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Try rebooting your iPad.  I have seen crashing problems with other apps and I needed to restart my iPad


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1 hour ago, honeymustardsteve said:

Did that a few times already. Prob didn’t test it on older iPads....

It's a known problem with iOS9.x. Will be solved with an update very soon (in beta now).

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20 hours ago, honeymustardsteve said:

Did that a few times already. Prob didn’t test it on older iPads....

 

I didn't search Aurender's site very well but couldn't find a mention as to what versions of ios are not supported. 

 

@honeymustardsteve You now have a very good reason to upgrade your iPad. 😁


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22 hours ago, honeymustardsteve said:

I updated the app yesterday and every time I press the playlist button, the app crashes. Tried reinstalling and it still crashes. 

I don’t think I can downgrade the app...

 

im running an iPad 2 and there were no problems previously. 

@honeymustardsteve Yes, unfortunately it is due to the old iPad/old iOS version. Our software team says that a fix for this particular problem is on the way in the next few days.

 

However, as Aurender continues to develop software for iOS 12 + and simultaneously on the Android platform, Conductor’s support for iOS9 and earlier will probably expire this year. Sorry about that. 

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By the way, has anybody tried the new full-featured Android app? Thoughts? Feelings? Questions? Concerns? Thank you for any feedback.

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49 minutes ago, honeymustardsteve said:

Yes it’s ok to stop supporting as long as there is a working version so that we aren’t left stranded and forced to spend more money. 

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52 minutes ago, honeymustardsteve said:

Yes it’s ok to stop supporting as long as there is a working version so that we aren’t left stranded and forced to spend more money. 

While this may seem like a reasonable request, it's a nightmare for manufacturers. Maintaining two versions of an app can be much more work. On the Android side this would be untenable. 


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If Aurender wouldn't be so stubborn and would starting supporting Roon issues like future compatibility would be eliminated.  I moved on from Aurender after purchasing Roon.  Having said that I realize that Roon isn't for everyone and many people don't like it or won't be purchasing it.  Still, Aurender's reasons for not supporting Roon don't make sense.


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12 minutes ago, sfseay said:

If Aurender wouldn't be so stubborn and would starting supporting Roon issues like future compatibility would be eliminated.  I moved on from Aurender after purchasing Roon.  Having said that I realize that Roon isn't for everyone and many people don't like it or won't be purchasing it.  Still, Aurender's reasons for not supporting Roon don't make sense.

 

In their present configuration, Aurender devices don't seem to be compatible with Roon. You may be able to kludge a Roon/Aurender configuration but...


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36 minutes ago, sfseay said:

If Aurender wouldn't be so stubborn and would starting supporting Roon issues like future compatibility would be eliminated.

I think you're dreaming on this one. Introducing a third party can only increase the complexity and issues. Both companies have their own minimum requirements. When you combine them it can get ugly. 


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40 minutes ago, sfseay said:

If Aurender wouldn't be so stubborn and would starting supporting Roon issues like future compatibility would be eliminated.

It took them years just to do a GUI that wasn't brown.  So good luck.


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42 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

I think you're dreaming on this one. Introducing a third party can only increase the complexity and issues. Both companies have their own minimum requirements. When you combine them it can get ugly. 

 

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I disagree.  Dozens of vendors support Roon and the experience even with upgrades is seamless.  I have used Roon with three different Lumin devices, a Bryston BDP-1, Auralic G2, PS Audio Directstream all without issues. 


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47 minutes ago, sfseay said:

I disagree.  Dozens of vendors support Roon and the experience even with upgrades is seamless.  I have used Roon with three different Lumin devices, a Bryston BDP-1, Auralic G2, PS Audio Directstream all without issues. 

I highly recommend asking around. Many manufacturers are frustrated by what Roon makes them do in order to be Roon Ready. For example, a new one is that Roon requires a device volume be at a certain level. This won’t be possible for some manufacturers with analog volume control. Also, a Roon Ready end point must be visible on the network at all times. Thus, products now need another power supply that only keeps the network card available for Roon to see. Powering much more will break EU rules for energy consumption when a product is in sleep mode. 

 

I understand why Roon required these items for the best end user experience but you should know it isn’t all sunshine for manufacturers. 


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@Allan F and @sfseay -- as a roon user, i understand where you're coming from -- roon is a great program.

 

i assume aurender has made a strategic decision that for them to build their business most effectively, they believe that owning the entire ecosystem is the way to go.  i also assume that they think that roon tarnishes their brand and makes their hardware appear to be more of a commodity.

 

i understand the argument.  unfortunately, i'll never own one of their products.  but then again, the people on this forum are the small minority, not the large majority of customers.

 

 


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21 hours ago, AriMargolis said:

By the way, has anybody tried the new full-featured Android app? Thoughts? Feelings? Questions? Concerns? Thank you for any feedback.

I think it's really great. I am betatesting it now and there are still some small issues to be solved. But all in all: it's really impressive. 😊

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5 minutes ago, Vincent1234 said:

I think it's really great. I am betatesting it now and there are still some small issues to be solved. But all in all: it's really impressive. 😊

oh great, now I need to buy another Android tablet 😂


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6 minutes ago, mabe said:

 

+1

...even if I would belong to a "small minority" , aurender enabled/facilitated me beautiful hours of music w/o any HW/SW troubles.

I think, there is always a market for music enthusiasts willing to spend a lot of money in high quality products from reliable companies.

My many years of experience with aurender has proven its worth.    

I agree. There is a larger market for this than most people think. In addition,  many people talk about Roon versus Aurender, but they are completely different animals in so many ways. I use both, as well as just about every other platform available.

 

I'm currently using a W20 connected to a dCS Rossini (that's sending external word clock back to the W20 and running dual AES) as my reference. 


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