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There is a better one than the Intona and the Uptone.

 

I have it and it's 100% transparent, it just eliminates the noise, it costs the same as the Intona but is 3.0 compatible and looks prettier with an aluminum case  which is also better from a technical perspective (heat dissipation, shielding etc).

 

From what i have heard the Intona isn't fully transparent.

 

https://shop.alldaq.com/Schnittstellen/USB-Isolatoren/ALLDAQ-ADQ-USB-3-0-ISO-PS::143382.html?MODsid=kvdsb1meahdmbsjb7d7gjrk5j5

 

There is a review on youtube from  Hans Beekhuyzen Channel, i can confirm that his review is pretty accurate coincides with my experience. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ho32Ht1njk

 

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This model is not approved for medical applications.

 

i prefer a product approved for it as audiofool is really a medical application 😁


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and again ,      fresh members posting 3 post just about it  looks like more another fake advertising than a serious rewiew.

business  strike again..😁


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17 hours ago, Yoshimitsu said:

From what i have heard the Intona isn't fully transparent.

 

 

17 hours ago, Yoshimitsu said:

There is a better one than the Intona and the Uptone.

 

 

So it's 'better' without actually directly comparing them yourself?

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1 hour ago, juanitox said:

and again ,      fresh members posting 3 post just about it  looks like more another fake advertising than a serious rewiew.

business  strike again..😁

Lol no

 

And you shouldn't do such accusations out of the blue. Just trying to help. I had a ground loop with my PC so i did a lot of research. Just sharing what i found

 

I payed 264usd for that thing here in Switzerland, but the Intona would have costed pretty much the same. If i was on a higher budget i would have bought an USB isolator from Japan, because i am sucker for japanese stuff, but i managed to resist.

 

There are other isolators too, i am gonna list them from cheapest to most expensive:

 

1. Delock USB 2.0 Isolator with 3 kV Isolation, around 141.00 USD but has no reclocking

https://www.delock.de/produkte/G_62982/merkmale.html?setLanguage=en

https://www.reichelt.de/delock-usb-2-0-isolator-with-3-kv-isolation-delock-62982-p214749.html?r=1

 

2.  Wyred 4Sound Recovery around 150usd

https://wyred4sound.com/products/digital-converters/recovery

 

3. Ciúnas Audio USB Hub 200 euroes, however the ground isn't isolated so it's no good if you have a ground loop, you have 30 days trial which is pretty neat. if i understood it correctly it runs with rechargable batteries, to avoid noise from a power supply

https://www.ciunas.biz/product-page/iso-hub-internal-power?lang=de

 

4. USB 2.0 Hi-Speed Isolator around 239.00 USD without taxes

https://pro.intona.eu/en/products/7054

 

5. Alldaq USB 3.0 SuperSpeed-Isolator

https://www.alldaq.com/adq-iso/

 

6.USB-029H2-RP 290.00 USD, from a japanese company

https://www.fa.hdl.co.jp/en/plink/usb-029h2-rp.html

 

7. Uptone ISo regen 325 usd

https://uptoneaudio.com/products/iso-regen

 

8. IFDI nano iGalvanic3.0 around 350usd

https://ifi-audio.com/products/nano-igalvanic3-0/

 

 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, John769 said:

 

 

So it's 'better' without actually directly comparing them yourself?

Well no i didn't compare them directly myself but, from what i have read from people that bought it that the Intona adds a sort of unnatural sheen to the sound, that's what Manisandher said in the thread here https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/34683-usb-audio-cracked-finally/#comments, among others who have bought it.

 

The Alldaq on the otherhand is 100% transparent it doesn't add anything. It costs the same as the Intona but is USB 3.0 compatible + aluminum casing which is always better.

 

at the end of the day i don't care

 

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Yoshimitsu might be discussing the older Intona Model 7054 that has a plastic case. The 2 newer Intona models; USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 have aluminum cases and improved specs compared to the 7054.

 

 


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2 minutes ago, Yoshimitsu said:

 

100euros more maybe better maybe not

 

Only mentioned because it's USB 3.0 and in a metal box and you said "but is 3.0 compatible and looks prettier with an aluminum case  which is also better from a technical perspective (heat dissipation, shielding etc)."

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2 minutes ago, Em2016 said:

 

Only mentioned because it's USB 3.0 and in a metal box and you said "but is 3.0 compatible and looks prettier with an aluminum case  which is also better from a technical perspective (heat dissipation, shielding etc)."

 

It costs 110 dollars less than the intona so it might still be the better buy, if we would assume that they perform equally well.

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6 minutes ago, Yoshimitsu said:

if we would assume that they perform equally well.

 

If we always assume that, then of course there is no problem - cheaper is always better. 🙂

 

I am also not sure what your prior statement about "100% transparent" means in a situation where we are presumably trying to block noise.

 

But in any case, enjoy your isolator, and thank you for adding to the list that people might consider. If it is possible to open the case and take a photo of what is inside, particularly the PCB, that would be interesting.


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7 minutes ago, Jud said:

 

If we always assume that, then of course there is no problem - cheaper is always better. 🙂

 

I am also not sure what your prior statement about "100% transparent" means in a situation where we are presumably trying to block noise.

 

But in any case, enjoy your isolator, and thank you for adding to the list that people might consider. If it is possible to open the case and take a photo of what is inside, particularly the PCB, that would be interesting.

 

I  could do that, what i mean by 100% transparent,  it doesn't alter/color the sound, it simply removes all the noise and puts the signal back to it's original clock.

 

In a system where there is very little noise, let's say you are using a battery powered laptop and you have good cables, a good dac... with or without the alldaq isolator there might be very little difference in sound quality.

 

But if you are using a desktop PC and a lot of noise is getting carried over via USB the difference will be much bigger. It simply not doing anything to the sound signature

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2 hours ago, Yoshimitsu said:

 

I  could do that, what i mean by 100% transparent,  it doesn't alter/color the sound, it simply removes all the noise and puts the signal back to it's original clock.

 

In a system where there is very little noise, let's say you are using a battery powered laptop and you have good cables, a good dac... with or without the alldaq isolator there might be very little difference in sound quality.

 

But if you are using a desktop PC and a lot of noise is getting carried over via USB the difference will be much bigger. It simply not doing anything to the sound signature

 

The concept of an "original clock" may not be all that helpful. What matters is the clocking process in the DAC, and upstream signal integrity might conceivably affect that.


One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller

The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein

Computer, Audirvana -> router -> 2 Cisco switches connected by optical Ethernet -> microRendu -> USPCB -> ISO Regen (powered by LPS-1) -> Ghent JSSG360 USB cable -> Pro-Ject Pre Box S2 DAC -> Spectral DMC-12 & DMA-150 -> Vandersteen 3A Signature.

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I think i was wrong, reclocking is one of those terms that gets misused a lot. Anyway most usb isolators use reclocking, intona and alldaq included, same thing.

 

The japanese one on the other hand, regenerates (repeats) the signal with an IC repeater, I think that's a more costly approach .

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