Great New Download Site

[bmoura]

Great! This other is also outstanding (DL on DSD64)Roch

 

If you're looking for an outstanding Jazz recording in DSD, check out "In Summer" by Paulien Van Schaik, Bert Joris and Hein Van De Geyn on Challenge Jazz. An album full of standards featuring startling clarity on the vocals on the track "Them There Eyes". Wow.

 

 

https://challengejazz.nativedsd.com/albums/in-summer

[mkrzych]

Unless you have a (very expensive) R2R DAC, your DAC itself "goes to DSD" with the PCM file. So you can argue with whoever designed DACs (including yours) that way.

 

As I said, I'm perfectly happy with a good recording in any (lossless) resolution or format as a starting point. But sometimes (Gaucho, Tommy) albums I like happen to be available in very well recorded/mastered DSD and very badly recorded/mastered PCM, and there I am happy I have the option of playing these as DSD rather than having to convert to PCM - which is what Krzysztof must do with some material, but hopefully a good DAC that is affordable and capable of playing DSD without conversion becomes available for him in the not too distant future.

 

Not sure about the future, but I wish I had good DSD DAC with very good headphone amp. BTW, does DSD is limited to USB connection only? If so, I am not so sure and DSD as technology itself has been available on SACD players for quite some time, so what could be the revelation nowadays that DSD sounds potentially better than high sampling rate PCM? Easier to deploy in the hardware/chip? And if talking about DSD there are again different rates: 64fs, 128fs, quad DSD etc. which may cause another hell ;-)

[bmoura]

Not sure about the future, but I wish I had good DSD DAC with very good headphone amp. BTW, does DSD is limited to USB connection only?

 

Depends on the DAC or Player with DSD. Most support USB but some have other interfaces including Ethernet. Check the DSD Database for more details on what is available (price, features, etc.) These days, DAC + Headphone amp is very common.

 

http://www.dsd.sonore.us

[mkrzych]

Depends on the DAC or Player with DSD. Most support USB but some have other interfaces including Ethernet. Check the DSD Database for more details on what is available (price, features, etc.) These days, DAC + Headphone amp is very common.

 

http://www.dsd.sonore.us

 

I guess this should be native DSD interface, so mostly seems to be done in USB or special optical connection like in case of EMM, where the price is - well cosmic.

[Melvin]

There are some deals out there. Over at Native DSD, they have several samplers in Stereo and Multichannel DSD for under $10 each. And the DSD File folks have some 4 track downloads at $6 and under. Worth checking out.

 

https://www.nativedsd.com/homepage/samplers

DSD File | Zinaida Oganova

DSD File | Yamina – Love Letters EP

 

Thank you. Yes, some being the operative word here. Prices remain way too high for the average dude like me ;-)

[Jud]

Not sure about the future, but I wish I had good DSD DAC with very good headphone amp. BTW, does DSD is limited to USB connection only? If so, I am not so sure and DSD as technology itself has been available on SACD players for quite some time, so what could be the revelation nowadays that DSD sounds potentially better than high sampling rate PCM? Easier to deploy in the hardware/chip? And if talking about DSD there are again different rates: 64fs, 128fs, quad DSD etc. which may cause another hell ;-)

 

I think the iFi DAC I mentioned upthread for $200 U.S. comes pretty close to fulfilling these criteria. But I don't know what its pricing and availability are in your part of the world.

 

Please understand I am not focusing on DSD vs. PCM in general, but on specifics, such as "In which format is the best performed/recorded version of this work available?" Having a DAC that is capable of playing more formats and resolutions allows you to listen to these works without worrying about whether an intermediate downsampling step might negatively affect the sound of the best available version.

 

Of course that is just my own thinking, and you have your own considerations and priorities. You are certainly correct, for example, that we don't seem to be finished exploring higher and higher rate DSD formats.

[Shadorne]

Unless you have a (very expensive) R2R DAC, your DAC itself "goes to DSD" with the PCM file. So you can argue with whoever designed DACs (including yours) that way.

 

As I said, I'm perfectly happy with a good recording in any (lossless) resolution or format as a starting point. But sometimes (Gaucho, Tommy) albums I like happen to be available in very well recorded/mastered DSD and very badly recorded/mastered PCM, and there I am happy I have the option of playing these as DSD rather than having to convert to PCM - which is what Krzysztof must do with some material, but hopefully a good DAC that is affordable and capable of playing DSD without conversion becomes available for him in the not too distant future.

 

Agreed. I expect most DSD is converted from a final mixed and mastered PCM anyway as PCM is standard in the studio. Unless it leads to cheaper playback devices then I can't really see the logic of the added conversion. Of course, like SACD, when that was a format that was being pushed, I suppose you will get stuff only and uniquely available in DSD that may be better quality master than anything else out there.

 

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/direct-stream-digital-or-not-direct-stream-digital-16093/

[The Computer Audiophile]

This is really neat. I visited Bert van der Wolf's studio last time I was in the Netherlands. He has a full dCS rig with multi-channel Avalon loudspeakers.

[Priaptor]

Agreed. I expect most DSD is converted from a final mixed and mastered PCM anyway as PCM is standard in the studio. Unless it leads to cheaper playback devices then I can't really see the logic of the added conversion. Of course, like SACD, when that was a format that was being pushed, I suppose you will get stuff only and uniquely available in DSD that may be better quality master than anything else out there.

 

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/direct-stream-digital-or-not-direct-stream-digital-16093/

 

That is true and why I buy in the format closest to the master. However, like many of Turtle releases and all of Native releases these are from DSD masters and are superb.

[Priaptor]

This is really neat. I visited Bert van der Wolf's studio last time I was in the Netherlands. He has a full dCS rig with multi-channel Avalon loudspeakers.

 

It shows. The stuff being released by Native and Turtle is superb

[mkrzych]

It shows. The stuff being released by Native and Turtle is superb

 

Well, sonically that's true. One thing maybe, we can push the technology further and further to get the best sound but without top notch performances and musicians it's just technology and music to test your equipment, nothing else IMHO. Turtle, Wilson Audio, Lawo or any other "niche" record labels they may get the best sound ever, but very limited repertoire - and I think putting both together is the only one, right direction - not easy, but I think important.

[mkrzych]

This is really neat. I visited Bert van der Wolf's studio last time I was in the Netherlands. He has a full dCS rig with multi-channel Avalon loudspeakers.

 

Yes Chris, I saw the studio shots on their website and indeed, impressive. BTW, this is not a recording studio, but rather place to consume music, but I found it also impressive: Gallery

[elcorso]

If you're looking for an outstanding Jazz recording in DSD, check out "In Summer" by Paulien Van Schaik, Bert Joris and Hein Van De Geyn on Challenge Jazz. An album full of standards featuring startling clarity on the vocals on the track "Them There Eyes". Wow.

 

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https://challengejazz.nativedsd.com/albums/in-summer

 

Thanks!

 

This is also a great (analogue to DSD from David Manley):

 

 

https://fonerecords.nativedsd.com/albums/easy-to-love

 

 

Roch

[bmoura]

Agreed. I expect most DSD is converted from a final mixed and mastered PCM anyway as PCM is standard in the studio. Unless it leads to cheaper playback devices then I can't really see the logic of the added conversion. Of course, like SACD, when that was a format that was being pushed, I suppose you will get stuff only and uniquely available in DSD that may be better quality master than anything else out there.

 

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/direct-stream-digital-or-not-direct-stream-digital-16093/

 

Depends on the sourcing of the downloads and the downloads site in question. On Blue Coast and Downloads Now, most of the DSD Downloads are DSD or Analog Tape sourced. On Native DSD, they are all DSD, Analog or in some cases DXD sourced. DSD File features Analog and DSD sourced downloads only from the ones I've looked at there.

 

So you can find non-PCM sourced DSD Downloads these days. Depends on where you shop!

[bmoura]

Thanks!

 

This is also a great (analogue to DSD from David Manley):

 

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https://fonerecords.nativedsd.com/albums/easy-to-love

 

 

Roch

 

Another fine analog to DSD transfer from Fone Jazz by David Manley is the album "The Doctor" by Doc Powell. Worth checking out!

 

 

https://fonerecords.nativedsd.com/albums/the-doctor

[elcorso]

I've been waiting for this recording since times... Out of print CD / SACD.

 

Now available as download. Great!

 

 

 

 

Ride the Times (Download) | The Spirit of Turtle

 

 

Sheers!

 

Roch

[Priaptor]

I've been waiting for this recording since times... Out of print CD / SACD.

 

Now available as download. Great!

 

 

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Ride the Times (Download) | The Spirit of Turtle

 

 

Sheers!

 

Roch

 

Any idea how this was recorded? They don't say just that it was CD/SACD. I wanted to buy it but wasn't sure what format.

 

Thanks in advance for any info

 

Howie

[elcorso]

Any idea how this was recorded? They don't say just that it was CD/SACD. I wanted to buy it but wasn't sure what format.

 

Thanks in advance for any info

 

Howie

 

As always not too much detailed information. I only can guess is analogue to DSD:

 

SA-CD.net - Ride the Times - The Iain Ad Venture

 

http://spiritofturtle.com/booklets/TR75534.pdf

 

Being Turtle Records I took the chance an DL the DSD64 and the SQ pleased me very much.

 

Roch

[Priaptor]

As always not too much detailed information. I only can guess is analogue to DSD:

 

SA-CD.net - Ride the Times - The Iain Ad Venture

 

http://spiritofturtle.com/booklets/TR75534.pdf

 

Being Turtle Records I took the chance an DL the DSD64 and the SQ pleased me very much.

 

Roch

 

Thanks. The site has some great music

[bmoura]

Any idea how this was recorded? They don't say just that it was CD/SACD. I wanted to buy it but wasn't sure what format.

 

Thanks in advance for any info

 

Howie

 

The PDF mentions a dCS DXD/DSD converter, so that is a clue I suppose. Best bet would be to send them an email and check.