erniejade Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 They both do different things to the chain so it depends on the rest of your system or source. That's why some people have said they don't hear much of a difference when they tried it out. My rig is an older HP laptop but, still an I7, and an external usb drive so the chain definitely has some noise to it from the lousy power supply on the laptop on down to the wall wart for the drive. If I had a dedicated audio digital source with a solid quiet power supply and SS drives inside that source, I bet the difference would have been a lot smaller. If I had to choose what had the bigger effect in sound, that would be the W4s. I 1000000% agree with the better power supply for the w4s. That was a night and day difference. Den: Kef LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Lumin D1, Cayin SCD50T, Jolida D9, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 7 IC Livingroom: T+A PA1530 r Integrated Amplifier, Innous Zen MKIII, L.K.S audio MH Da004, Tyler Acoustics Highland H2, High Fidelity Reveal IC, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 8 Speaker cable. Link to comment
roberto2 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Has anyone tried the W4s Recovery downstream an sMS-200? Any improvements? I did it. I use a Recovery between a Sotm SMS-200 and a Singer SU-1. It works very, very well. I tried without the RUR but my system sound much better with it. More space, more air, better soundstage. Sotm and Recovery are powered by a HDPlex linear power supply (9V for RUR and 12V for Sotm). Link to comment
No Disc Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I read this entire thread, thanks to all that contributed. I'm considering a RUR for my Curious cable fed Chord Mojo and wondering if the RUR benefits from a Curious USB feeding it, rather than just out of it? If I purchase a RUR second hand, how do I know if I am getting a Rev A or Rev B? Is there a sticker or model number to refer to? In terms of Aftermarket LPS for the RUR, as I understand it, the ifi LPS might be better than the stock, or maybe just different? The Uptone LPS is better it seems. What is the Cheap Chinese LPS I have seen mentioned? Thanks No Disc HD-PLEX LPS > SLK (Chinese) DC Power Cable > Mac Mini 2012 (Uptone MMK / SnakeOil OS) > LPS-1 > UpTone ISO Regen > USPCB > Chord Mojo > WireWorld Nano-Silver Eclipse > AudioEngine A2+ Link to comment
jrd1975 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Complete noddy question! Take it the iFi iPower 9v works with the Rev B-C RUR? W4S state "The Recovery requires between 6 and 9v and ~1A" And the iPower is 9v ~ 1.5A I am completely ignorant as to how one would work this out! Suspect it's simple if you know how.... Link to comment
audio.bill Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Complete noddy question! Take it the iFi iPower 9v works with the Rev B-C RUR? W4S state "The Recovery requires between 6 and 9v and ~1A" And the iPower is 9v ~ 1.5A I am completely ignorant as to how one would work this out! Suspect it's simple if you know how.... That should work fine since the rated voltage is a match and the current requirement is a minimum which the iPower exceeds. Link to comment
Elberoth Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Complete noddy question! Take it the iFi iPower 9v works with the Rev B-C RUR? W4S state "The Recovery requires between 6 and 9v and ~1A" And the iPower is 9v ~ 1.5A I am completely ignorant as to how one would work this out! Suspect it's simple if you know how.... Yes, no problem. Better still - get the LPS-1 PSU from UpTone Audio. Well worth the extra $$$. Adam PC: custom Roon server with Pink Faun Ultra OCXO USB card Digital: Lampizator Horizon DAC Amp: Dan D'Agostino Momentum Stereo Speakers: Magcio M3 Link to comment
jrd1975 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Yes, no problem. Better still - get the LPS-1 PSU from UpTone Audio. Well worth the extra $$$. Cheers Elberoth! I had been considering the LPS-1 but just unsure on really how much of an improvement it could make over and above the iPower???? Link to comment
Doak Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Cheers Elberoth! I had been considering the LPS-1 but just unsure on really how much of an improvement it could make over and above the iPower???? Yes, I have used iPower and now LPS-1. Love the sound I'm getting. Worth it for me. Doak's Audio System Link to comment
Amigoz Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 On 2017-02-01 at 3:44 PM, No Disc said: I read this entire thread, thanks to all that contributed. I'm considering a RUR for my Curious cable fed Chord Mojo and wondering if the RUR benefits from a Curious USB feeding it, rather than just out of it? If I purchase a RUR second hand, how do I know if I am getting a Rev A or Rev B? Is there a sticker or model number to refer to? In terms of Aftermarket LPS for the RUR, as I understand it, the ifi LPS might be better than the stock, or maybe just different? The Uptone LPS is better it seems. What is the Cheap Chinese LPS I have seen mentioned? Thanks No Disc There is a sticker on back of RUR - i have revision C and i'm selling it, if you are interested PM me, will make good price for it. Link to comment
tgb Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Hello, does it worth chaining 2 Recovery? thanks 2.1 basic stuff => 2 mains are Dynaudio Core59 + sub Dynaudio 18s Actives / digital AES in / active correction on PC side Passive daddy setup is dead Link to comment
thuandb Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Read AudioBacon review on RUR, Regen, Jitterbug, and ifi Nano. WS2019 Core Datacenter, dualPC, JPLAY Femto, AO3, Fidelizer Pro 8.8, MC2XY, IOS app. Link to comment
Chopin75 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Ok, I am trying to decide on getting the Intona but now I discover this cheaper W4S Recovery, another dilemma. Too many gadgets in computer audio! I read in multiple places that you can use both Intona + W4S, so I guess if I get one first I can always add another. I am not keen on using W4s because it requires PS and it seems LPS works best so then I would need to find another device and plug The intona seems very easy to use, just plug and go. I am using plain MacAir with nothing that isolates it from DAC, so I gather the Intona with galvanic isolation works best to completely isolate the computer noise from the DAC. But presumably the reclocking of W4S also helps?! That is despite having some reclocking in the Intona already ? Link to comment
erniejade Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 They do different things. The w4s i noticed the biggest difference. Den: Kef LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Lumin D1, Cayin SCD50T, Jolida D9, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 7 IC Livingroom: T+A PA1530 r Integrated Amplifier, Innous Zen MKIII, L.K.S audio MH Da004, Tyler Acoustics Highland H2, High Fidelity Reveal IC, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 8 Speaker cable. Link to comment
Popular Post One and a half Posted February 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Chopin75 said: Ok, I am trying to decide on getting the Intona but now I discover this cheaper W4S Recovery, another dilemma. Too many gadgets in computer audio! I read in multiple places that you can use both Intona + W4S, so I guess if I get one first I can always add another. I am not keen on using W4s because it requires PS and it seems LPS works best so then I would need to find another device and plug The intona seems very easy to use, just plug and go. I am using plain MacAir with nothing that isolates it from DAC, so I gather the Intona with galvanic isolation works best to completely isolate the computer noise from the DAC. But presumably the reclocking of W4S also helps?! That is despite having some reclocking in the Intona already ? There’s a new Intona being worked on right now. No idea when it will be released though. Chopin75 and asdf1000 1 1 AS Profile Equipment List Say NO to MQA Link to comment
Wyred 4 Sound Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Hello and thanks for the interest in our Recovery unit. The iFi iPower does indeed work fine with our unit. We appreciate all of the feedback we get on our Recovery. It is almost universally praised and we feel the finest of the USB reclockers available. Link to comment
Chopin75 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Thanks all for all your comments! Link to comment
Assisi Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I have and still use an Intona. I did have a W4S but sold it and I have tried a Regen. I tried them separately and in combination. All three of these devices did make a difference. However not every difference is beneficial. For me, only the Intona provided a benefit. Of course the experience of others may be different depending upon specific situations. John Link to comment
Chopin75 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Hi John, Thanks for your comment. The Intona and probably all others could be system specific. Did you try the ISO Regen ? And used the LPS they have ? W4S also benefits much from LPS I heard. Adrian Link to comment
Assisi Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Chopin75 said: Hi John, Thanks for your comment. The Intona and probably all others could be system specific. Did you try the ISO Regen ? And used the LPS they have ? W4S also benefits much from LPS I heard. Adrian HI Adrian, I have not tried the ISO Regen. I am aware of its existence but not in a hurry to get one. When I had the W4S I also had a purpose built LPS. At the moment the chain is Antipodes DX Server, Intona and then Berkeley Alpha USB to the DAC. For me that is probably enough. John Link to comment
mr macgee Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Sort of resurrecting this thread again. I have to say a big Thank You to W4S for responding to my very recent emails and replying back to me with very useful information. Have to say it's really nice when companies like Wyred4sound still offering great customer service even when it's a for small item (Recovery) and I see that it's still offered in there current product line. I recently acquired a Recovery (V.3) and this thread has inspired me to build a small rechargeable battery supply for it. When I'm finished with the build and test it in my smaller system(w/battery powered rDAC); I'll post pics and results in this thread. I'm looking forward to trying out this little guy and see what it can do. Lyngdorf TDA2200 int.\ Accuphase E-211 int.~ Totem \Mani's & "The One\" monitors~Bryston BDA-1 DAC~Halide HD DAC~Micromega Transport~AnTi cables & Synergistic Research cables~JohnBlue JB3~(mod) Totem orig. Model One monitors[br]Mini Mac,1.8ghz Core 2 Duo Link to comment
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