Bikutoru Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Does anyone know what voltage / amps the Mini needs? That would be useful to know. Could I use a cigarette lighter adapter in a car? I wandered if I could put it in my car on long trips. Having a hard drive inside this thing could easily be a car music player I always wanted. my > overly > fancy > system > with > directional > interconnects > powered > by > ego & linear fusion reactor Link to comment
Iansr Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 That would be useful to know. Could I use a cigarette lighter adapter in a car? I wandered if I could put it in my car on long trips. Having a hard drive inside this thing could easily be a car music player I always wanted. That's an interesting thought. The Aries apparently runs fine on 12v . . . . Link to comment
davide256 Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 Found some links that suggest the voltage is 15V DC but nothing official. Tweek geek is advertising an Aries LPS upgrade for the Mini at $299 added cost, and stating release date is now 10/31. Will measure the voltage once my pre-order shows up and share Regards, Dave Audio system Link to comment
warpeon Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 according to my previous conversation with Mr. Wang in May, the mini is 16V/1.5A. Link to comment
Bikutoru Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Interesting what happens to our preorders at that price? Should we expect cancelations and/or asking for difference?Kinda not nice to promise $399 and then jump to $549, what if I do not care for Tidal? So here is what happened - Yesterday the dealer I preorder it from asked for a difference and I canceled. I also wrote to Auralic and got a very polite, but seem like a dishonest answer that "The $399 is a reference price worldwide for the ARIES MINI." I see price going up on all the sites. I just assume Auralic operates in a bite and switch mode. 37% increase over few month after announcement is not right. I really would like to be wrong here. my > overly > fancy > system > with > directional > interconnects > powered > by > ego & linear fusion reactor Link to comment
r_w Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I think the original price probably was/is too good to be true for the spec. I pre-ordered in Germany months ago (498 euro = 355 sterling) and will not be surprised if a top-up request comes in, which I will consider if it's nominal. If this happens it isn't good business really... when you shake someone's hand (pre-order is money exchange and virtual handshake) you should honour your agreement, which is why this stuff needs to be accurately costed before setting the selling price in each territory. Obviously it should be available without Tidal everywhere, it's daft to make that mandatory if it raises the price. Regardless it will no doubt be high quality for the money, I just hope they keep a very basic functional Android app going (search, add to queue, play - is all some of us are asking and that isn't much to ask for). So here is what happened - Yesterday the dealer I preorder it from asked for a difference and I canceled. I also wrote to Auralic and got a very polite, but seem like a dishonest answer that "The $399 is a reference price worldwide for the ARIES MINI." I see price going up on all the sites. I just assume Auralic operates in a bite and switch mode. 37% increase over few month after announcement is not right. I really would like to be wrong here. Source: *Aurender N100 (no internal disk : LAN optically isolated via FMC with *LPS) > DIY 5cm USB link (5v rail removed / ground lift switch - split for *LPS) > Intona Industrial (injected *LPS / internally shielded with copper tape) > DIY 5cm USB link (5v rail removed / ground lift switch) > W4S Recovery (*LPS) > DIY 2cm USB adaptor (5v rail removed / ground lift switch) > *Auralic VEGA (EXACT : balanced) Control: *Jeff Rowland CAPRI S2 (balanced) Playback: 2 x Revel B15a subs (balanced) > ATC SCM 50 ASL (balanced - 80Hz HPF from subs) Misc: *Via Power Inspired AG1500 AC Regenerator LPS: 3 x Swagman Lab Audiophile Signature Edition (W4S, Intona & FMC) Storage: QNAP TS-253Pro 2x 3Tb, 8Gb RAM Cables: DIY heavy gauge solid silver (balanced) Mains: dedicated distribution board with 5 x 2 socket ring mains, all mains cables: Mark Grant Black Series DSP 2.5 Dual Screen Link to comment
davide256 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Pre-orders are a bit murky to me, like speculating on the stock market. I wanted this, so payed the difference, with some concession between market launch price and pre-order price. Can't apply commodity thinking to custom goods. Regards, Dave Audio system Link to comment
jtwrace Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I will try to answer the questions of the MINI as I can. I've been testing this device for a couple of weeks so far. To say it's incredible is an understatement. W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
jtwrace Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Does anyone know what voltage / amps the Mini needs? I can confirm that it works great with the ARIES 16Vdc supply ($299). The recommended minimum is 14Vdc. W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
Leeuwarden Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Does the production version still has the ES9018 inside? Link to comment
Iansr Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I can confirm that it works great with the ARIES 16Vdc supply ($299). The recommended minimum is 14Vdc. thanks JT. Can you confirm the size and polarity of the DC connector. How do you come to have a MIni already? Please tell us more about why you think it is so good and what you are comparing it with. Thanks Link to comment
Iansr Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I think the original price probably was/is too good to be true for the spec. I pre-ordered in Germany months ago (498 euro = 355 sterling) and will not be surprised if a top-up request comes in, which I will consider if it's nominal. If this happens it isn't good business really... when you shake someone's hand (pre-order is money exchange and virtual handshake) you should honour your agreement, which is why this stuff needs to be accurately costed before setting the selling price in each territory. Obviously it should be available without Tidal everywhere, it's daft to make that mandatory if it raises the price. Regardless it will no doubt be high quality for the money, I just hope they keep a very basic functional Android app going (search, add to queue, play - is all some of us are asking and that isn't much to ask for). Audio Emotion in Scotland are advertising them at £375. Auralic have told me the European price will include a 3 month Tidal subscription. They say they can afford the 1 year subscription in the US because they sell direct there. Link to comment
r_w Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Good info. ;-) Audio Emotion in Scotland are advertising them at £375. Auralic have told me the European price will include a 3 month Tidal subscription. They say they can afford the 1 year subscription in the US because they sell direct there. Source: *Aurender N100 (no internal disk : LAN optically isolated via FMC with *LPS) > DIY 5cm USB link (5v rail removed / ground lift switch - split for *LPS) > Intona Industrial (injected *LPS / internally shielded with copper tape) > DIY 5cm USB link (5v rail removed / ground lift switch) > W4S Recovery (*LPS) > DIY 2cm USB adaptor (5v rail removed / ground lift switch) > *Auralic VEGA (EXACT : balanced) Control: *Jeff Rowland CAPRI S2 (balanced) Playback: 2 x Revel B15a subs (balanced) > ATC SCM 50 ASL (balanced - 80Hz HPF from subs) Misc: *Via Power Inspired AG1500 AC Regenerator LPS: 3 x Swagman Lab Audiophile Signature Edition (W4S, Intona & FMC) Storage: QNAP TS-253Pro 2x 3Tb, 8Gb RAM Cables: DIY heavy gauge solid silver (balanced) Mains: dedicated distribution board with 5 x 2 socket ring mains, all mains cables: Mark Grant Black Series DSP 2.5 Dual Screen Link to comment
mourip Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Does anyone know what voltage / amps the Mini needs? +1 I would like to know if it could handle 19v... or 12v from my HDPlex. "Don't Believe Everything You Think" System Link to comment
jtwrace Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I can confirm that it works great with the ARIES 16Vdc supply ($299). The recommended minimum is 14Vdc. +1 I would like to know if it could handle 19v... or 12v from my HDPlex. I think 16Vdc is the max. I think. W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
jtwrace Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 thanks JT. Can you confirm the size and polarity of the DC connector. How do you come to have a MIni already? Please tell us more about why you think it is so good and what you are comparing it with. Thanks Same as ARIES. Center pin positive. 2.5mm x 5.5mm I have one since I've been doing beta testing on LDS since I was the first paying customer and was very disappointed and wrote them an email and volunteered to help test as that's the only way it can be done. It has just continued. W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
Iansr Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Same as ARIES. Center pin positive. 2.5mm x 5.5mm I have one since I've been doing beta testing on LDS since I was the first paying customer and was very disappointed and wrote them an email and volunteered to help test as that's the only way it can be done. It has just continued. Ok thanks. Please tell us more about your listening impressions. I've ordered one anyway but you know what it's like . . . . :-) Link to comment
jtwrace Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 HD Info W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
Iansr Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 deleted. I'm getting an invalid attachment message when I click that link Link to comment
jtwrace Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 ARIES MINI Filter Mode W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
Iansr Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I can confirm that it works great with the ARIES 16Vdc supply ($299). The recommended minimum is 14Vdc. When using an external DAC, did you find the Aries PS made a significant difference compared to the stock PS? Link to comment
jtwrace Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 When using an external DAC, did you find the Aries PS made a significant difference compared to the stock PS? Subjectively I *think* I did. W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
Leeuwarden Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Subjectively I *think* I did. Must be a small difference then. Surprises me a bit... Link to comment
jtwrace Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Must be a small difference then. Surprises me a bit... OK. The other way is massive.. W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
Leeuwarden Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Speaking another language I think I don't understand? Is the ES9018 still inside the Mini? (I am on the list to buy one and use it with a separate DAC. But my DAC died a couple of weeks ago (new one on the way) so a back up DAC is a nice thought. Link to comment
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