Jabs1542 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I have seen where other members have recommended that it is okay to rip your CD/SACD collection as long as you keep the originals. I think the premise was that you could prove you "owned" the music outright and made a "backup copy" on your music server. My questions is - what of all the music I have been downloading over the past year? I have no proof of ownership so what do you do if the Feds come knocking on your door (not that they would)? I guess I could probably dig out enough emails to show as receipts, so should I be keeping and cataloging these receipts? Analog: Koetsu Rosewood > VPI Aries 3 w/SDS > EAR 834P > EAR 834L: Audiodesk cleaner Digital Fun: DAS > CAPS v3 w/LPS (JRMC) SOtM USB > Lynx Hilo > EAR 834L Digital Serious: DAS > CAPS v3 w/LPS (HQPlayer) Ethernet > SMS-100 NAA > Lampi DSD L4 G5 > EAR 834L Digital Disc: Oppo BDP 95 > EAR 834L Output: EAR 834L > Xilica XP4080 DSP > Odessey Stratos Mono Extreme > Legacy Aeris Phones: EAR 834L > Little Dot Mk ii > Senheiser HD 800 Link to comment
new_media Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The burden of proof would be on the state to prove that you had NOT obtained them legally. I'm much more paranoid about all of my multiple backups failing than I am of being accused of copyright infringement. Link to comment
CatManDo Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 In Europe the rules are different (there are some national differences though) - You are allowed to make copies of your music for personal use, except from copyprotected discs (SACD, Blu-ray, DVD) - You can keep the copies even if you sell the originals. Unlike software, the music is not licensed to the buyer. It's the law (and jurisprudence) which determines what you can do with a CD. It allows you to copy it for personal use, and it allows you to sell it. There is no link between those two acts, like losing the right to use the copies of you sell the originals. Of course you can only sell an original, not a copy. For the files you keep, there is a presumption that they are legit, unless somebody challenges that you obtained them legally (for example with the proof that you downloaded them from an illegal source) Claude Link to comment
Allan F Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 In Europe the rules are different (there are some national differences though) - You are allowed to make copies of your music for personal use, except from copyprotected discs (SACD, Blu-ray, DVD) - You can keep the copies even if you sell the originals. Obviously, copyright law will vary by jurisdiction. But I can't see the difference between making and selling a copy and keeping a copy and selling the original. If the former is illegal, I would expect the latter to be too. In both cases, you would appear to have gone beyond simply making a copy for your own personal use. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
prot Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Obviously, copyright law will vary by jurisdiction. But I can't see the difference between making and selling a copy and keeping a copy and selling the original. If the former is illegal, I would expect the latter to be too. In both cases, you would appear to have gone beyond simply making a copy for your own personal use. Law & logic arent always the same ... and copyright laws are generally nonsense. http://www.free-culture.cc if you wanna know more from the experts. Link to comment
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