KDinsmore Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I just bought this from HDTracks in 24/96 passing on the physical issue with BD disc. Haven't listened yet. What I'm wondering is if this download is the same Stereo file as from the BD? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: The Allman Brothers Band / Idlewild South Deluxe Edition -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR11 0.00 dB -12.48 dB 4:06 01-Revival DR10 0.00 dB -11.92 dB 3:32 02-Don't Keep Me Wonderin' DR10 0.00 dB -12.08 dB 3:00 03-Midnight Rider DR10 0.00 dB -11.69 dB 6:59 04-In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed DR11 0.00 dB -12.47 dB 4:58 05-Hoochie Coochie Man DR12 0.00 dB -13.75 dB 4:03 06-Please Call Home DR10 0.00 dB -11.64 dB 4:21 07-Leave My Blues At Home DR11 0.00 dB -13.01 dB 4:10 08-Statesboro Blues (Session Outtake Remix) DR10 0.00 dB -11.76 dB 3:42 09-One More Ride (Session Outtake) DR10 0.00 dB -12.08 dB 3:43 10-Midnight Rider (Alternate Mix) DR10 -0.19 dB -12.67 dB 10:28 11-Dreams (Live At Ludlow Garage/1970) DR11 -0.17 dB -13.46 dB 8:38 12-Statesboro Blues (Live At Ludlow Garage/1970) DR9 -0.04 dB -11.80 dB 4:52 13-Touble No More (Live At Ludlow Garage/1970) DR10 -0.12 dB -12.76 dB 5:47 14-Dimples (Live At Ludlow Garage/1970) DR11 -0.26 dB -12.94 dB 4:20 15-Every Hungry Woman (Live At Ludlow Garage/1970) DR12 -0.16 dB -14.90 dB 9:16 16-I'm Gonna Move To The Outskirts Of Town (Live At Ludlow Garage/1970) DR10 -0.15 dB -13.22 dB 5:33 17-Hoochie Coochie Man (Live At Ludlow Garage/1970) DR11 -0.26 dB -13.49 dB 15:03 18-In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed (Live At Ludlow Garage/1970) DR12 -0.07 dB -14.79 dB 45:12 19-Mountain Jam (Live At Ludlow Garage/1970) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 19 Official DR value: DR11 Samplerate: 96000 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 24 Bitrate: 4610 kbps Codec: FLAC Furutech GTX-D, GTX Wall Plate,106-D Cover > NCF Clearline >Custom Computer>J River [Current] > Curious Cable Evolved USB > Chord Hugo MScaler > WAVE Storm Dual BNC> Chord DAVE>DCA Stealth>my ears > audiophile brain Link to comment
craighartley Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 This is another album that HRA are only offering at 24/44.1 because they say that the supplied 25/96 files are upsampled. Link to comment
KDinsmore Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 What? Furutech GTX-D, GTX Wall Plate,106-D Cover > NCF Clearline >Custom Computer>J River [Current] > Curious Cable Evolved USB > Chord Hugo MScaler > WAVE Storm Dual BNC> Chord DAVE>DCA Stealth>my ears > audiophile brain Link to comment
craighartley Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Sorry for accidentally typing 25/96 instead of 24/96. In referring to the http://www.highreaudio.com site: https://m.highresaudio.com/artist.php?abid=500309 Link to comment
firedog Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I bought the download. It sounds good. Better than streaming from Tidal. But not fantastic SQ - probably the original tape was nothing special. The drums and bass are a little buried in the mix. If you like the Allmans, it's a worthwhile buy. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
KDinsmore Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 I got this from SH Forums. A BD downmix and much better DR foobar2000 1.3.6 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1 log date: 2015-12-07 20:39:01 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: The Allman Brothers Band / Idlewild South (BD Downmix) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR14 -0.95 dB -17.71 dB 4:09 01-Revival DR11 -1.49 dB -16.08 dB 3:32 02-Don't Keep Me Wonderin' DR13 -1.84 dB -17.53 dB 3:30 03-Midnight Rider DR12 -1.51 dB -16.45 dB 6:57 04-In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed DR12 -1.69 dB -16.35 dB 4:57 05-Hoochie Coochie Man DR13 -1.86 dB -18.30 dB 4:07 06-Please Call Home DR12 -2.89 dB -17.99 dB 4:29 07-Leave My Blues At Home DR14 -2.13 dB -19.25 dB 4:09 08-Statesboro Blues (Session Outtake) DR12 -2.21 dB -17.63 dB 8:20 09-In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed (Alternate Take) DR12 -1.56 dB -17.43 dB 3:51 10-One More Ride (Session Outtake) DR13 -1.48 dB -16.98 dB 3:52 11-Midnight Rider (Alternate Mix) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 11 Official DR value: DR12 Samplerate: 96000 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 24 Bitrate: 4608 kbps Codec: PCM ================================================================ Furutech GTX-D, GTX Wall Plate,106-D Cover > NCF Clearline >Custom Computer>J River [Current] > Curious Cable Evolved USB > Chord Hugo MScaler > WAVE Storm Dual BNC> Chord DAVE>DCA Stealth>my ears > audiophile brain Link to comment
KDinsmore Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 Well that answers the question I had and makes me unhappy with HDT again. Furutech GTX-D, GTX Wall Plate,106-D Cover > NCF Clearline >Custom Computer>J River [Current] > Curious Cable Evolved USB > Chord Hugo MScaler > WAVE Storm Dual BNC> Chord DAVE>DCA Stealth>my ears > audiophile brain Link to comment
Jud Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Well that answers the question I had and makes me unhappy with HDT again. But it's a downmix, not necessarily the same as the stereo tracks. What I think you would need are the stereo tracks from the BD to determine how/if the HDTracks download corresponds to it. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
firedog Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I got this from SH Forums. A BD downmix and much better DR foobar2000 1.3.6 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1 log date: 2015-12-07 20:39:01 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: The Allman Brothers Band / Idlewild South (BD Downmix) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR14 -0.95 dB -17.71 dB 4:09 01-Revival DR11 -1.49 dB -16.08 dB 3:32 02-Don't Keep Me Wonderin' DR13 -1.84 dB -17.53 dB 3:30 03-Midnight Rider DR12 -1.51 dB -16.45 dB 6:57 04-In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed DR12 -1.69 dB -16.35 dB 4:57 05-Hoochie Coochie Man DR13 -1.86 dB -18.30 dB 4:07 06-Please Call Home DR12 -2.89 dB -17.99 dB 4:29 07-Leave My Blues At Home DR14 -2.13 dB -19.25 dB 4:09 08-Statesboro Blues (Session Outtake) DR12 -2.21 dB -17.63 dB 8:20 09-In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed (Alternate Take) DR12 -1.56 dB -17.43 dB 3:51 10-One More Ride (Session Outtake) DR13 -1.48 dB -16.98 dB 3:52 11-Midnight Rider (Alternate Mix) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 11 Official DR value: DR12 Samplerate: 96000 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 24 Bitrate: 4608 kbps Codec: PCM ================================================================ Sorry, I didn't understand. The above DR is from a Downmix of a multichannel Blue Ray? Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
KDinsmore Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 That's what the guy on SH said. But I understood that the BD has a stereo mix. Furutech GTX-D, GTX Wall Plate,106-D Cover > NCF Clearline >Custom Computer>J River [Current] > Curious Cable Evolved USB > Chord Hugo MScaler > WAVE Storm Dual BNC> Chord DAVE>DCA Stealth>my ears > audiophile brain Link to comment
firedog Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 foobar2000 1.3.8 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.0 log date: 2015-12-08 22:46:34 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: The Allman Brothers Band / Idlewild South (Deluxe Edition Remastered) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR11 0.00 dB -12.43 dB 4:06 01-Revival DR11 0.00 dB -11.92 dB 3:32 02-Don't Keep Me Wonderin' DR10 0.00 dB -12.08 dB 3:00 03-Midnight Rider DR10 0.00 dB -11.69 dB 6:59 04-In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed DR11 0.00 dB -12.48 dB 4:58 05-Hoochie Coochie Man DR12 -0.09 dB -13.75 dB 4:03 06-Please Call Home DR10 0.00 dB -11.64 dB 4:21 07-Leave My Blues At Home DR11 0.00 dB -13.01 dB 4:10 08-Statesboro Blues DR10 0.00 dB -11.70 dB 3:42 09-One More Ride DR10 -0.01 dB -12.08 dB 3:43 10-Midnight Rider DR10 -0.19 dB -12.67 dB 10:28 11-Dreams DR11 -0.14 dB -13.46 dB 8:38 12-Statesboro Blues DR9 -0.05 dB -11.81 dB 4:52 13-Touble No More DR10 -0.12 dB -12.76 dB 5:47 14-Dimples DR11 -0.26 dB -12.94 dB 4:20 15-Every Hungry Woman DR12 -0.20 dB -14.91 dB 9:16 16-I'm Gonna Move To The Outskirts Of Town DR10 -0.23 dB -13.19 dB 5:33 17-Hoochie Coochie Man DR11 -0.23 dB -13.50 dB 15:03 18-In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed DR12 0.00 dB -14.79 dB 45:12 19-Mountain Jam -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 19 Official DR value: DR11 Samplerate: 44100 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 24 Bitrate: 1616 kbps Codec: FLAC ============================================================== This is the stereo over at HRA; if it is the same material it seems it is slightly more compressed. Doesn't look like a huge difference to me. Doesn't have that "super compressed" sound to me. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
eatapc Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Just bought the HD release today. Dowd's recordings are not audiophile calibre, but this is an excellent remastering. Good frequency balance, improved dynamics, better transparency and excellent stage width -- outside the edges of my speakers, in fact. The outtakes and Ludlow Garage tracks make this well worth the money. Mac Mini, Pure Music, iTunes, Lynx Hilo, Merrill Taranis amp, Seta Piccola phono preamp, Phil Jones Platinum Reference One speakers, Sennheiser HD 600 headphones. Link to comment
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