Boris75 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Inspired by Wgscott's nice thread about power cords, I am seeking your advice about where I should relocate to get more air around instruments, a darker background, and firmer bass: close to a coal, hydro, biomass, nuclear or other power plant? I did not put windmills on the list, because their hum would raise the noise floor, and I want to listen to music also when there is no wind. By the same logic, I deleted solar from my initial list, as I would like to keep contributing to the "Album of the Evening" thread. If the last 6ft matter, I guess the first mile should too. Everything matters in audio, as we all know. Link to comment
mordante Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Nice fail at troll attempt 2/10 [br] Link to comment
kilroy Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Wack job Good example of the type of provocative and meaningless post that could be moderated out. Link to comment
Boris75 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Wack job Good example of the type of provocative and meaningless post that could be moderated out. What a good sense of humour Link to comment
Boris75 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Nice fail at troll attempt 2/10 Why should the generation of power matter less than the last six feet of copper cable before the AC/DC transformer? Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 At least in the UK you can't control this... in fact your power doesn't come from just one power station (unless you are off the grid with your own private generation facility). Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
zerung Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Coming to a garage near you. Tesla powerwall....yup, can even link to the solar cells. Qnap NAS (LPS) >UA ETHER REGEN (BG7TBL Master Clock) > Grimm MU1 > Mola Mola Tambaqui /Meridian 808.3> Wavac EC300B >Tannoy Canterbury SE HP Rig ++ >Woo WES/ > Stax SR-009, Audeze LCD2 Link to comment
sbgk Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Inspired by Wgscott's nice thread about power cords, I am seeking your advice about where I should relocate to get more air around instruments, a darker background, and firmer bass: close to a coal, hydro, biomass, nuclear or other power plant?I did not put windmills on the list, because their hum would raise the noise floor, and I want to listen to music also when there is no wind. By the same logic, I deleted solar from my initial list, as I would like to keep contributing to the "Album of the Evening" thread. If the last 6ft matter, I guess the first mile should too. Everything matters in audio, as we all know. a cottage miles from anywhere with you're own generator would be best, then you can enjoy playing your organ. There is no harm in doubt and skepticism, for it is through these that new discoveries are made. Richard P Feynman http://mqnplayer.blogspot.co.uk/ Link to comment
Boris75 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 a cottage miles from anywhere with you're own generator would be best, then you can enjoy playing your organ. Great recommendation, many thanks. Calcants would allow me to play my organ with no electrical interference whatsoever. Any volunteers? Link to comment
Boris75 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 (unless you are off the grid with your own private generation facility). This is probably the ultimate audiophile improvement to a system. Against this benchmark, Moon Audio Opulence speakers are a real bargain, great value for money even. Link to comment
wgscott Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Wack job Good example of the type of provocative and meaningless post that could be moderated out. Stalking posts where direct threats are made against participants are ok, but ones that harmlessly make fun of a silly idea via reductio ad absurdum should be moderated out? Link to comment
miguelito Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Hahaha! You must be joking obviously. The answer is use a Tesla battery of course. NUC10i7 + ROCK > dCS Rossini Apex DAC + dCS Rossini Clock SME 20/3 + SME V 9” + Dynavector XV-1s > vdH The Grail Audio Note Kondo Ongaku > Avantgarde Duo Mezzo Signal cables: Kondo Silver, Crystal Cable phono Power cables: Kondo, Shunyata, van den Hul system pics Link to comment
mordante Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Any power plant that runs on solar energy, wind, or something ecological. Just to annoy the climate change deniers. [br] Link to comment
Paul R Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 A Cold Fusion generator of course. Also has the side benefit of paying for the music system by selling the heavy metal back to the power company... Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
Teresa Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 ...If the last 6ft matter, I guess the first mile should too. Everything matters in audio, as we all know. If you are considering moving, why not instead clean up the crap that comes out of your wall socket along with the electricity using a decent power cleaner? I use the Monster Power HDP 1800 High Definition PowerCenter™. A quote from Noel Lee: "Ordinary unfiltered AC power contains electromagnetic and radio frequency noise that degrades the picture and sound quality of your home theater. Monster PowerCenters feature patented Monster Clean PowerTM filter circuitry that virtually stops the electromagnetic pollution that goes right through typical surge protectors. Clean Power circuitry filters both external AC powerline noise and also dramatically reduces noise generated by AV equipment connected to the PowerCenter." Don't plug your good power cable into a raw wall socket, clean up the power first. If you clean up the electricity coming out of the wall socket first the first mile doesn't matter as much as the last 6 ft from the power conditioner to the power cable to your precious components. I have dementia. I save all my posts in a text file I call Forums. I do a search in that file to find out what I said or did in the past. I still love music. Teresa Link to comment
alfe Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Cycling to generate power, this way you will link this poll to the other thread too. Link to comment
wgscott Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Cycling to generate power, this way you will link this poll to the other thread too. I've thought that would be a great way to power TVs, computes, and audio equipment. If you had to earn the electricity to run the equipment for sedentary activity, it might help those of us who are prone to packing on the pounds (which I, at 52, certainly am, but, alarmingly, find is also true with my kids). Charge the Tesla battery this way, and then you have the ultimate clean power source. Link to comment
trappy Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Particularly good for those slobs who "need" remotes ;-) Mac Mini (+Tidal +Roon) -> WiFi -> Lyngdorf TDAI1120 ->JM Reynaud Lucia (Tellurium Q Black v2) Link to comment
Boris75 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 If you are considering moving, why not instead clean up the crap that comes out of your wall socket along with the electricity using a decent power cleaner? I use the Monster Power HDP 1800 High Definition PowerCenter™. A quote from Noel Lee: "Ordinary unfiltered AC power contains electromagnetic and radio frequency noise that degrades the picture and sound quality of your home theater. Monster PowerCenters feature patented Monster Clean PowerTM filter circuitry that virtually stops the electromagnetic pollution that goes right through typical surge protectors. Clean Power circuitry filters both external AC powerline noise and also dramatically reduces noise generated by AV equipment connected to the PowerCenter." Don't plug your good power cable into a raw wall socket, clean up the power first. If you clean up the electricity coming out of the wall socket first the first mile doesn't matter as much as the last 6 ft from the power conditioner to the power cable to your precious components. Thanks. I currently use an APC Line-R 1200 (http://www.amazon.com/APC-LE1200-Automatic-Voltage-Regulator/dp/B00009RA60/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1442935765&sr=8-1&keywords=apc+line-r+1200) for surge protection and power filtering, following Blizzard's recommendation on this forum. A brief look at the specs suggests that your suggested Monster Power 1800 is superior; however, a quick search failed to yield a 230V version of it. I'll keep looking. Link to comment
Boris75 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Charge the Tesla battery this way, and then you have the ultimate clean power source. This sounds like too hard work for me: it seems that I should hire a few cyclists, in addition to the calcants for the pipe organ. By the way, for this bicycle-powered Tesla battery to be the ultimate clean, green power source, I surely must feed the cyclists on organic food. Any volunteers? Link to comment
Daudio Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I use the Monster Power HDP 1800 High Definition PowerCenter™. Teresa, I have heard from a couple of sources that all of Monsters power products, except the early Richard Marsh designed products, actually remove something from the music. YMMV... I have the Monster HTS2000, but I wish I had the MKII. Link to comment
miguelito Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 The answer is use a Tesla battery of course. I'm actually not joking. Generally the battery solutions have been limiting because of not enough reserve in transients. But a massive Tesla battery together with a massive DC->AC should be able to cope methinks. Even better would be no AC in the middle... Any distribution grid will pick up electromagnetic noise. This is unavoidable. The only way around it is to filter it out (or be off grid obviously as in the Tesla case). Filtering as always is a tricky thing as it adds impedance to the distribution making it slower. NUC10i7 + ROCK > dCS Rossini Apex DAC + dCS Rossini Clock SME 20/3 + SME V 9” + Dynavector XV-1s > vdH The Grail Audio Note Kondo Ongaku > Avantgarde Duo Mezzo Signal cables: Kondo Silver, Crystal Cable phono Power cables: Kondo, Shunyata, van den Hul system pics Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I'm actually not joking. Generally the battery solutions have been limiting because of not enough reserve in transients. But a massive Tesla battery together with a massive DC->AC should be able to cope methinks. Even better would be no AC in the middle... Cutting out the middle (DC-AC) step always seams to make sense to me... Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
NOMBEDES Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Stalking posts where direct threats are made against participants are ok, but ones that harmlessly make fun of a silly idea via reductio ad absurdum should be moderated out? Look out! Latin is verboten! In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake ~ Sayre's Law Link to comment
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