Boris75 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 In its resolution BS.1284-1, the General Assembly of the ITU adopted guidelines for the subjective assessment of sound quality. Would it make sense for reviewers to try and follow them inasmuch as possible? Here are a couple of examples of what this standard has to say: Location accuracy: The subjective impression that all sound sources are accurately positioned in the sound image. (...) Timbre: The subjective impression of the accurate portrayal of the different sound characteristics of the sound source(s). Link to comment
orgel Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 There's something about the notion of an international standard for subjective assessment of anything that makes me want to bang my head against the wall. --David Listening Room: Mac mini (Roon Core) > iMac (HQP) > exaSound PlayPoint (as NAA) > exaSound e32 > W4S STP-SE > Benchmark AHB2 > Wilson Sophia Series 2 (Details) Office: Mac Pro > AudioQuest DragonFly Red > JBL LSR305 Mobile: iPhone 6S > AudioQuest DragonFly Black > JH Audio JH5 Link to comment
Stereolab42 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Somewhere out there an EU bureaucrat is preparing to make this guideline mandatory and start arresting dissenting audio reviewers. Link to comment
semente Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Somewhere out there an EU bureaucrat is preparing to make this guideline mandatory and start arresting dissenting audio reviewers. That made me laugh. Cheers, R "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes Link to comment
Paul R Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Well, my initial impulse was to vote no, but after skimming through the document, it looks to me like everything in it makes very good sense. Of course, I can't see ten audio "experts" agreeing on anything. Much less the sound of a new device. (grin) Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
Allan F Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I voted "No" because I simply can't envisage agreement or consensus on what the subjective standards or terminology should be. While I can appreciate the goal of such an approach, the notion of imposing standards on subjectivity can be viewed as tending toward the oxymoronic. OTOH, I'd be glad to be proven wrong. Of course, to an extent, there is some terminology that has broad acceptance, e.g. timbre, tone, PRAT, depth of sound stage, etc. Agreement on how to rate those criteria is another matter. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
speavler Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Perhaps a standard checklist that accompanies each review. Such as Veil lifted: ____ If veil lifted, number of veils: ___ Punches above its weight: ____ Spouse recognized improvement in sound: ____ Reviewer Will__Will not __be returning demo unit etc etc Link to comment
orgel Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Perhaps a standard checklist that accompanies each review. Such as Veil lifted: ____ If veil lifted, number of veils: ___ Punches above its weight: ____ Spouse recognized improvement in sound: ____ Reviewer Will__Will not __be returning demo unit etc etc Can we add ... Like night and day? [] Yes [] No The difference was [] subtle [] not subtle --David Listening Room: Mac mini (Roon Core) > iMac (HQP) > exaSound PlayPoint (as NAA) > exaSound e32 > W4S STP-SE > Benchmark AHB2 > Wilson Sophia Series 2 (Details) Office: Mac Pro > AudioQuest DragonFly Red > JBL LSR305 Mobile: iPhone 6S > AudioQuest DragonFly Black > JH Audio JH5 Link to comment
pdvm Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 LOL at last two comments For headphone gear, add "authority of the grabbing" Link to comment
wgscott Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 There's something about the notion of an international standard for subjective assessment of anything that makes me want to bang my head against the wall. --David I had the exact same reaction (apart from it being my head -- no offense.) Link to comment
RealAudio Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Seems like they have assembled a reasonable set of guidelines. For all you objecting kibitzers, specifically what do you object to. What would you add or remove or change? Link to comment
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