bball3748 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I'm looking to add a computer as a source to my dad's stereo. He has a DAC already with an extra optical input so I'm looking at MACs with the optical output. We tried it with a borrowed Macbook and it sounded good. He wants to set it up with a Mac through the optical output for as little $ as possible. The computer would be dedicated so as long as it can handle audio it'll work. I saw some Mac Pro G3 desktops with around 500 mhz for less that $30 on ebay. Would something that slow/old work and does it have optical out? (I'm under the impression the G4 does) Basically, what are the recommendations for the cheapest old Mac that I could pick up but would still sound good via the optical out as a dedicated audio computer? Could it be done for less than $50? Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 www.macupgrades.co.uk have details of Macs since about the original iMac (maybe even before). IIRC some of the later G4 PowerMacs have optical out - try to get one with Tiger restore disks and do a clean install of Tiger for best performance. Eloise Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
silverarrows Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 What about an Apple TV then? You can get a refurb one for a pretty decent price. Plus it's a current product so it's still supported. Link to comment
bball3748 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 Thanks for the link Eloise. I looked at some of the G4s and didn't see any optical digital out on them. I'm starting to think that I might have to get a G5 (but those are a lot of money) I'm not really sure what apple tv would do because I'd still need to buy a computer too. Link to comment
Codifus Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 I use and airport express to optically feed my EMU-0404. Like the AppleTV, the Airport Express provides an optical output and their limitation is that they only deal with 16/44.1 audio data, nothing higher. It's very cheap, I actually got the G4 for free and only bought the airport express on ebay for about $70. You are correct in that no PowerMac G4s have optical outputs. CD Link to comment
cfmsp Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 If macupgrades.co.uk doesn't have info for models you hope to investigate, try everymac.com. clay Link to comment
emmodad Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 if looking for used macs, lowendmac.com is another helpful resource wrt tech specs / model history / market pricing Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Of course - you could buy any old G4 and add an M-Audio Transit for £50 (Amazon) or a TC Konnect 8 for £230 (also Amazon). {Edit - Sorry the TC Konnekt 8 only has coax not optical output, you need the Konnekt 24D for optical} Eloise Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
bball3748 Posted August 17, 2009 Author Share Posted August 17, 2009 Looks I can get some type of converter like M-audio or Airport for a cheap enough price. I would want 24/96 so that seems to eliminate the Airport/Apple TV. There are a lot of cheap devices that turn usb into SPDIF/Toslink but I'm not sure I want to invest in a USB device until this Asynch stuff is figured out. I can probably baby a few more years out of the old Esoteric transport I'm using that'll buy me enough time to monitor the Asynch USB for a while. And if that turns out really well I'll have to consider that. If it doesn't really settle for a while then I can always pick up a Mac Pro G5. Thanks for clarifying my questions about the Macs - now I know which have the optical out. Link to comment
bball3748 Posted September 6, 2009 Author Share Posted September 6, 2009 I didn't want to start a new thread because it's related. I found an Imac G3 DV 400 mhz version for practically nothing. If I'm using a dac that works with USB 1.1 which is what this mac has would there be any problems you could see with audio quality or being too slow with a computer this old? I could make it dedicated to audio so I won't slow it down with other stuff. So should I buy it or should I wait for something a little newer? Link to comment
Codifus Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 My first computer based music server was based on iTunes 6 on a G3 running jaguar 10.2.8. Then one day I tried to buy a 256K AAC file from the Apple store and was forced to upgrade to iTunes 7. Everything went downhill from there. Itunes 7 was not quite right on a G3. Sound quality suffered immensely. I read the minimum system requirements and it said a 400 Mhz G4. I upgraded to a 733 Mhz G4 and all was good again. iTunes 8 is now the most current and I would not recommend a G3 at all. CD Link to comment
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