mkrzych Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 Coming back to the subject I have decided finally to purchase 24/96 version of Suspended Night by Stanko Quartet after attending to his concert in Warsaw yesterday. It seems to be true high resolution recording like some other ECM Masters: -- Krzysztof Maj http://mkrzych.wordpress.com/ "Music is the highest form of art. It is also the most noble. It is human emotion, captured, crystallised, encased… and then passed on to others." - By Ken Ishiwata Link to comment
CatManDo Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Thanks Krzysztof. BTW, this album features, under the unglamourous title "Suspended Variation II", one of the grooviest, mesmerizing tracks released by ECM in the recent years Claude Link to comment
Iain Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 It's most likely a 24/96 recording. ECM records in various resolutions (24/48, 24/88, 24/96), depending on the studio, and releases them in that resolution. There was one hi-rez release from them that was withdrawn later from most sites, as it turned out to be upsampled: Enrico Rava "New York Days" was first released in 24/96 but was recorded in 24/44. In the spectrogram, there is no frequency above 22kHz. The 24/96 version is still available on Qobuz, but the 24/44 is the official one New York Days I think this shows that ECM cares about offering the recordings in their native resolution. The PCM resolution doesn't tell the whole story. Of utmost importance is the label reputation and the importance paid toward mastering and production quality. If the original signal source is bad, it makes no difference what recording type or resolution is used at a later date. http://www.soundonsound.com/ Link to comment
CatManDo Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 The PCM resolution doesn't tell the whole story. Of utmost importance is the label reputation and the importance paid toward mastering and production quality. If the original signal source is bad, it makes no difference what recording type or resolution is used at a later date. I fully agree with you. But the discussion here is about upsampled recordings and how to detect them. Upsampling is cheating, especially when stores fix the download price based on the resolution. 24/44 or 24/48 downloads (corresponding to the actual recording resolution) are less attractive from a selling point of view than 24/88 or 24/96 downloads, which made some labels or stores upsample them. In some cases the upsampling was not deliberate. For example, HDtracks offered 24/88 files which originate from a SACD rip (where the conversion from DSD to PCM is usually done in 24/88), when the original resolution of the recording was lower. (In addition to that, there was the problem of multiple successive format conversions, PCM recording --> DSD SACD --> PCM download) Claude Link to comment
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