earnmyturns Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Even minimserver can be by-passed right? Just have BubbeUPnP Android app operating the uRendu in DLNA mode directly? The Android app sees the uRendu as a renderer and you can browse the NAS library from the Android app? I don't know about the QNAP NAS. The Synology NAS I use comes with a DLNA media server that works with BubbleUPnP and the microRendu. Minimserver is more functional (transcoding, more control on how the library shows up in BubbleUPnP). Link to comment
asdf1000 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I don't know about the QNAP NAS. The Synology NAS I use comes with a DLNA media server that works with BubbleUPnP and the microRendu. Minimserver is more functional (transcoding, more control on how the library shows up in BubbleUPnP). Yep the QNAP is the same. minimserver is quite handy. I just need to tweak it a bit more. Link to comment
firedog Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 He was referring to DACs that convert DSD to PCM because they are R2R ladder DACs. BTW the PS Audio DS converters native DSD to DoP (which is PCM) and then re-samples it back to some very high DSD rate. Jesus, isn't this a bit misleading? DoP is "regular" DSD in a PCM "shell" - AFAIK the DSD data isn't "converted" to PCM at all, and once the USB receiver accepts the stream, the DAC deals with it exactly asi it would with non-DoP DSD. That's why many DAC manufacturers consider DoP to be "native" playback of DSD, as the actual form of the DSD data isn't changed. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
vortecjr Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 The USB 1.0 on mytek 192 does not work neither. The DAC locked and play as it would on USB 1.0. But no sound output from the DAC. Can I return back to 2.2 so at least I can listen. No. Go to Settings / "the output mode you use" and select it and then press Save. Rem 1.0 is limited to 24/96. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Jesus, isn't this a bit misleading? DoP is "regular" DSD in a PCM "shell" - AFAIK the DSD data isn't "converted" to PCM at all, and once the USB receiver accepts the stream, the DAC deals with it exactly asi it would with non-DoP DSD. That's why many DAC manufacturers consider DoP to be "native" playback of DSD, as the actual form of the DSD data isn't changed. When you convert native DSD to DoP it is PCM. The resulting DoP file does contain all the original DSD information along with some new information, but it is PCM at that point in time. Anyway, my point was that strange things can happen inside a DAC. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
rlow Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Even minimserver can be by-passed right? Just have BubbeUPnP Android app operating the uRendu in DLNA mode directly? The Android app sees the uRendu as a renderer and you can browse the NAS library from the Android app? I know that the server can certainly be bypassed for streaming cloud services like Tidal - it's pretty frickin sweet I have to say. You can stream Tidal direct from your Android phone/tablet to the mRendu - it's like lossless Bluetooth! (with an Ethernet cable on the mRendu of course). Link to comment
Donivey Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 When people mention using Lumin wit Minimserver in the Dlna mode, are they talking about the Lumin hardware and/or the software. I don't have the hardware but downloaded the app for iPad. I'm not able to play a song, it says error: please select a Lumin. Anybody gotten this message? Thanks. Link to comment
d_elm Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Lumin control is looking for a renderer that supports Openhome protocol, an extension of DLNA from Linn. Run BubbleUPNP server where you run mimimServer to implement Openhome for the renderer. Link to comment
orgel Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 There is a mismatch on one file for it's driver. I have isolated the issue and we just need to rebuild the driver and test things. It's going to take a little while longer. Please use the USB 1.0 input in the mean time. Well, I'm pleased to have read about this issue. I thought my Mytek was fubar. (I've switched over to a direct FireWire connection until the issue is resolved.) --David Listening Room: Mac mini (Roon Core) > iMac (HQP) > exaSound PlayPoint (as NAA) > exaSound e32 > W4S STP-SE > Benchmark AHB2 > Wilson Sophia Series 2 (Details) Office: Mac Pro > AudioQuest DragonFly Red > JBL LSR305 Mobile: iPhone 6S > AudioQuest DragonFly Black > JH Audio JH5 Link to comment
ted_b Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Lumin control is looking for a renderer that supports Openhome protocol, an extension of DLNA from Linn. Run BubbleUPNP server where you run mimimServer to implement Openhome for the renderer. or on the uRendu, since it's there too. Just make sure you create an OH version of uRendu; just running BubbleServer is not enough. The instructions are on this and other threads numerous times. It's under the media remderer tab in the BubbleServer setup. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
vortecjr Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 If you updated this weekend and have an issue with a Mytek DAC (stereo 192/DSD and Manhattan) email me. FYI, the update process has been adjusted and these devices are working properly now. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
firedog Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 If you updated this weekend and have an issue with a Mytek DAC (stereo 192/DSD and Manhattan) email me at [email protected]. At least with the Brookyn and the Manhattan II they are now using a different USB input and driver, and issues with the older HW and drivers apparently are solved. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
vortecjr Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 At least with the Brookyn and the Manhattan II they are now using a different USB input and driver, and issues with the older HW and drivers apparently are solved. Are there two versions of the Manhattan DAC? I only see one firmware file which suggests to me they only have one version. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 I started a new thread called 'Sonore microRendu Ethernet Cables Observations Considerations and Commentary' and moved a few posts into to kick start things: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f26-sonore-sponsored/sonore-microrendu-ethernet-cables-observations-considerations-and-commentary-29842/ SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
firedog Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Are there two versions of the Manhattan DAC? I only see one firmware file which suggests to me they only have one version. There is a Manhattan II coming out which drops FW and uses the same USB as the Brooklyn. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
vortecjr Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 There is a Manhattan II coming out which drops FW and uses the same USB as the Brooklyn. That is great going forward, but there are a lot of the legacy Mytek DACs (stereo 192/DSD and Manhattan) around. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
hifi_swlon Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Interestingly, when I do a network scan (with fing) it fills the microrendu hardware manufacturer in as 'SolidRun'. Ah, ok, I see why this is now. The rendu uses solid run's imx6 SOM module. Roon lifetime > Mac Mini > ethernet > microRendu (RAAT) w/ Paul Hynes SR3 > Intona > Curious USB link > Devialet 250 Pro > PMC fact 8. Link to comment
EVOLVIST Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 New mR user here. I'm fact, I only got mine yesterday, with the SonicTransport i5. I suppose I'm one of those who fell into the trap that when listening through Roon, my DAVE, and HD800s, the presentation was bright af. Agonizing. I've since read that working the system for about 100hrs should cure that. Yeah? I suppose there's always the option of going with the upcoming Uptone linear. Do we even know when that's coming out? Anyway, my point? I guess welcome me to the mR crew. SonicTransporter i5 -> Linn KDS/3 -> M3a-800S -> EgglestonWorks Andra II Link to comment
rlow Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 What kind of USB cable are you running between mRendu and your Dac? Apparently it should very short if you want the low end to come through fully (ideally the hard adapter is best I guess, but I use a very short 7 inch Curious USB cable myself.) Link to comment
EVOLVIST Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 What kind of USB cable are you running between mRendu and your Dac? Apparently it should very short if you want the low end to come through fully (ideally the hard adapter is best I guess, but I use a very short 7 inch Curious USB cable myself.) I'm using the hard adapter. I like the idea of that very short run. I know some people who have used some high-end cables there, and the results are highly debatable. SonicTransporter i5 -> Linn KDS/3 -> M3a-800S -> EgglestonWorks Andra II Link to comment
muski Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Welcome to µR world! DAVE + µR—that's a killer setup. I also think some burn in and something like a Curious USB interconnect might help (detailed but not bright). Failing that, perhaps it's the HD800s? I really wonder what Focal Utopias would sound like in that setup... All I want for Xmas is a DAVE! Link to comment
André Gosselin Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Welcome to µR world! DAVE + µR—that's a killer setup. I also think some burn in and something like a Curious USB interconnect might help (detailed but not bright). Failing that, perhaps it's the HD800s? I really wonder what Focal Utopias would sound like in that setup... All I want for Xmas is a DAVE! Sorry, but what is a DAVE ? Link to comment
EVOLVIST Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Welcome to µR world! DAVE + µR—that's a killer setup. I also think some burn in and something like a Curious USB interconnect might help (detailed but not bright). Failing that, perhaps it's the HD800s? I really wonder what Focal Utopias would sound like in that setup... All I want for Xmas is a DAVE! Thanks! Well, I've never thought the HD800s sounded bright in any system - hearings scores of systems with them - but who knows. I'm on a list to demo the FUs, as well as the Nighthawks. One thing, though, and I don't know if it's a coincidence, I had my rig setup with a computer and the iUSB 3.0, powered by the iPower, and the sound was bright, so I took it out of the chain and it really toned down. Well, the mR is powered by the iPower, too, so I'm wondering if that has something to do with all of this brightness. SonicTransporter i5 -> Linn KDS/3 -> M3a-800S -> EgglestonWorks Andra II Link to comment
EVOLVIST Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Sorry, but what is a DAVE ? A Chord Electronics DAVE DAC, which is arguably the best DAC on the planet at any price. Arguably. Chord DAVE review | What Hi-Fi? SonicTransporter i5 -> Linn KDS/3 -> M3a-800S -> EgglestonWorks Andra II Link to comment
muski Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Well, the mR is powered by the iPower, too, so I'm wondering if that has something to do with all of this brightness. I think you're right. I noticed the same thing. Switching to an HD-PLEX LPS helped tone things down without loss of detail. Link to comment
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