PAP Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 There are so many great sounding albums from the late 50'and early 60'. What is the reason they sound so good. Better tape? Better microphones? Better engineers? Better musicians? One room recordings no overdubs? Very simple consoles? Direct to 2 or 3 track recording. Different vinyl conversion? Link to comment
firedog Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 1. Sound engineers and producers who knew about and cared about good sound. 2. Recorded largely live with few or no overdubs 3. Simple 1, 2 or 3 track recordings, little mixing and processing if at all; just some editing. Equipment wasn't better than today's - in fact the opposite. [ATTACH=CONFIG]16378[/ATTACH] There are so many great sounding albums from the late 50'and early 60'. What is the reason they sound so good. Better tape? Better microphones? Better engineers? Better musicians? One room recordings no overdubs? Very simple consoles? Direct to 2 or 3 track recording. Different vinyl conversion? Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
esimms86 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Musician's listening to some of each other's best work and effectively driving each other. Same thing happened in the pop music world in the late sixties. Link to comment
Nikhil Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 There are so many great sounding albums from the late 50'and early 60'. What is the reason they sound so good. Better tape? Better microphones? Better engineers? Better musicians? One room recordings no overdubs? Very simple consoles? Direct to 2 or 3 track recording. Different vinyl conversion? I don't think we can ever place the cart before the horse! For whatever reason the musicians at the time were second to none. It's a little more nuanced to talk about the sound engineering because without a doubt the technical advances that have been made since then have been enormous. But still at the end of the day, the content - the material the sound engineer has to work with - is still more important. Custom Win10 Server | Mutec MC-3+ USB | Lampizator Amber | Job INT | ATC SCM20PSL + JL Audio E-Sub e110 Link to comment
qimesofas Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 well,Same thing happened in the pop music world in the late sixties.thanks Link to comment
PAP Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Someone told me that at the end of the 60's they started mastering differently in order to fit more music on to the LP's. Any truth in that? Link to comment
gstanley75 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 90% musicians 9% producer snd engineer 1% technology Link to comment
Allan F Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Musician's listening to some of each other's best work and effectively driving each other. Same thing happened in the pop music world in the late sixties. Outstanding musicians is, IMO, by far the most important factor. In addition, however, the work of people like Rudy Van Gelder in capturing the performances with a sound quality that impresses to this day cannot be ignored. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
PAP Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 Outstanding musicians is, IMO, by far the most important factor. In addition, however, the work of people like Rudy Van Gelder in capturing the performances with a sound quality that impresses to this day cannot be ignored. Somewhere someone mentioned that Rudy's recordings did not have a very pleasant piano sound. Horns and drums are excellent but the piano sound is ''boxed in''. I tend to agree. Or is there RVG recording with a great piano sound that I missed? Suggestions? Link to comment
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