The "Official" Aurender Discussion Thread

[Quadiffusor HK]

On ‎7‎/‎12‎/‎2019 at 1:01 AM, AriMargolis said:

@Quadiffusor HK you'll be pleased to know (as am I) that we are prioritizing a feature where one can assign a star rating to all tracks on the album with one command. You can then go back and adjust the number of stars for each individual track if you want. 

 

So, it is still track-by-track based ratings, but you don't have to assign them one-by-one. This will be easier than creating a new database field for album-associated ratings. 

 

Please don't ask "when"...if I had an answer to that question I would share it!  

@AriMargolis That would be an interesting feature for those accustomed to star-rating individual tracks for the majority of their music library, but my guess is that very few people actually do that, as there are 10s of thousands, if not 100s of thousands of individual tracks in an audiophile's rather large library.  For example, I have only star-rated less than 100 individual songs which I believe are truly exceptional, so that I can track and recall them discretely.  Hence, this new feature would not be something I'll ever use, as doing so will create a massive and equally unmanageable situation of a zillion stars, whose utility and value will likely become severely diluted.

 

AGAIN, I implore the team to add a new feature to be able to star-rate ALBUMS (and not just individual tracks) - or just as useful, to be able to simply apply a binary star-ON or star-OFF identifier to individual albums.  This simple feature will help separate noteworthy individual albums from the ever-growing, hundreds of thousands of albums out there, whose utility and value should be very simple to see and understand.  TIDAL already offers this feature, and simply said, it is THE most useful tool to have, bar none !

[AurenderAmerica]

@Quadiffusor HK I think you're misunderstanding how this would work - I think we're both talking about the same thing: a feature where the whole album's worth of tracks would be rate-able in one command. Then, when you use the "star" filter to view albums that you have starred or "favorited", all of those tracks from all of those albums will show up. Of course they'll still be sorted and browesable by complete album, not just by track. This completely accomplishes the goal of what you're trying to achieve:

15 hours ago, Quadiffusor HK said:

add a new feature to be able to star-rate ALBUMS

 

[Quadiffusor HK]

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[Quadiffusor HK]

On ‎7‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 6:02 AM, AriMargolis said:

@Quadiffusor HK I think you're misunderstanding how this would work - I think we're both talking about the same thing: a feature where the whole album's worth of tracks would be rate-able in one command. Then, when you use the "star" filter to view albums that you have starred or "favorited", all of those tracks from all of those albums will show up. Of course they'll still be sorted and browesable by complete album, not just by track. This completely accomplishes the goal of what you're trying to achieve:

 

@AriMargolis, yes I'm afraid I don't understand.  I would appreciate your patience, to explain once again how to tag single albums without birthing zillions of unrelated stars ratings (for individual tracks inside that one album) in the process, as this would cause great harm in destroying and diluting my carefully-curated star rating database on individual tracks I had already built separately.  Essentially, I'm interested in tagging a couple of restaurants out of the thousands I've visited over my lifetime without having to star rank every single entrée on each restaurant's menu.  I hope you understand this analogy, so you can help direct your software team to develop this software feature in the Aurender Conductor App.  Thank you!

[rwwjr44]

It is summer isn't it? 🙄

[The Computer Audiophile]

1 minute ago, rwwjr44 said:

It is summer isn't it? 🙄

[rwwjr44]

10 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I know but I am just a bit impatient. 😁

[Vincent1234]

51 minutes ago, rwwjr44 said:

 

I know but I am just a bit impatient. 😁

It's coming soon. Trust me! 😊👍

[edje]

Anybody tried the new conductor app? It is launched today in the App store!

[rwwjr44]

9 minutes ago, edje said:

Anybody tried the new conductor app? It is launched today in the App store!

 

Thanks. Just now playing with it. So far, it looks very good.

[The Computer Audiophile]

Very nice. 

[SirAtilla]

1 hour ago, edje said:

Anybody tried the new conductor app? It is launched today in the App store!

 

yes looks great.  On my 12.9" iPad Pro I can see significantly more albums than before which is also nice.  The ability to protect (aka backup) your ratings and playlists is also a nice edition.

[Booster MPS]

Looks good to me, I like it.  Any changes under the hood that I should notice other than the visual refresh?  Thanks!

[NordicBob]

7 hours ago, SirAtilla said:

 

yes looks great.  On my 12.9" iPad Pro I can see significantly more albums than before which is also nice.  The ability to protect (aka backup) your ratings and playlists is also a nice edition.

 

I’m still trying to get used to this look as I’m so used to the old one, but I think that I’m coming around.  Of the 3:different themes, I like the dark best.  

[JS21]

5 minutes ago, NordicBob said:

 

I’m still trying to get used to this look as I’m so used to the old one, but I think that I’m coming around.  Of the 3:different themes, I like the dark best.  

Same here, don’t really care for the light or warm themes. 

I do like the more 3D shadows on the buttons, of the older one as this looks a bit flat to me. Yes, I know, I’m never happy but thank you Aurender for the update. 

[NordicBob]

1 hour ago, JS21 said:

Same here, don’t really care for the light or warm themes. 

I do like the more 3D shadows on the buttons, of the older one as this looks a bit flat to me. Yes, I know, I’m never happy but thank you Aurender for the update. 

 

I thought that I was missing something and I bet that could be it regarding the 3D shadows. 

[Craig1512]

What a great update, on my iPad 12.9” pro. I prefer the black theme, album art icons on playlist list/queue are a nice feature. Everything works as it should. This is why I have had my N100 for around 5 years now and not looking to replace or upgrade for many more years to come. Here’s the list of what’s new in V3.

 

[The Fonz]

Love the new look. One bug though. Streaming from qobuz no track title on the display of my n100. On both lines the artistname appears. Display is ok with TIDAL and library. Only with qobuz it’s wrong. 

[SirAtilla]

Grabbed this from the Aurender Korean web site outlining the difference between the W20 and the new W20SE that is being shown at the California Audio Show starting today.

 

[bmichels]

I upgraded to conductor 3.0 for my W20.

 

New interface looks good, but... I am disapointed: Last year in September 2018, I has a mail exchange with Aurender's Technical Support Manager , about the Lyrics being displayed like ROON does, and the answer was : 

 

"Currently, no, there is no provision for vieing lyrics within the Conductor app. However, Conductor 3.0 is currently under development. It is a complete overhaul that will maintain foundation of the simple Aurender user experience but will incorporate more of the automatic metadata retrieval and implementation that Roon has made essential. A solution for retrieving and displaying song lyrics is included in the long list of features that will be enabled. It is still too soon to talk about any kind of release date, but it is coming...... By “automatic metadata retrieval” I mean download/retrieval from the internet. So, no, you won’t have to manually tag lyrics to all your songs!

In the interest of setting your expectations properly, I have to add that since we are a small company, it will be some time before 3.0 is ready for universal release. But we are committed to building an app/user experience that competes with Roon. As music lovers, we really respect the discovery and metadata implementation/retrieval functionality that Roon has developed."

 

And this conversation convinced me to purchase the W20 instead of a ROON Server.

 

Today, I see that lyrics are still not implemented.  and I am disapointed by those promises not holded...  :-(

[The Computer Audiophile]

1 hour ago, bmichels said:

I upgraded to conductor 3.0 for my W20.

 

New interface looks good, but... I am disapointed: Last year in September 2018, I has a mail exchange with Aurender's Technical Support Manager , about the Lyrics being displayed like ROON does, and the answer was : 

 

"Currently, no, there is no provision for vieing lyrics within the Conductor app. However, Conductor 3.0 is currently under development. It is a complete overhaul that will maintain foundation of the simple Aurender user experience but will incorporate more of the automatic metadata retrieval and implementation that Roon has made essential. A solution for retrieving and displaying song lyrics is included in the long list of features that will be enabled. It is still too soon to talk about any kind of release date, but it is coming...... By “automatic metadata retrieval” I mean download/retrieval from the internet. So, no, you won’t have to manually tag lyrics to all your songs!

In the interest of setting your expectations properly, I have to add that since we are a small company, it will be some time before 3.0 is ready for universal release. But we are committed to building an app/user experience that competes with Roon. As music lovers, we really respect the discovery and metadata implementation/retrieval functionality that Roon has developed."

 

And this conversation convinced me to purchase the W20 instead of a ROON Server.

 

Today, I see that lyrics are still not implemented.  and I am disapointed by those promises not holded...  😞

Where did they say it would be implemented on day 1 of its release? Looks to me lyrics are on the list for this new version. 

[Booster MPS]

Conductor app will never be ROON even if they add lyrics.  ROON is a much deeper, immersive experience for the user.  

[Craig1512]

+1 @Booster MPS . If someone preferes ROON you can setup a ROON based music server system, if you prefer Aurender you get Conductor and there are many other software and hardware music player choices out there. We are lucky in this music play back world that we have many choices and we can test and choose what we prefer and suits our individual needs. I hope that software developers and manufactures continue to provide us with this diversity and choice.

[justubes]

What is or does the extreme mode do?

 

This was available with other Aurenders but not the W20? 

 

 

[Taxman]

6 hours ago, bmichels said:

I upgraded to conductor 3.0 for my W20.

 

New interface looks good, but... I am disapointed: Last year in September 2018, I has a mail exchange with Aurender's Technical Support Manager , about the Lyrics being displayed like ROON does, and the answer was : 

 

"Currently, no, there is no provision for vieing lyrics within the Conductor app. However, Conductor 3.0 is currently under development. It is a complete overhaul that will maintain foundation of the simple Aurender user experience but will incorporate more of the automatic metadata retrieval and implementation that Roon has made essential. A solution for retrieving and displaying song lyrics is included in the long list of features that will be enabled. It is still too soon to talk about any kind of release date, but it is coming...... By “automatic metadata retrieval” I mean download/retrieval from the internet. So, no, you won’t have to manually tag lyrics to all your songs!

In the interest of setting your expectations properly, I have to add that since we are a small company, it will be some time before 3.0 is ready for universal release. But we are committed to building an app/user experience that competes with Roon. As music lovers, we really respect the discovery and metadata implementation/retrieval functionality that Roon has developed."

 

And this conversation convinced me to purchase the W20 instead of a ROON Server.

 

Today, I see that lyrics are still not implemented.  and I am disapointed by those promises not holded...  :-(

 

You should never trust a software developer when it comes to promises about features and timelines 😀

 

I communicated  with Aurender 2015 regarding some improvements around tagging/sorting since I felt the app did a rather poor job in this area. Based on the replies, the impression I got was that improvements in that area were planned. Four years and many conductor-releases later, nothing has happened in this area. Luckily, i moved on to other solutions that suited me better, so my suggestion is that you should make your buying decisions on what the solution provides today - not what you hope it will provide in the future.