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Why is my router shown as a music library


JeremyP99

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Hi,

 

I'm new to the forum, and new to streaming music; retired for some years I was in IT for 25 years, and am well versed in Windows up to W7.

 

Here's the deal. I installed a Marantz M-CR510 the other day, to serve my huge music (4Gb+) library. I started by using Windows Media to handle this, but it's clunky and doesn't handle flac files. I then tried using MediaMonkey, but that played all the music as mp3 :-(

 

So, I tried out Twonky and that works fine.

 

However, since using WM, when the music libraries are displayed on the Mrantz box, as well as the one I have defined using Twonky, my router is shown as well for some inexplicable reason.

 

Whilst this is only a cosmetic problem, I'd like to disappear it if possible!

 

Any thoughts on what's happening here?

 

Shuttle SX38 box, W7 x64 always up to date.

 

Thanks in advance

 

JP

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According to the manual, the Technicolor router has a DLNA server function:

 

"The Technicolor Gateway allows you to share the content stored on your USB storage device with other users on your network or even access this shared content from the Internet." (Chapter 7)

 

"The Network File Server is enabled by default and ready for use."

 

http://help.demon.net/files/2013/03/TG582n-User-Guide.pdf

 

If you don't want to see it as a media server on the network, you must deactivate that function in the configuration menu of the router.

Claude

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According to the manual, the Technicolor router has a DLNA server function:

 

"The Technicolor Gateway allows you to share the content stored on your USB storage device with other users on your network or even access this shared content from the Internet." (Chapter 7)

 

"The Network File Server is enabled by default and ready for use."

 

http://help.demon.net/files/2013/03/TG582n-User-Guide.pdf

 

If you don't want to see it as a media server on the network, you must deactivate that function in the configuration menu of the router.

 

Claude - thanks; I had assumed that I had to have that ON as I was using DNLA via the router. Thanks for the advice, I'll try that. It's a cosmetic problem only, but as other members of our household are technically illiterate :-) I'd rather have that entry out of the way. I'll report back!

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Hi JP

 

I can confirm Claude's findings, as I too have a Technicolor Gateway TG582n (disguised as my previous & defunct ISP's provided O2 Wireless Box 5) and have actually tried out the its UPnP media server for attached USB storage. Don't bother with it, at least not for music, as it doesn't support common music file types such as FLAC.

 

BTW, shame you didn't get to know about the excellent free (donationware) music dedicated UPnP media server, MinimServer, before you got Twonky (and presumably purchased its license), see:

MinimServer features

 

John

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Thanks for that. I've disabled UPNP on the router, and restarted it.It's still listed on the media box, and as a "media device" on Network in Explorer. So no go on that -:-(

 

That's odd. It should have done the trick. Only when a sharing service is running will a device be recognized as a media server. Have you restarted the clients (media box, computer) as well?

Claude

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Indeed, very odd.

 

JP, are you certain you've switched off the router's UPnP AV media server? Sounds like you may have switched off the UPnP port mappiing mechanism (required for some types of online gaming, etc), instead. They have completely different functions.

 

My TG582n's firmware has the UPnP media server's setup in the Content Sharing section, in the Toolbox (whereas the UPnP port mapper's setup is in the Toolbox's Port Forwarding section).

 

 

 

Will look at Minim - Twonky was very cheap really.
MinimServer is certainly worth looking at. It's recommended by most of the streamer users on this site, as it's tailored specifically for music, is very configurable, reliable and can be run on many types of networked devices. It also has excellent support.

We are far more united and have far more in common with each other than things that divide us.

-- Jo Cox

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Hi - I disabled UPNP in the Game and Application sharing part of Toolbox. I can't see a "content sharing" option at all, I'm afraid. I have acestream and utorrent enabled in the Assigned Games & Applications setup, but can't see anything about an UPNP AV player!

 

Minim I have just installed, and it blows up on opening with a Java exception :-( Just registering the Minim forum to find what's that's about. Not too keen on running Java, but... if I can get Minim going I'll check it out.

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Wow, what a can of worms you seemed to have opened up!

 

Found a couple of links, hope they're useful:

Content Sharing settings (apparently only available on PlusNet's 582n supplied for Fibre broadband, for some strange reason)

Technicolor 582: How to check or change advanced settings

 

Firmware upgrade

Is it possible upgrade my Technicolor TG582n Firmware to any New Versions ?? | Community Site

We are far more united and have far more in common with each other than things that divide us.

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Always been good at that :-) I worked for many years for a company specialising in software for libraries. I was always taken to exhibitions, despite being a behind the scenes techie, as I was always able to break our competitors' systems :-). Thanks for the links - I'll check those out whilst awaiting a reply from PlusNet regarding the router settings and firmware. I've registered as well for the Minim server forum, but have not as yet got an acknowledgement email (asked for a resend as well), to find out about the Java error, so I'm stuck on that as well. And I donated £10 when I downloaded it! One of those days...

 

OH - and we are on ADSL, not fibre broadband as well! So I shouldn't be seeing the router as a music server anyway, just to confuse matters.

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LOL, you remind me of a good friend of mine who has similar sorts of incidents with whatever he touches, despite (or probably more likely, because of, as he's forever fiddling with the remote, touch screen controls, etc) being a techie. He's been banned from controlling any of our home's devices and certainly wouldn't trust him even using my mobile for a call!

 

I believe the latest version of MinimServer doesn't work the Java Runtime Environment older than version 7 (it's always a good idea to keep it updated for security reasons, anyway). It's certainly ok with the latest version 8 of JRE on my Windows 7 machine (even managed to 'riskily' install JRE 8 on my old XP laptop plus MinimServer without any problems).

 

BTW, if you have indeed zapped Java with that mysterious ray of yours, you're actually in good hands by requesting help from MinimServer's developer. He's none other than Simon Nash, IBM's ex Chief Technical Officer for Java!

We are far more united and have far more in common with each other than things that divide us.

-- Jo Cox

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Well, despite the router firmware upgrade not adding the "content sharing" option, the router entry has disappeared from my media streaming box. So that's a plus. Still no ack message from the Minim forum so I may have to register with another email address. I use my hotmail address for forums, and quite often find I get no ack message when registering, for whatever reason - and it's not going into my spam folder. Irritating. But as my mum used to say - "worse things happen at sea" :-)

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