JoeWhip Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I group of us in our local audio group will be doing a shoot between one member's Yggy and my Gumby. It should prove interesting. I upgraded my Gungnir to the Gumby and I am certainly glad I did. The Gumby is a significant improvement with better dynamics, low level detail and a better sense of space. While I believe it is possible that the soundstage width may be a tad, and I am not sure about it, I will have to listen some more, narrower, the front to back depth of the Gumby is noticeably better. The liveliness of a drum kit is also much more realistic without being harsh. The Gumby is more detailed than the DS Gungnir, more dynamic and easier on the ear. It is, in short, a much better sounding DAC than the DS Gungnir and well worth the $500. Link to comment
Jimmypowder Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I group of us in our local audio group will be doing a shoot between one member's Yggy and my Gumby. It should prove interesting. I upgraded my Gungnir to the Gumby and I am certainly glad I did. The Gumby is a significant improvement with better dynamics, low level detail and a better sense of space. While I believe it is possible that the soundstage width may be a tad, and I am not sure about it, I will have to listen some more, narrower, the front to back depth of the Gumby is noticeably better. The liveliness of a drum kit is also much more realistic without being harsh. The Gumby is more detailed than the DS Gungnir, more dynamic and easier on the ear. It is, in short, a much better sounding DAC than the DS Gungnir and well worth the $500. I agree wit you . It was possibly the best 500 bucks I've ever spent for an upgrade . As I have a Yggy coming in too , I'm interested in upcoming comparisons ! I don't think I've heard a dac under 2k that can beat the MB Gungnir overall . Link to comment
photonblur Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Regarding the Yggy, the beginning of the video in this link has some very interesting comments from Bob Katz and Tyll: Big Sound 2015: Biting the Bullet with Bob Katz | InnerFidelity Was the Yggy compared to the Antelope Zodiac Plat. with the 10M Rubidium Atomic Clock, $13,045, or w/o the Atomic Clock, $5,500. Either way great endorsement for the $2,300 Yggy. Link to comment
toddrhodes Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I agree wit you . It was possibly the best 500 bucks I've ever spent for an upgrade . As I have a Yggy coming in too , I'm interested in upcoming comparisons ! I don't think I've heard a dac under 2k that can beat the MB Gungnir overall . Jimmy, does Gumby include the "Burrito" closed form filter? And, if you know, is it a true balanced design? TIA! Ryzen 3900x Roon Core PC -> Intel i9900k HQPlayer W10 machine -> iFi Zen Stream NAA Holo May KTE, Benchmark LA4 preamp SMC Audio upgraded DNA-125 Amp Dynaudio Confidence C2 Platinum speakers Vinyl rig - Schiit Sol, Nagaoka MP-500, Mod Squad PhonoDrive phono stage Link to comment
baldr Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Gumby does indeed use the megacombo burrito filter, albeit with a few less taps..... I will not make a multibit D/A without it, as it is what separates us from all other multibits. Link to comment
baldr Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 BTW, the Gumby is also true hardway balanced from the digi domain (4 DACs) one per phase per channel. Link to comment
toast Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Why no USB Gen 3 option for the Gumby multibit? I'm willing to pay a premium for that option. 2 Ch stereo Auralic Aries>Wireworld AES>Kitsune Holo Spring DAC L3>Van Den Hul-The Second balance cable>Sonic Euphoria (fully balance autoformer)>Van Den Hul-The Second balance cable>D-Sonic M3-1200S-A (Anaview AMS1000-2600)>Synergistic Tesla Accelerator cable>Ohm 3000 speakers plus Omni Harmonizer super tweeter Link to comment
mkrzych Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Regarding the Yggy, the beginning of the video in this link has some very interesting comments from Bob Katz and Tyll: Big Sound 2015: Biting the Bullet with Bob Katz | InnerFidelity AWESOME idea and video! Can't wait for Day 2… -- Krzysztof Maj http://mkrzych.wordpress.com/ "Music is the highest form of art. It is also the most noble. It is human emotion, captured, crystallised, encased… and then passed on to others." - By Ken Ishiwata Link to comment
preproman Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Oh, no doubt. I say allegedly, cause I get the feeling it will take even longer. Marv (Purrin) who beta'd the prototype does concur that the time goes down over time, but still needing 4 or more days after he turned it off. Not sure how long Gungnir Multibit will take, but I am looking forward to it settling. I've actually only read of one person selling his Yggy, everybody else loves them. And the wait is now to the end of September. And I agree, that's why their name is Schiitt, cause they don't give a rats ass about the bull, stuff. I sold mine as well. Headamp Blue Hawaii Special Edition / Stax SR-009, SR-007 MKI, SR-007 MKII Lumin A-1 Network Player iPAD Pro / JRemote App JRiver 21 / unRAID NAS Link to comment
earflappin Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Care to elaborate ? Mac Mini / Pure Music > Firewire & USB > Metric Halo LIO-8 > Hypex NCORE 400 > Geddes Abbey Speakers > Rythmik Servo & Geddes Band Pass Subs // DH Labs Cables, HRS MXR Isolation Rack, PurePower 2000, Elgar 6006B Link to comment
ChrisG Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Preproman preferred a Total DAC instead. So I guess there has been more than 1 sold. ChrisG Bend, OR Link to comment
kilroy Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Is it even a fair comparison? The Total DACs are 3 - 15+ times more expensive. Link to comment
firedog Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Is it even a fair comparison? The Total DACs are 3 - 15+ times more expensive. It's a fair comparison when Schitt talks about it (the FAQ page for the Yggy) being competitive with or better than anything on the DAC market. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
kilroy Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 It's a fair comparison when Schitt talks about it (the FAQ page for the Yggy) being competitive with or better than anything on the DAC market. Ah, yes....the Arglebargle Link to comment
adamaley Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 So, Chris, any word on when the review will be coming out? Or has it, and my lazy ass missed it? If so, I shall take my reprimand in addition to a link to it, thank you. Link to comment
photonblur Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Is it even a fair comparison? The Total DACs are 3 - 15+ times more expensive. The modestly priced Yggy even being considered in this league is IMPRESSIVE. Link to comment
Blake Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Another Yggy review to kill the time until Chris posts his review. Schiit Yggdrasil DAC – Review | HeadMania Speaker Room: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Pacific 2 | Viva Linea | Constellation Inspiration Stereo 1.0 | FinkTeam Kim | dual Rythmik E15HP subs Office Headphone System: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Golden Gate 3 | Viva Egoista | Abyss AB1266 Phi TC Link to comment
kilroy Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Another Yggy review to kill the time until Chris posts his review. Schiit Yggdrasil DAC – Review | HeadMania This review suggests Yggy + Hydra Z + ZPM = approaches MSB Analog DAC in some aspects. Cool. And affordable. Link to comment
Wfojas Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I sold mine as well. I think you were the one I read having sold it. In another note, the Gungnir MLB that I received on September 3 finally started to sound settled two days ago, and resembled what I heard in the Schiit show last night. At that point I put in the Regen and properly started to listen, and enjoy it. Eleven days it took but the wait is worth it, in my experience, as it starts to show better midbass control and more granular volume modulation of the differing lines. The detail I actually heard from the time I warmed it up, but sounded a little busy. Everything fell into place yesterday, aurally. I should find out how long it takes to get back to this state after it is turned off, but I'm not in a hurry to find out, just yet. Link to comment
trappy Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 There's one for sale in Canada too. Mac Mini (+Tidal +Roon) -> WiFi -> Lyngdorf TDAI1120 ->JM Reynaud Lucia (Tellurium Q Black v2) Link to comment
kilroy Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Audio equipment changes hands all the time for various reasons. Compatability, tastes, finances, WAF, etc. It shouldn't be interpreted as meaning there's an issue with the product. There's one for sale in Canada too. Link to comment
Jud Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Audio equipment changes hands all the time for various reasons. Compatability, tastes, finances, WAF, etc. It shouldn't be interpreted as meaning there's an issue with the product. Especially when it's a grand total of what, 3 or 4, out of hundreds? One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
miguelito Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 First of all, woot! Fun times! Second the numbers mean plenty; just have to try to understand which numbers mean what. Lots of misinterpretation by well meaning folks who want to oversimplify the world (aided by marketing that is only too glad to tell you if you've just got the Wizz-Bang 101 process happening inside your DAC, it's the *best* *sound* *evah*!!). Thx Jud. Every time I read numbers don't mean anything my stomach turns! NUC10i7 + Roon ROCK > dCS Rossini APEX DAC + dCS Rossini Master Clock SME 20/3 + SME V + Dynavector XV-1s or ANUK IO Gold > vdH The Grail or Kondo KSL-SFz + ANK L3 Phono Audio Note Kondo Ongaku > Avantgarde Duo Mezzo Signal cables: Kondo Silver, Crystal Cable phono Power cables: Kondo, Shunyata, van den Hul system pics Link to comment
baldr Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 As of now, we receive a limited, allocated number of Gen 3 USB engine chips from Cmedia. Because of that, we only offer them for Yggys. Link to comment
toast Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Got it, now I understand. Maybe sometime in the future when USB Gen 3 are more plentiful, a USB Gen 3 upgrade for the Gumby multibit might be offered. 2 Ch stereo Auralic Aries>Wireworld AES>Kitsune Holo Spring DAC L3>Van Den Hul-The Second balance cable>Sonic Euphoria (fully balance autoformer)>Van Den Hul-The Second balance cable>D-Sonic M3-1200S-A (Anaview AMS1000-2600)>Synergistic Tesla Accelerator cable>Ohm 3000 speakers plus Omni Harmonizer super tweeter Link to comment
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