davide256 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Curious to see what tinkerers with NAS file servers think? Regards, Dave Audio system Link to comment
jtwrace Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Curious to see what tinkerers with NAS file servers think? Nope. W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
rodrigaj Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 No. Why should / would it? "The function of music is to release us from the tyranny of conscious thought", Sir Thomas Beecham. Link to comment
Pol Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 It is a real "Must Do" CloneAudio LPSU for QnapHS-251 fanless - UpTone JS2 for MacMini i7 (SD card only-CAD scripts-MMK fan kit-no disc inside- Audirvana2)- JS2 for REGEN - BelCantoRefLink-TotalDacD1tube(Mullard ECC82 NOS) //Halgorythme single end 300b EML //DiY Open Baffle & Leedh Elfe Whee was the last time you did something for the first time? Link to comment
cjf Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Waste of money! My Audio System -Last Updated May 20 2021 Link to comment
tranz Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Waste of money! Not convinced it is. Logically, absolutely. However, experience comparing hard tweaked Mini vs standard Synology both running MinimServer surprisingly and annoyingly resulted with the Mini having a lower noise floor in my setup. Link to comment
firedog Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Possible that a NAS with a quality PS injects less noise back into the AC, and thus does have a positive effect on the SQ? Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
davide256 Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 the "bad gas theorem" applies in my mind to all but the most robustly manufactured products... products designed to operate on "clean fuel" have performance anomalies on "dirty fuel". The question is, are there enough that have tried this to draw a conclusion or is this tried by so few that we have no means to determine. If too few have tried this may hopefully drive some additional experimentation to reach a valid conclusion. Regards, Dave Audio system Link to comment
Boris75 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Possible that a NAS with a quality PS injects less noise back into the AC, and thus does have a positive effect on the SQ? I understand the logic. If I follow this line of reasoning, we should turn off our refrigerators when we listen to music and, for those of us living in condos, we should ask our neighbours to do likewise. Link to comment
davide256 Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 I understand the logic. If I follow this line of reasoning, we should turn off our refrigerators when we listen to music and, for those of us living in condos, we should ask our neighbours to do likewise. Sad but true... that's why Furman and PSAudio are successful in selling power regeneration solutions to feed audio equipment Regards, Dave Audio system Link to comment
Paul R Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 My SAN/NAS is on separate isolated power. Tried a cheap WD NAS but could hear absolutely no difference in SQ. Lots of difference in network performance though, much worse. Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
davide256 Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 My SAN/NAS is on separate isolated power. Tried a cheap WD NAS but could hear absolutely no difference in SQ. Lots of difference in network performance though, much worse. hmm, for network performance, what got better? Regards, Dave Audio system Link to comment
Paul R Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 hmm, for network performance, what got better? I'm sorry, that was unclear. The WD NAS was worse in every regard as a NAS than my normal equipment, power supply not withstanding. Totally recommend avoiding those things, as they are pretty much useless. (*sigh*) And that is, in part, arrogance and elitism on my part, so take it with a large grain of salt. Yours, -Paul Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
Audioclyde Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 My experience is quite different from Paul's. I've recently went from 2 external Oyen Minipro FW drives to a WD My Cloud EX2 suedo NAS--much quieter (music wise, the Oyen's are plenty quiet mechanically) and overall SQ has definitely improved. Thus, I wouldn't take any 1 single opinion as an absolute. While sharing our experiences/opinions can be quite helpful, it's important that each of our systems, equipment, rooms & tastes differ. Link to comment
sandyk Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Sad but true... that's why Furman and PSAudio are successful in selling power regeneration solutions to feed audio equipment A DIY person could try using a double adaptor for the offending refrigerator, where a V.D.R (voltage Dependent Resistor) is wired across A & N in the double adaptor. A 275V rated VDR should suffice for a 230V AC mains supply. How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
mayhem13 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I'd say if you were concerned with system stability, component life and data corruption, a better performing power supply is a good investment. For SQ IMO, there's no advantage. Link to comment
Jim Sylva Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I'd say if you were concerned with system stability, component life and data corruption, a better performing power supply is a good investment. Thanks, Mayhem. It has not occurred to me that a better power supply could increase the reliability of a NAS, but intuitively, it makes sense. I have a Synology 411slim+, and I am beginning to become concerned about its longevity. I have noticed its fan is now audible, a change that has occurred over the last six months. Jim Harlan Howard's definition of a great country song: "Three chords and the truth." Link to comment
AlainGr Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Not that I am versed in NAS, but I blow air in my PC about once a year and it helps a lot to maintain the fans quieter... But at some point, the fan(s) may need to be replaced... Alain Link to comment
Jim Sylva Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Not that I am versed in NAS, but I blow air in my PC about once a year and it helps a lot to maintain the fans quieter... But at some point, the fan(s) may need to be replaced... Thanks for the suggestion. I will see if I can find access to the fan. Jim Harlan Howard's definition of a great country song: "Three chords and the truth." Link to comment
AlainGr Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Just a word of caution (just in case)... I heard that some people used a vacuum cleaner for the task and have "burned" the circuitry of the component they were trying to clean (from static charges)... I use a compressor that I have to do this... It can be tricky... And it you try it, be cautious about the pressure you apply... Better start with low pressure first, not to break a part... I would not use a "tuner cleaner" spray for this - some are harmful for plastics... Alain Link to comment
Jim Sylva Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Just a word of caution (just in case)... I heard that some people used a vacuum cleaner for the task and have "burned" the circuitry of the component they were trying to clean (from static charges)... I use a compressor that I have to do this... It can be tricky... And it you try it, be cautious about the pressure you apply... Better start with low pressure first, not to break a part... I would not use a "tuner cleaner" spray for this - some are harmful for plastics... Thanks. I appreciate the caveats and tips. Jim Harlan Howard's definition of a great country song: "Three chords and the truth." Link to comment
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