blownsi Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Perhaps I'm cheap but I just can't justify $20/mo for Tidal. Considering that it seems to have a smaller selection than Spotify which is free (with ads) or half the price. I'm curious what others think. Link to comment
wgscott Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Yes. Netflix is $7/mo. I think Spotify is too expensive for the amount I used it. Link to comment
jtwrace Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Yes, I just cancelled my subscription. A poll would have been perfect for this thread. W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
kumakuma Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I also cancelled my subscription. I might have continued if I didn't already have over 70,000 songs in my collection already. So much music, so little time... Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
Allan F Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I also cancelled my subscription. I might have continued if I didn't already have over 70,000 songs in my collection already. So much music, so little time... That's the issue, isn't it. If you expect to be buying a lot of new music in the future, TIDAL is a great alternative to buying CDs or downloads. Unlike Spotify which only offers MP3, Tidal currently offers CD quality and intends to offer hi res streaming in the future. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
kumakuma Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 That's the issue, isn't it. If you expect to be buying a lot of new music in the future, TIDAL is a great alternative to buying CDs or downloads. Unlike Spotify which only offers MP3, Tidal currently offers CD quality and intends to offer hi res streaming in the future. The other issue for me is that I like to own things, even if it's just a download. Not really into renting my music. Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
wgscott Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Get soundflower and Audacity and make a backup. Link to comment
kumakuma Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Get soundflower and Audacity and make a backup. I still have a few songs "backed up" on my iPhone as offline content. I just need to make sure data and Wifi are off whenever I start the Tidal app as I'm sure they will disappear once the app is able to call home. Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
Forehaven Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Count me in too as too spendy. I did like the service and quality, I just don't feel like paying $20/mos...times are tough. Ryzen 7 2700 PC Server, NUC7CJYH w. 4G Apacer RAM as Renderer/LPS 1.2 - IsoRegen/LPS-1/.2 - Singxer SU-1/LPS1.2 - Holo Spring Level 3 DAC - LTA MicroZOTL MZ2 - Modwright KWA 150 Signature Amp - Tidal Audio Piano's. . Link to comment
maelob Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I think i will pay the 20 dollars rather than pay hundreds each month in buying. i dont own the stuff but i dont care. i have only around 400 cds and most of them i dont even listen to. So 20 sounds good for me. But i think 10 dollars would be nice LOL Link to comment
oso Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 [h=1]Spotify Reveals How Much, or How Little, It Pays Per Stream[/h][h=2]A stream pays out less than a penny, and how much goes to musicians and songwriters is unclear[/h]Can help but wonder why musicians and composers are getting such a bad deal: Spotify Reveals How Much, or How Little, It Pays Per Stream | SPIN | Music News Link to comment
nick77 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Another vote for too pricey, Ill pass thank you! Holo Spring Kitsume Level 3, Singxer SU-1 Link to comment
james45974 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 the public is being pecked to death by sparrows, $10 subscription here and $20 there, everything from extra high tier cable TV, movie and music streaming services, computer software, websites, there has to be a saturation point somewhere, people will eventually stop Jim Link to comment
jp11801 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 absolutely not too expensive, yeah I'd rather it be 10 or 15 per month but $20 feels fair. I buy on average $100 plus a month of music. Of the CDs I buy 70-80% I probably listen to them once or twice. Tidal gives me great access to a much wider library that I own and I have 2 TB of AIFF plus another 1TB of FLAC. It will absolutely reduce cd clutter while giving me better access to more music. So far I am a fan Link to comment
Jimmypowder Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I think the sweet spot is 15/month . Tidal is missing a lot of music . More importantly , about 80 % of their library is lossless . I ran into several albums that sounded no better than Spotify . Link to comment
Jimmypowder Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 the public is being pecked to death by sparrows, $10 subscription here and $20 there, everything from extra high tier cable TV, movie and music streaming services, computer software, websites, there has to be a saturation point somewhere, people will eventually stop I agree with this . People are getting subscription fatigue . I know I am . I see an app with monthly sub , I avoid it . I'm not talking music services here . It seems everyone wants to be sub based . Why ? Cause they can sit back and do nothing and watch the money roll in . Link to comment
kumakuma Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Quick update. I have been listening to Tidal offline content on my phone for a few weeks after canceling my subscription. I got a message today saying the offline content had expired and I needed to login. Deleted the Tidal app and downloaded songs from my phone. Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
MarkS Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I also think it is a bit too high, debut I like it so far. - Mark Synology DS916+ > SoTM dCBL-CAT7 > Netgear switch > SoTM dCBL-CAT7 > dCS Vivaldi Upsampler (Nordost Valhalla 2 power cord) > Nordost Valhalla 2 Dual 110 Ohm AES/EBU > dCS Vivaldi DAC (David Elrod Statement Gold power cord) > Nordost Valhalla 2 xlr > Absolare Passion preamp (Nordost Valhalla 2 power cord) > Nordost Valhalla 2 xlr > VTL MB-450 III (Shunyata King Cobra CX power cords) > Nordost Valhalla 2 speaker > Kaiser Kaewero Classic /JL Audio F110 (Wireworld Platinum power cord). Power Conditioning: Entreq Olympus Tellus grounding (AC, preamp and dac) / Shunyata Hydra Triton + Typhoon (Shunyata Anaconda ZiTron umbilical/Shunyata King Cobra CX power cord) > Furutec GTX D-Rhodium AC outlet. Link to comment
InfernoSTi Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I'm fine with the price now that I have it playing through an Auralic Aries. When I had it via JRiver on my CAPS it was too unwieldy to enjoy and while my iPhone was nice, I had to AirPlay it to my second system and never really enjoyed that much. The interface with the Aires looks and feels just like my music library. Examples in my "favorites" albums that I would have purchased this month are: Avonmore by Bryan Ferry, Barragn by Blonde Redhead, Classics by She & Him, Stoked On You by The Aquadolls, Guitar in the Space Age by Bill Frisell, and Elliott Smith by Elliot Smith. That is five "new" albums and one "old" album. I'd put the value at that well above $60. I just need to average two "new" albums, or four "used" albums, or a combo such as one "new" and two "used" albums) saved per month. I think we can track that pretty easily and I've got three months worth this month alone. Factor the added value of the iPhone app for travel and it is a simple call. I'm getting my money's worth easily. And I'm finding new music that I would never have found otherwise. The better your home interface, the more you value the service, at least for me. The iPhone is a bonus. John P.S. I've added Doolittle 25 (B-Sides, Peel Sessions, and Demos) released 11/30/14 to my favorites while I was typing this: another "new" album added in the first two weeks of the the month. Positive emotions enhance our musical experiences. Synology DS213+ NAS -> Auralic Vega w/Linear Power Supply -> Auralic Vega DAC (Symposium Jr rollerball isolation) -> XLR -> Auralic Taurus Pre -> XLR -> Pass Labs XA-30.5 power amplifier (on 4" maple and 4 Stillpoints) -> Hawthorne Audio Reference K2 Speakers in MTM configuration (Symposium Jr HD rollerball isolation) and Hawthorne Audio Bass Augmentation Baffles (Symposium Jr rollerball isolation) -> Bi-amped w/ two Rythmic OB plate amps) -> Extensive Room Treatments (x2 SRL Acoustics Prime 37 diffusion plus key absorption and extensive bass trapping) and Pi Audio Uberbuss' for the front end and amplification Link to comment
IQ_AV Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I'm fine with the price now that I have it playing through an Auralic Aries. When I had it via JRiver on my CAPS it was too unwieldy to enjoy and while my iPhone was nice, I had to AirPlay it to my second system and never really enjoyed that much. The interface with the Aires looks and feels just like my music library. Examples in my "favorites" albums that I would have purchased this month are: Avonmore by Bryan Ferry, Barragn by Blonde Redhead, Classics by She & Him, Stoked On You by The Aquadolls, Guitar in the Space Age by Bill Frisell, and Elliott Smith by Elliot Smith. That is five "new" albums and one "old" album. I'd put the value at that well above $60. I just need to average two "new" albums, or four "used" albums, or a combo such as one "new" and two "used" albums) saved per month. I think we can track that pretty easily and I've got three months worth this month alone. Factor the added value of the iPhone app for travel and it is a simple call. I'm getting my money's worth easily. And I'm finding new music that I would never have found otherwise. The better your home interface, the more you value the service, at least for me. The iPhone is a bonus. John P.S. I've added Doolittle 25 (B-Sides, Peel Sessions, and Demos) released 11/30/14 to my favorites while I was typing this: another "new" album added in the first two weeks of the the month. I do not have this service yet. $20 is high for me but I am becoming a fan of hi-res music and regretting the choice of ripping 200+ cds in MP3. I can see the argument of access to music that I would not have as well as have better access to the music that I had or have. Say for example, I just bought Steeltown, a Big country album from iTunes and the Tidal version sounds so much better. I am leaning towards subscribing it. I do have Amazon Prime and also use Google Music for cloud storage for music. So at this point, leaning towards shelling out $240/year for this service. Reference -> WIIM Pro Plus powered by Larry's HDPlex-> CA DacMagic Plus -> AudioResearch DS225 Audioquest XLR -> Sonus Faber Olympica 2 Kimber Speaker Wire Family Room -> ALOO DIGIONE -> SPDF-> Onkyo TX-NR609 -> 7.1 In Wall Polk Audio SVS Sub (Home Theatre) Living Room-> BlueSound NODE Gen3-> Carver THX Amp -> NHT Zero + SVS SB-1000 (LivingRoom) Link to comment
bobbmd Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 not too expensive Qobuz is 19.99 EUROS/month the sound quality soundstage separation especially when either TIDAL or Qubuz are played through Amarra sQ ver2.0 out to a DAC is extraordinary far better than pandora,spotify or beats music but IMHO the bottom line is the Amarra sQ ver2.0 it also improves SIRIUS substantially especially celtic crush and idiots delight I don't buy cd's or download hirez so I listen to my 800+ cd's on itunes/jriver but spend most of my time on one the 'lossless' streamers Link to comment
maelob Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 The issue for me is that i am willing to pay 20 USD, but they need to fix all the bugs my god, really frustrating, too many dropouts with my macbook, and i am not the only one having issues with unreliable straming. Link to comment
new_media Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I still prefer to buy a lot of music and use Beats to preview albums. $10/month feels like the sweet spot for me to be able to preview albums I might buy or listen to the occasional track that I have no intention of buying. I attended a Halloween party and the host had a Sonos system, so I was able to build a Halloween playlist on the fly using people's suggestions at the party. Pretty cool. I hope Apple doesn't kill the golden goose with whatever they are planning next year. Link to comment
Jimmypowder Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Tidal is too expensive if you spent most of this evening like I did listening to dropouts ,skips and pops on the Mac desktop app or the web player . and that's with very strong internet speed 150/20 Mbps . Until they fix this I will not be a long time subscriber Also the download speed sometimes slows to a complete crawl . There is a lot of work to be done with this service . Link to comment
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