vortecjr Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 Would there be any problem running two microrendu Always On on the same network? One on main system and another on home office system? Yes. I'm doing it right now. sonicorbiter.com was designed to support multiple Sonicorbiter based servers and endpoints at the same time. You can even rename the zones to keep things organized. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
firedog Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Black case for microrendu: Will you be willing to sell one of these to those of us who have an mR in a silver case? Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 Can run multizone with these. No problem Sent from my HUAWEI MT7-TL10 using Computer Audiophile mobile app Yes. The RoonReady and SqueezeLite output modes support multizone. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 Black case for microrendu: Will you be willing to sell one of these to those of us who have an mR in a silver case? The black cases will only be available during the black Friday sale. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
bunno77 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Let me think about this.... OK thank you Peach Audio Iso Transformer, Linn Akurate DSM, McIntosh MA2275 Paradigm 30th Anniversary Tributes, SVS SB13 Ultra x2, Dynaudio BM5A MKII Link to comment
R1200CL Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Correct. Can I have the Roon license on email right after ordering ? Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 Can I have the Roon license on email right after ordering ? Nope. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
JoseL Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 The black cases will only be available during the black Friday sale. Will the black cases be available some other time (soon)? Thanks JoseL Link to comment
R1200CL Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Another question. Probably wrong tread. But need an advice for Black Friday purchase. I use a Qnap for Roon. To access Roon from my iPad takes normally 1 to 3 seconds. Sometimes more. (Have Tidal). If purchase a Sonic Transporter i5, should I expect a faster response time ? Is the recommendation to have music stored on the Sonic Transporter (with SSD of cause) ? Is the power cord a separate one, or can you supply one EU version ? Will two LPS-1 be able to power the Sonic Transporter ? (5+7 V). Link to comment
bunno77 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Let me think about this.... Any decision on this? Thank you very much Sent from my HUAWEI MT7-TL10 using Computer Audiophile mobile app Peach Audio Iso Transformer, Linn Akurate DSM, McIntosh MA2275 Paradigm 30th Anniversary Tributes, SVS SB13 Ultra x2, Dynaudio BM5A MKII Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 Any decision on this? Thank you very much Sent from my HUAWEI MT7-TL10 using Computer Audiophile mobile app Just buy the Complete combo and leave a message in the comments section of the order that you want Roon/HQPlayer. Later you will be sent a separate PayPal invoice for $300. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 Another question. Probably wrong tread. But need an advice for Black Friday purchase. I use a Qnap for Roon. To access Roon from my iPad takes normally 1 to 3 seconds. Sometimes more. (Have Tidal). If purchase a Sonic Transporter i5, should I expect a faster response time ? Is the recommendation to have music stored on the Sonic Transporter (with SSD of cause) ? Is the power cord a separate one, or can you supply one EU version ? Will two LPS-1 be able to power the Sonic Transporter ? (5+7 V). I would expect so, but I have not used a Qnap for Roon. The SSD is pretty much mandatory and it was a recommendation from Roon. The power cord is a standard US version with an IEC connector on the PS end. We do not supply the EU version. For the power supply question you need to ask Uptone Audio. However, I'm not sure you need to go through that effort on the server. I would go with something simpler like the HD-Plex linear supply: Sonore - Home SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 Will the black cases be available some other time (soon)?Thanks No plans to offer it going forward. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
R1200CL Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I would expect so, but I have not used a Qnap for Roon. The SSD is pretty much mandatory and it was a recommendation from Roon. The power cord is a standard US version with an IEC connector on the PS end. We do not supply the EU version. For the power supply question you need to ask Uptone Audio. However, I'm not sure you need to go through that effort on the server. I would go with something simpler like the HD-Plex linear supply: Sonore - Home Thanks. Is you impression that Tidal also will sound better with the sT ? Michael Lavorgna test did only include local files I think. So that's why asking. Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 Thanks. Is you impression that Tidal also will sound better with the sT ? Michael Lavorgna test did only include local files I think. So that's why asking. I don't get involved in that sort of comparison. I think you are going to love it though:) SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
R1200CL Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Another thing. If by the Essential Roon Bundle, is it possible to add another i5 $500, and also if succeeding purchase the ultimate, can the deal be upgraded to a Essential Roon Bundle ? My reason for asking this is that my friend is buying the Ultimate, and I like have the sT [emoji3] Sent from my iPad using Computer Audiophile Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 Another thing. If by the Essential Roon Bundle, is it possible to add another i5 $500, and also if succeeding purchase the ultimate, can the deal be upgraded to a Essential Roon Bundle ? My reason for asking this is that my friend is buying the Ultimate, and I like have the sT [emoji3] Sent from my iPad using Computer Audiophile We could add a second sonicTransporter i5 to an Essential combo. Just buy the Essential combo and leave a message in the comments section of the order that you want a second sonicTransporter i5. Later you will be sent a separate PayPal invoice for the a second sonicTransporter i5. The price of the second sonicTransporter i5 will be determined at a later. We can't offer upgrades from one combo to another. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
JMack23 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 OK, realise I am a bit late to the party but just received my MicroRendu yesterday and thought prospective buyers might appreciate how it compares to the Auralic Aries which I used for almost 2 years prior. Should note my DAC is the Auralic Aries with LPS so there should be some extra synergy between these 2 Auralic components (in theory). First thing to say is that considering the MicroRendu is half the price of the Aries it compares very well performance-wise. First thing, this is amazingly compact and a joy to setup/use. Stability is superb, the Aries was a nightmare for me, wired or wireless, UPNP, Openhome, different routers, perhaps my unit has specific issues but it was always dropping out/completely disconnecting. The stability and just all round pleasant user experience of the MicroRendu alone might be enough to cause me to switch sides. I am using the TeddyPardo PSU straight off the bat, so I don't know how it might sound with a stock PSU. I am using a Cardas Clear USB cable and cheap ethernet cable I found in a drawer somewhere (awaiting a Supra CAT 8 cable coming) The USB cable is a definite improvement on the hard adapter, first conclusion to draw (this was easy) Squeezelite vs DNLA modes, if there is a difference it isn't massive but I will play with some of the oversampling options available via minimstream later. Using Squeezelite just because of the excellent Squeezecommander android app and Spotify support. Not tried playing music off a USB stick yet either (I believe this is possible with the MicroRendu?) It's a noticeable improvement on the Aries but wasn't really practical for me since all my music is on my NAS. OK, I am not a great believer in burn-in, I've had it running around 24hrs, if any improvements manifest themselves they will be slight so let's just assume it's reached the required burn-in time. One thing I will say is that I had this thing set up in 10 mins from opening the box streaming music which is to be commended. Of course now the all important criteria which products live and die by: sound quality. If I could describe the MicroRendu in one word I would say "clean". It's ability to extract detail is superb and noticeably better than the Aries. On Imogen Heap's Hide and Seek near the start there is a sound something like a plate crashing, it is heard on the Aries but with the MicroRendu it is like a light is shone on it. Just to show how emphatic this quality is there is a London Grammar song, I forget which but there is a random digital glitch on one of the tracks near the start, I listened to this album ad nauseum over the years I had my Aries, it wasn't that it was masked or faint, I literally never heard it, the Aries clearly wasn't capable of resolving this level of detail. It would be pleasing if I could say the MicroRendu outclasses the Aries in all departments, however I'm not able to go this far. One clear advantage the Aries has over the MircroRendu is soundstage, the Aries soundstage is wider, deeper, vocals in particular have more room to breathe. If I listen to a track like London Grammar's If you Wait the Aries just draws you in, it sounds heavenly and totally ethereal, the midrange I feel at times is a little better on the Aries (though this is really close) The MicroRendu has a more compact soundstage (maybe this suits other systems better, I can only speak for my own) it simply lacks the cohesion of the Aries, dare I say it at the risk of perhaps oversimplifying it, it sacrifices musicality for accuracy. Everything is a just a little more compact/reigned-in than the Aries. Bass is very tight and controlled, the Aries has more "slam" but on some tracks this can result in boominess and drowning out some of the other higher frequency ranges. Sibilance is non-existant on the MicroRendu, this is a clear win versus the Aries which suffers in varying degrees. Treble I give to the edge to the Aries, the MicroRendu treble is a little harsh, hi-hats for example sound more synthetic and as if they have been artifically boosted, whereas the Aries is much smoother( some might say rolled-off), strings sound more liquid for lack of a better word. It just sounds a little more believable on the Aries. I saw enough good things in the MicroRendu and I realise there is far more tweaking to be done to lift its performance to an even greater level. I think the categories it wins in are: a) Price (at more than half the price) b) better flexibility, use with Squeezelite etc c) better accuracy, for me this was emphatic across the board. d) stability and robustness, compared to the Aries this is a (pleasant!) night and day difference. Where it comes second best I feel is a) soundstage is definitely not what it is with the Aries, smaller and less "cohesive" b) treble is a little sharp, at times not real sounding (hi-hats) c) Aries has the better "musicality" overall but this difference is not huge and with some tweaking/performance optimisation can envision the gap narrowing. I was hoping the MicroRendu's performance would be comprehensively better than the Aries, enough so that I could sell my Aries. I will hold off for now, the MicroRendu will stay in my system as my prefered source and will see what benefits come from the CAT8 cable and maybe try HQPlayer and oversampling options for MinimServer. Overall the MicroRendu is a definite win, and perhaps a comparison to a product greater than twice its price is an unfair one. People coming from PC streaming, Squeezebox etc will be blown away by the performance of this thing. I think its level of performance merits a higher price, but hey not complaining Link to comment
bunno77 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 No plans to offer it going forward. I don't know about others but I have held off on both MR and sotm based on colour Peach Audio Iso Transformer, Linn Akurate DSM, McIntosh MA2275 Paradigm 30th Anniversary Tributes, SVS SB13 Ultra x2, Dynaudio BM5A MKII Link to comment
bunno77 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just buy the Complete combo and leave a message in the comments section of the order that you want Roon/HQPlayer. Later you will be sent a separate PayPal invoice for $300. I know this is a deal but there is roughly $700rrp difference between the 2 units Peach Audio Iso Transformer, Linn Akurate DSM, McIntosh MA2275 Paradigm 30th Anniversary Tributes, SVS SB13 Ultra x2, Dynaudio BM5A MKII Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 I know this is a deal but there is roughly $700rrp difference between the 2 units Were you thinking of the other combo? SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 I don't know about others but I have held off on both MR and sotm based on colour Remember these are about the size of a credit card plus ~3/4" tall and the disappear into the back of the rack. Anyway, this is your chance to get a black one. They do look really cool in black though:) SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
bunno77 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Were you thinking of the other combo? Sorry I mean between the AP and the Roon/HQPlayer Peach Audio Iso Transformer, Linn Akurate DSM, McIntosh MA2275 Paradigm 30th Anniversary Tributes, SVS SB13 Ultra x2, Dynaudio BM5A MKII Link to comment
bunno77 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Remember these are about the size of a credit card plus ~3/4" tall and the disappear into the back of the rack. Anyway, this is your chance to get a black one. They do look really cool in black though:) For me it will be visible but I am happy with black and that's why I will jump on this. I know in this crazy audio world people want a specific colour and I think it makes sense to offer both colours if plausible from a business point of view, there is a fair amount of interest in a black casing Peach Audio Iso Transformer, Linn Akurate DSM, McIntosh MA2275 Paradigm 30th Anniversary Tributes, SVS SB13 Ultra x2, Dynaudio BM5A MKII Link to comment
bunno77 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Ordered Peach Audio Iso Transformer, Linn Akurate DSM, McIntosh MA2275 Paradigm 30th Anniversary Tributes, SVS SB13 Ultra x2, Dynaudio BM5A MKII Link to comment
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