Allan F Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 what do you call 1000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea ? The most common response is, "A good start". Alex, thanks for thinking of us. However, most of the lawyers I know have seen these transcripts many times. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
Allan F Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Isn't the first rule of the courtroom "never ask anything you don't know the answer to already?" At a trial, that is almost always true. But the opposite is true at a preliminary hearing in criminal cases, where defence lawyers want to find out as much as possible about the prosecution's case. And thereby often learn what not to ask at the trial. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
Allan F Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 But for the rest of us, it's reassuring to know that Lawyers can also say silly things at times too, even in a highly charged atmosphere like a court room. It happens more often than you might imagine. I just had to write down and save a question a lawyer asked a police photographer in a case of mine: "Now, constable, looking at photograph number five of the exhibit, are the package of cigarette papers and the tobacco in the place where you saw them when you took the photo?" Makes you guys seem a little more human? I'll leave that for others to decide. I'm not sure that lawyers are qualified to comment. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
Allan F Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 My brother is also an attorney and found this one funny, so hopefully no offense... Don't worry. I've heard them all and I bet Jud has as well. We probably know a few that most people haven't heard. They are privileged. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
Allan F Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Why don't sharks eat lawyers swimming in the ocean? Professional courtesy! Did you miss post #10 above? It's the same old joke. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
Allan F Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Well, I have to say that they are all old and the thread was titled "One..." but Alex promptly posted 14 in the first post so I wouldn't be too concerned about details, nobody else seems to be! FWIW, John, I believe the "One" in Alex's subject line referred to his post, as in "Here is a post for...", not the number of items contained therein. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
Allan F Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Of course, Allan, I'm sure he meant one thread...and I'm sure that the jokes are funny no matter how many times we hear them! John I'm not as sure as you are, John, but I have probably heard them a lot more times than you have. Some are classic, however. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
Allan F Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 He hands me off to his associate, who has a different perspective. He tries to convince me to drop the case, pointing out that if it goes to trial, the jurors will all be motorists...get it? And, he doesn't get paid unless I win...At the deposition, the driver says she never saw me. She noticed my nine friends as they passed her, but didn't bother to look in her rearview mirror for anyone else...Meanwhile, my lawyer is tip-toeing around the issue, and does not get her to admit any fault... Long story short, we go to arbitration, and my attorney sells me out. The woman who nearly killed me gets assessed 50% blame, and I'm 50% at fault for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I get a cash settlement, but it is a pittance. And, thats my lawyer story!! The End I am very sorry to hear what happened to you and I don’t intend to defend the lawyer. But, given your complaints, I believe that you have to accept at least part of the responsibility for the outcome. If your doctor had wanted to cut off your arm and you didn’t agree, would have let him go ahead or would you have sought another opinion? When your second lawyer showed a “different perspective” and “tries to convince me to drop the case”, why didn’t you fire him? Or at least seek a second opinion? A lawyer is supposed to work for the client, not the other way around. Do you think that your expectations at the deposition were realistic? You criticize your lawyer for not getting the driver to admit fault. How often do you think any defendant admits fault at a deposition? It doesn’t happen. It may be hard to accept but, given your description of you lagging 30 to 40 yds behind, the driver’s statement that she didn’t see you is very plausible. Whether she, or more importantly, a reasonable person in those circumstances should have seen you is most important, as it defines the issue. That is the test for negligence. I can’t offer an opinion on the result without knowing all the facts as well as the law in your state. But I fully understand why you were upset by it. A painful way to learn that all motorists are idiots and bicycles are invisible to them. As a cyclist you can't really afford to have 'unexpected' things happen, you'll always be the loser. Glad you're injuries weren't worse. Sad, but for the most part, true. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
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