fritzg Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 We spend a lot of time tinkering with and arguing about whether or not a system or component sounds better than another. I wonder what our goal is as computer audiophiles. So, here's a poll. You can choose only one. Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 You've missed the actual poll off... Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
fritzg Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 You've missed the actual poll off... Nope, Just took my time making it. Link to comment
fritzg Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 Don't get distracted by the song, album and artists I mentioned. That is just a bit of playfulness on my part. :-) Oh, and "Spin the Balck (sp) Circle" is supposed to be the vinyl answer in case you don't catch the reference. Can't find a way to edit the poll. Link to comment
Musicophile Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Voted for Boy in the Bubble as I actually like Graceland, and I don't have any specific target in mind, beyond the fact that I need to have fun listening to music with it. Check out my blog at musicophilesblog.com - From Keith Jarrett to Johannes Brahms Link to comment
wgscott Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Mine sort of makes a very faint hiss that I can hear if my ear is a couple of inches from the speakers, but fortunately I can't detect it when I am playing music. Still, it kind of bugs me. Link to comment
davidbeinct Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 There's a tradition on a skiing forum I read to always (somewhat) jokingly tell pollsters "Your poll is flawed." Your poll is flawed. Link to comment
fritzg Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 There's a tradition on a skiing forum I read to always (somewhat) jokingly tell pollsters "Your poll is flawed." Your poll is flawed. Every poll is flawed. Link to comment
tranz Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 What poll? --from iPhone app Link to comment
esimms86 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I know what my system sounds like but I don't see a suitable answer amongst the poll offerings(or maybe I'm just nog cool enough to get the references - not the first time for me). I can tell you that my goal is to hear music reproduced with a sound that I would imagine hearing if the performers were in my living room. There are, however, many flaws in that every elusive goal, the largest being that the late 60's to early 70's was when I discovered (mostly pop) music as an individual and communal pursuit. Almost all of those recordings, of course, were made with overdubs and repeatedly bouncing tracks on a for track recorder so that what one got was an arranged reconstruction of multiple performances. How many Todd Rundgrens are in your living room when you listen to "Something/Anything"? Beyond that, digital, for me at least, is all about the convenience. Link to comment
fritzg Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 I know what my system sounds like but I don't see a suitable answer amongst the poll offerings(or maybe I'm just nog cool enough to get the references - not the first time for me). I can tell you that my goal is to hear music reproduced with a sound that I would imagine hearing if the performers were in my living room. There are, however, many flaws in that every elusive goal, the largest being that the late 60's to early 70's was when I discovered (mostly pop) music as an individual and communal pursuit. Almost all of those recordings, of course, were made with overdubs and repeatedly bouncing tracks on a for track recorder so that what one got was an arranged reconstruction of multiple performances. How many Todd Rundgrens are in your living room when you listen to "Something/Anything"? Beyond that, digital, for me at least, is all about the convenience. I'd say you would either choose live concert or original studio recording. Link to comment
Guidof Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Every poll is flawed. But some are more flawed than others. Regards, Guido F. For my system details, please see my profile. Thank you. Link to comment
fritzg Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 Wow, more complaints about the poll than participation. I guess no one wants to have some fun with what we expect out of systems. Way too serious, folks. Link to comment
sandyk Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Mine sort of makes a very faint hiss that I can hear if my ear is a couple of inches from the speakers, but fortunately I can't detect it when I am playing music. Still, it kind of bugs me. Mine has no hiss with ears at the tweeters, or any audible hum. If you are able to, surprisingly perhaps, eradicating that low level hiss will yield a further small audible improvement in low level HF detail and a further improvement with low level ambience. Much younger ears than mine have verified the lack of hiss from the speakers. Many systems have greatly excessive gain though. How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
wwaldmanfan Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Mine sort of makes a very faint hiss that I can hear if my ear is a couple of inches from the speakers, but fortunately I can't detect it when I am playing music. Still, it kind of bugs me. Possibly due to the vacuum tube in the Nova preamp. Link to comment
Jud Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Well, I *do* love how Brothers in Arms sounds, whether I'm spinning vinyl or listening through the digital side of the system. The digital sounds better, but then I have more $$$ there, too (equipment and recording). One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
wgscott Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Possibly due to the vacuum tube in the Nova preamp. It persists with the solid-state version. (When I tried the NAD C390DD, it was absolute silence, but I didn't like the dynamics as much.) Link to comment
livelistenlearn Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 hi fritzg, …like a hi-fi system. that could be more hi-fi. kind of good, but not great. seems closer to “real” after joining CA. ^ partly because bought more stuff. definitely listened more after ^. have not DBT-ed before-and-after. not sure really want to know. btw, how’s yours? cheers. Link to comment
livelistenlearn Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Mine sort of makes a very faint hiss that I can hear if my ear is a couple of inches from the speakers, but fortunately I can't detect it when I am playing music. Still, it kind of bugs me. soundsss like a really high-end system. are you using shunyata cables? cheers. Link to comment
mac_and_dac Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I wonder what our goal is as computer audiophiles. My goal(s): - music reproduction that allows me to listen for hours on end with a sustained feeling of enjoyment rather than growing fatigue - a well integrated sound, i.e. one that doesn't have me obsessing over certain areas of the sound (when I first started buying hifi I tended to listen more to the hifi more than to the music, if you know what I mean) - digital without any trace of harshness or grittiness I'm pretty much there, I think, after 30 years of tinkering! Front End: Neet Airstream Digital Processing: Chord Hugo M-Scaler DAC: Chord Dave Amplification: Cyrus Mono x300 Signatures Speakers: Kudos Titan T88 Link to comment
fritzg Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 My goal(s): - music reproduction that allows me to listen for hours on end with a sustained feeling of enjoyment rather than growing fatigue - a well integrated sound, i.e. one that doesn't have me obsessing over certain areas of the sound (when I first started buying hifi I tended to listen more to the hifi more than to the music, if you know what I mean) - digital without any trace of harshness or grittiness I'm pretty much there, I think, after 30 years of tinkering! You got it!!! The only one so far who embraced the question as to our goal is in this quest for "good sound". Thanks. Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Like a drop of rain on a sun lit spring day! Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
wgscott Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 soundsss like a really high-end system. are you using shunyata cables? cheers. That avatar would be way cooler if it was an animated gif showing a series of frames as wookie or whatever that thing is gnaws off the finger, with arterial bleeding for additional realism. Link to comment
alfe Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 soundsss like a really high-end system. are you using shunyata cables? cheers. Man you are being sarcastic with the king of sarcasm, be ready Edit: to late guns out already:) Link to comment
livelistenlearn Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Man you are being sarcastic with the king of sarcasm, be ready Edit: to late guns out already:) LOL. sometimes you have to try and take on the best to get better. cheers. Link to comment
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