tonyking Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Nice to see a major act release in 192/24, *coughs* Adele. Available on Qobuz at €13.49. Let's hope it's not crushed to death! Link to comment
jtm Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 In Germany highresaudio.com only offers the 48/24 version at 15.00 Euro ... Link to comment
burnspbesq Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 HDTracks has the 192/24 at its usual, outrageous price of USD 24.99 (USD 17.99 for 96/24). Office: MacBook Pro - Audirvana Plus - Resonessence Concero - Cavailli Liquid Carbon - Sennheiser HD 800. Travel/Portable: iPhone 7 or iPad Pro - AudioQuest Dragonfly Red - Audeze SINE or Noble Savant Link to comment
firedog Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Nice to see a major act release in 192/24, *coughs* Adele. Available on Qobuz at €13.49. Let's hope it's not crushed to death! I will be shocked if it isn't. Everything else they've released in the last few years has been compressed to death, including hi-res. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
new_media Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 HDTracks has the 192/24 at its usual, outrageous price of USD 24.99 (USD 17.99 for 96/24). $19.99 for 24/192 on Pono. Link to comment
tmtomh Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I will be shocked if it isn't. Everything else they've released in the last few years has been compressed to death, including hi-res. Yes, that's true. When it comes to the sonics, it's Garbage In Garbage Out with Coldplay I'm afraid. It's one discography where I can't see any point shelling out extra money for high-res. Link to comment
wwaldmanfan Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 According to whoever posted it on the Dynamic Range Database website, the 24/96 download of the new Coldplay album is DR 5. Link to comment
tmtomh Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 According to whoever posted it on the Dynamic Range Database website, the 24/96 download of the new Coldplay album is DR 5. Ouch! Link to comment
ChrisG Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 It's crushed. Don't bother with the hi-res version - Album list - Dynamic Range Database ChrisG Bend, OR Link to comment
jtm Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Yeah, this might be the reason why highresaudio.com has added Zur Info: wir bieten dieses Album in der nativen Abtastrate von 48 kHz, 24-Bit an. Die uns zur Verfügung gestellte 96 und 192 kHz-Version wurde hochgerechnet und bietet keinen hörbaren Mehrwert! "For your info: we offer this album in native 48/24 resolution. The 96k and 192k version offered to us is up-sampled and offers no audible benefit." https://www.highresaudio.com/artist.php?abid=500697 Chapeau for these clear words ! Thank you HRA. Link to comment
wgscott Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 How refreshingly devoid of b.s. Link to comment
tonyking Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 if true, it is disappointing that HDtracks and Qobuz are still selling upsampled downloads. Link to comment
JoeWhip Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 You have to love the folks at Highresaudio. They don't sell the new verve remasters of the Oscar Peterson Trio at 24/192 as they advise that after listening, they don't sound any better than the 24/96 version that they do sell. Refreshing that they don't see the need to take every last buck they can from you. It would be great if they all felt that way or at least listened to what they got in for sale. Link to comment
Boris75 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I bought the 24/192 from Qobuz, and the dynamic range is a joke: foobar2000 1.2.9 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1log date: 2015-12-04 21:17:38 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Coldplay / A Head Full Of Dreams (192kHz/24bit) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR4 0.00 dB -6.18 dB 3:44 01-A Head Full Of Dreams DR4 0.00 dB -5.37 dB 3:49 02-Birds DR5 0.00 dB -7.48 dB 4:19 03-Hymn For The Weekend DR5 0.00 dB -6.78 dB 4:43 04-Everglow DR5 0.00 dB -5.89 dB 4:24 05-Adventure Of A Lifetime DR5 0.00 dB -6.94 dB 4:28 06-Fun (feat. Tove Lo) DR7 -4.36 dB -14.46 dB 1:52 07-Kaleidoscope DR4 0.00 dB -6.25 dB 6:17 08-Army Of One DR5 0.00 dB -6.24 dB 4:31 09-Amazing Day DR10 -3.72 dB -20.45 dB 1:00 10-Colour Spectrum DR4 0.00 dB -6.84 dB 6:45 11-Up&Up -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 11 Official DR value: DR5 Samplerate: 192000 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 24 Bitrate: 4960 kbps Codec: FLAC ================================================================================ I very much doubt high-res brings any benefit to this album. My advice would be to get the redbook. By the way, I find it good-quality pop rock, not on a par with Mylo Xyloto or Viva la Vida, but as interesting as Ghost Stories (though very different: a Head Full of Dreams is more pure-pop-oriented, when Ghost Stories had a stronger flavour of electro-pop), and definitely better to me than their first albums (I am not very fond of indie rock). Link to comment
jtm Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 You have to love the folks at Highresaudio. They don't sell the new verve remasters of the Oscar Peterson Trio at 24/192 as they advise that after listening, they don't sound any better than the 24/96 version that they do sell. Refreshing that they don't see the need to take every last buck they can from you. It would be great if they all felt that way or at least listened to what they got in for sale. Hey Joe, this attitude is exactly what I am missing with all the folks from various streaming or download platforms who claim "they care about music" ... At least the guys at HRA are honest music lovers like us! Link to comment
firedog Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Prices at HRA tend to be high (usually) but I'm going to buy more from them because they are repeatedly informing us when higher res and more expensive versions of an album aren't worthwhile. They deserve some business for their approach. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Gussy Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 To be fair to Qobuz, if you buy the Hi-Res version of an album they do offer a variety of lower resolutions which you can download at no extra cost if you want. In the case of the new Coldplay album I can confirm that there´s hardly any audible difference between the 24/192 and 16/44. Oh well.... As regards HRA I was interested to read the comments above - so I had a browse of their website and the first thing I saw was Fleetwood Mac / Tusk offered at 24/96. Surely not.....! Link to comment
firedog Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 To be fair to Qobuz, if you buy the Hi-Res version of an album they do offer a variety of lower resolutions which you can download at no extra cost if you want. In the case of the new Coldplay album I can confirm that there´s hardly any audible differenc e between the 24/192 and 16/44. Oh well.... As regards HRA I was interested to read the comments above - so I had a browse of their website and the first thing I saw was Fleetwood Mac / Tusk offered at 24/96. Surely not.....! If its sourced from the master tape, why not? I have a 24 96 rip of a FWM DVD rip, and it sonnds great. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Gussy Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 If its sourced from the master tape, why not? I have a 24 96 rip of a FWM DVD rip, and it sonnds great. I'm 99% sure that Tusk was an early digital recording at 16bit/50Hz.....(could be wrong...) Link to comment
wgscott Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 if true, it is disappointing that HDtracks and Qobuz are still selling upsampled downloads. Can't speak for Qobuz, but for HDtracks, the standard policy would be to deny it was up-sampled and blame/slander the customer. Link to comment
Boris75 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 By the way, the FT of London had some pretty unkind words, and only two stars (out of 5), for this album: http://on.ft.com/1NJJXvL Rock’s loss is not pop’s gain. Link to comment
peter73 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Nice to see a major act release in 192/24, *coughs* Adele. Available on Qobuz at €13.49. Let's hope it's not crushed to death! "A Head Full of Dreams" is their weakest album so far IMO. It is also the worst sounding by far, regardless of the resolution. Link to comment
Boris75 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 "A Head Full of Dreams" is their weakest album so far IMO. De gustibus et coloribus non disputandum, but my preference is very different: while it is horrible soundwise, this album is among Coldplay's top three. My personal ranking is: Mylo Xyloto Viva la Vida A Head Full of Dreams Ghost Stories (A Sky Full of Stars is a really great song IMO) X&Y A Rush of Blood ro the Head Parachutes (the lack of AutoTune is really painful to my ears on this album - AutoTune is one of the best things that happened to pop music in a long time) Link to comment
tonyking Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 I think A Rush of Blood to the Head is a masterpiece and one I would love to have in native 192/24 without volume compression! I think this is one of the best pop/rock albums of the 21st Century. Next I would have Viva la Vida, Parachutes and Mylo Xyloto. Good albums. Then A Head Full of Dreams and lastly Ghost Stories and X&Y which despite maybe one good track each are awful albums. Link to comment
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