Priaptor Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I'm giving the mailing list a 24 hours head start. I'll open up general sales on the website tomorrow afternoon. I see it says it supports up to DSD512. Is this with NAA? I am getting a T&A unit to try out DSD512 up sampling with HQP. I saw in another post it was limited to 256 so just looking for clarification. Also is there a list of DACS supported. My main DAC is a MSB Diamond Plus. Thanks Link to comment
Priaptor Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 To my knowledge the T+A requires Windows to play dsd512, the sonore is linux based.Unless T+A didn't update the software, I think the Rendu and the DAC8 are not working together with DSD512. Appreciate it. Yeah, I posted hastily as AFTER I reviewed the 1200 some odd posts, I found the answer to both my questions stuck in there. I still have a use for the device with my "portable rig" with my Mojo replacing my HUGO and will try it with my MSB and be a royal pain in the ass to them to provide Jesus with whatever they need to support NativeDSD 256 although as others have indicated there is probably not much of a benefit for that DAC. Link to comment
Priaptor Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 That is for native DSD. The list of devices that support native DSD is here: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f26-sonore-sponsored/sonore-sonicorbiter-se-and-microrendu-native-direct-stream-digital-support-27418/ Thanks. Just curious if MSB has responded to you regarding providing you with the info you need for microRendu to support their DirectDSD. While I understand that there is little if no benefit compared to DoP, I have recordings that do DSD256 and would be nice to be able to use your device with my MSB. Link to comment
Priaptor Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 First hook up the MSB to the microRendu and send me the output of the DAC Diagnostics GUI page. That might get us what we need. Will do as soon as I get my unit. Thanks Link to comment
Priaptor Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 This is correct. You also need the PlayDSD plug-in enabled. This will send DSD to SqueezeLite and SqueezeLite will send DSD/DoP to your device. Jesus, I finally got a chance to use it with my MSB Diamond Plus. You had indicated when I did, to send you the data sheet from the microrendu that shows the interaction between the two. No issue playing DoP and not that it is a biggy, but if you want to see the data sheet to try to implement direct DSD with MSB let me know where to send it. It is the best I have heard my MSB to date. Thanks Link to comment
Priaptor Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Post the complete output of Apps / DAC Diagnostics here:http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f26-sonore-sponsored/sonicorbiter-native-direct-stream-digital-support-27418/ Thanks Jesus Will do when I get home from work. Thanks. Link to comment
Priaptor Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Just email me. What is your email address. I thought I sent you an email with my MSB diagnostics page but I never heard back. Thanks Howie Link to comment
Priaptor Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I got your email and I submitted your DAC to the native DSD project. It will be supported soon. Fantastic. That's great Link to comment
Priaptor Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Hey Howie, Listening the microRendu with HQPlayer set to DSD128 sounds better here than straight Roon with the Analog DAC. I'm looking forward to DSD256 support. ROON is IMHO the worst player. I like either Roon-->HQP ( with no upsampling or filters) or JRiver the best. Roon as a player from an SQ standpoint doesn't cut it. Link to comment
Priaptor Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Have you checked that Roon is using a lossless signal path? Yes. It is definitely using a lossless path. Link to comment
Priaptor Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 What is your Roon setup, single PC? I have RoonServer on my main "hardcore" PC and either use Bridge with my CAPS. I have also tried it with my microrendu. Link to comment
Priaptor Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Just wondering as I have not found Roon sounding that bad. Maybe not the ultimate, but so far I have been satisfied. I am using a linear supply Pi2, I2s to a Digi+ SPDIF output as an endpoint. I also run a fiber network and a linear / Pico supply Xeon server running Server 2012r2 and Audiophile Optimizer. Convenience and features vs ultimate sound quality will always be a bit of a trade-off. Regards Bob Bob By no means did I mean to imply "bad" it's just in comparison to JRiver or HQPlayer as I currently have in my setup. I should have been more thorough. Sorry about that. With few exceptions Roon is the best front end; still waiting for filters by resolution and an "asset" button like in JRiver to view album inserts (PDF). Plus I am waiting for an update to the uRendu for optimum playback with my Quad USB card on my MSB Diamond V. I am currently waiting for a new replacement quad USB input for my newly updated DAC as I am having some driver issues which they think may be the result of an old or bad generation of quad USB input. I will know on Wednesday when the replacement arrives and I can play Roon through the uRendu (hopefully) even if DoP. However with my Diamond Plus IV I must say I found JRiver via my CAPs better. BUT I remain open minded and I want nothing more than a Roon-->uRendu to match what I am getting now. Coming off comparing to the T&A DAC 8 which is excellent the MSB is so good in my system it's hard to change my "optimal" settings BUT I remain open. Howie Link to comment
Priaptor Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 What PS are you using? BTW you won't have to wait to long for the native DSD update...it should available this week. Looking forward to it. Right now I am using the iFi PS. However, I have a dual rail Kaia that I will use (right now set up at 5v and 12v which I now use for my CAPS) or I will get a new Uptone LPS-1 when released. As to the MSB I am looking forward to it. I too hope the ID's are the same. Link to comment
Priaptor Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 There is room for improvement on the PS side of things, but your Kaia is not within spec. The Uptone LPS-1 should be out soon. Agree. If I find I can get rid of my CAPS I will get the Core Tech LPS redone to 7V. If not then I will get a different LPS. Link to comment
Priaptor Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 That is cool that they will rework it for you. Yeah he has done it twice for me in the past. Link to comment
Priaptor Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 The USB IDs came from a MSB Analog DAC, but they "should" be the same for the other USB models. If not we will have to update the Kernel again. No news to report on the Amenero Combo384 Module. Jesus, I am assuming when there is an update for the MSB native DSD it will be a general firmware update different than the current or will you be posting something specific for our DACS to update? Thanks Howie Link to comment
Priaptor Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Update your unit and give it a try. I need to clear an unrelated item before I make the official announcement. Jesus, Thanks. Got it running, however, I am having some issues after the update. Not sure if it is specific to my unit or a general issue. I couldn't get DLNA to work yet Roon worked fine. Finally removed the DLNA app, reinstalled it and still nothing. Finally shutting down the unit, turning it back on THEN attaching the USB cable already attached to my DAC enabled DLNA. Then tried to go back to Roon and had the same problem when going back to Roon. Before the update just a change in app was all that was required for all to be recognized without any rebooting/turning off, etc. Not sure if anything happened during the update as the screen just said "complete" after all the steps and the web app works fine and all apps show up correctly. Any comments? Is there are way to reflash the update? Thanks Link to comment
Priaptor Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Jesus, After upgrading to Version 2.3, now I can't get my mojo to do DSD256 in DLNA without major clicks if it plays at all. Using the same settings in JRiver I always did. Link to comment
Priaptor Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 We did not change anything with respect to the DLNA output in version 2.3. Also, as far know JRiver does not support DSD256 via DLNA. Something like Synology DiskStation or MinimServer will do the trick. Interesting. Thanks. Link to comment
Priaptor Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Just my updated experience. Got my LPS-1 for my uRendu for my MSB Diamond V. Was running it both DLNA and tried Roon endpoint and didn't like it as much compared to my Caps/Jriver/CoreTechLps/Jcat combo. Roon endpoint mode really didn't do it for me. Just switched to NAA without any upsampling of HQPlayer a totally different setup obviously compared to my T&A DAC DSD and it truly is wonderful. Not a huge quantum improvement of the Caps above using JRiver or in NAA but any improvement is welcome and this seems like the ticket for me. The LPS-1 has been burning in since Friday. Much happier today with this purchase as this was my last iteration before listing it for sale. Really excellent and probably the very first time I have heard anything top my Caps/Jcat/KaiaCoreTechLPS combination Link to comment
Priaptor Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Great...thanks for posting your findings here. It would have been nice to have the Uptone Audio LPS-1 available when the microRendu launched, but it just wasn't possible. Today was a breakthrough day. Thanks Great product Link to comment
Priaptor Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Jesus Finally put the time in and got rid of all bugs and got my uRendu running DLNA, my preference with the MSB Diamond V HOWEVER when I change DSD tracks or move forward or back in the track I am not getting a small click but a loud and powerful popping as though someone pushed a stylus on a record on a turntable. It is frightening. Playing same direct from my Caps is flawless without pops or any noise between tracks or panning. Playing Direct DSD and all resolutions showing as they should. Any hints? Link to comment
Priaptor Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 This boils down to how the DAC responds to the signal it is receiving. On a PC the manufacturer develops a ASIO driver for the unit. That driver doesn't exist for Mac or Linux. All we can do is send the DAC the bit perfect stream. It's up to the DAC to properly mute the signal between these user inputs. For whatever reason DoP solves the issue. With DoP no 256DSD it seems I can win Link to comment
Priaptor Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I experience the same exact thing with Roon + HQPlayer with uRendu running as NAA, but only in native DSD and not in DoP as Jesus pointed out. As I stated above DoP no go with DSD 256 Link to comment
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