wgscott Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I am thinking of getting a portable standing desk for the primary listening position, because of all the potential problems associated with sitting on one's arse. I'm testing this out with a wobbly music stand and laptop at the moment. This would take some getting used to, but I have a lot of problems sitting still to begin with... Link to comment
Blake Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I do, Monday through Friday, around 8 hours or more per day. I have a stand-up desk at work and use a Focal XS 2.1 system with the sub sitting on the floor by my desk. I have been using a stand-up desk for almost 14 years now. The stand-up desk is a necessity for me as I have a bulging disc in my lower back and the stand-up desk almost completely alleviates the pain. If not for the stand-up desk I would have had to have surgery many years ago. Plus, you have all the other health benefits from not sitting all day. Go for it! Speaker Room: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Golden Gate 2.5 | Viva Linea | Constellation Inspiration Stereo 1.0 | FinkTeam Kim | Revel subs Office Headphone System: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Golden Gate 2 | Viva Egoista | Hifiman HE-1000SE/Audeze LCD-4z Link to comment
elcorso Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Be seated most of the day doesn't bring you spine, neck and back problems only, but circulatory problems, than could be worst to those on the spine over the years. Even to people that exercise one hour per day. I have serious circulatory problems thanks to my DNA then I read a lot about, from reliable studies, like universities research. Roch PS/ You burn also more energy (calories) standing up that seated, even I you don't move. Link to comment
wgscott Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 I agree. I don't have back problems, but I definitely should burn more calories. I'm finding it a bit hard on the legs, but overall an improvement. (Everything that I do now hurts at first, even trying a new pair of shoes, so this isn't a worry.). Link to comment
wgscott Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/health/sitting/Sitting.pdf Link to comment
jtwrace Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Some also add treadmills to their standing position. Just moving at 1mph is helpful. W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
wgscott Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Some also add treadmills to their standing position. Just moving at 1mph is helpful. Fortunately, my job is a treadmill. I just added in this: Link to comment
wdw Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I agree. I don't have back problems, but I definitely should burn more calories. I'm finding it a bit hard on the legs, but overall an improvement. (Everything that I do now hurts at first, even trying a new pair of shoes, so this isn't a worry.). Love that great line by Leonard Cohen "...I ache in the places where I used to play..." Link to comment
Skeptic Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I'm not saying that sitting all day is good for you, but many of the problems in that infographic are due to poor posture when sitting - and forcing yourself to "sit up straight" is not necessarily a good thing either. A lot of the new research has shown benefits to reclining in chairs rather than sitting up straight - that's why most new office chair designs encourage it. More recent studies have also started to show that standing all day can be just as bad for you as sitting all day due to this trend of people switching to standing desks, and sitting on an inflatable ball or doing things which intentionally keep you off-balance is not really helpful. What's more important than one or the other is moderation. Don't force yourself into one position all day regardless of what it is. Sit-stand desks are better than standing desks. If you're going to be standing all day, you should have flat shoes with a thin sole, and should think about getting an anti-fatigue mat. (nothing more than about 3/4" thick) P.S. You have geotagging enabled on your iPad Mini, so you might want to remove that image unless you want to give away your address. Link to comment
wgscott Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 P.S. You have geotagging enabled on your iPad Mini, so you might want to remove that image unless you want to give away your address. Thank. Now how to? Link to comment
Blake Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 More recent studies have also started to show that standing all day can be just as bad for you as sitting all day due to this trend of people switching to standing desks, and sitting on an inflatable ball or doing things which intentionally keep you off-balance is not really helpful. My stand-up desk goes up and down. I do break up my standing with shorter sitting sessions throughout the day. Based upon what I have read, I think some of your comments above go too far. First, I don't think anyone proposes literally standing up all day. Rather, moderation or more standing vs. sitting is what most do. Second, I have not read any study that supports your assertion that standing all day can be just as bad as sitting all day. From what I have read, the negative results of too much sitting are definitely more hazardous than the negative consequences of too much standing. If you have some links to share, I would be interested to read studies showing too much standing and too much sitting to be equally hazardous. Right now, I believe the optimal scenario is spending the majority of the day standing (I am not advocating standing all day). Speaker Room: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Golden Gate 2.5 | Viva Linea | Constellation Inspiration Stereo 1.0 | FinkTeam Kim | Revel subs Office Headphone System: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Golden Gate 2 | Viva Egoista | Hifiman HE-1000SE/Audeze LCD-4z Link to comment
Panelhead Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I am thinking of getting a portable standing desk for the primary listening position, because of all the potential problems associated with sitting on one's arse. I'm testing this out with a wobbly music stand and laptop at the moment. This would take some getting used to, but I have a lot of problems sitting still to begin with... If in a new listening environment, I always move around standing up to find a sweet spot. At home I use DRC and place the measurement mike exactly where my head is for normal listening to get the room calibrations. My work involves travel, plus it is veery unprofessional to play music at satisfactory listening levels in the office environment. I may more one of the office systems to work, but it will only see <80 dB playback. I have a Martin Logan, Quad, several Blue Sky, couple JVC Woodcone Executive, and Yamaha system in the attic. Just zero time to listen. I doubt the KRK Expose 8 and BS Sat 8 and sub 212 need to be in my thin walled office. 2012 Mac Mini, i5 - 2.5 GHz, 16 GB RAM. SSD, PM/PV software, Focusrite Clarett 4Pre 4 channel interface. Daysequerra M4.0X Broadcast monitor., My_Ref Evolution rev a , Klipsch La Scala II, Blue Sky Sub 12 Clarett used as ADC for vinyl rips. Corning Optical Thunderbolt cable used to connect computer to 4Pre. Dac fed by iFi iPower and Noise Trapper isolation transformer. Link to comment
tne Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Of course. It is too difficult to dance while sitting down. You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star Link to comment
spdif-usb Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 No, but the sound of Redbook CD always makes me run. If you had the memory of a goldfish, maybe it would work. Link to comment
Skeptic Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Thank. Now how to?Disable Location Services for whichever app you use to take photos in the privacy section of the settings app. Link to comment
Snowmonkey Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Prolonged standing in one place can't be that good for you. It makes soldiers on parade grounds faint and hairdressers invariably end up with bad varicose veins. Walking, on the other hand seems to be universally acclaimed. I've recently acquired an 11 inch Macbook Air on which I run Windows 7 using Bootcamp. The Macbook is an excellent server and Windows allows you to run it with the lid closed, so combined with a Dragonfly, a decent set of headphones and a backpack, it makes for a great audio/hiking experience. Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Einstein Link to comment
elcorso Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Intermittent Movement May Counteract Risks from Prolonged Sitting Roch Link to comment
Bystander Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I have peripatetic tendencies when listening to music, sometimes fluidly shifting to 'dancing', but I don't think I could literally stand still in front of my speakers... although with certain types of music I sometimes sit cross-legged on the ground as if I was meditating. Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 and sitting on an inflatable ball or doing things which intentionally keep you off-balance is not really helpful. No, you're right. Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Otherwise, I never sit during listening. When on the phone, yes. But I don't like sweetspot listening to begin with and further more I'm always hopping around in the (adjacent to the listening room) kitchen for one thing or the other. No standing table as well. Of course I manage to take 2-3 hours to frie a couple of eggs, so that helps. But I am serious. Lots of talk (and cooking + drinking) going on in the kitchen and speakers are just in front of me a ~10-12 meters distance (over 6 meters apart). Besides this (but it has been said I think) nothing is better for move on the groove when standing. Or better : walking anyway. PS: Shouldn't someone report that post above ? Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
wgscott Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Disable Location Services for whichever app you use to take photos in the privacy section of the settings app. Thanks, did that immediately (the iOS 8 update tried to turn it on again), but I meant how do I delete the photo I posted. (Chris had to do it.) Link to comment
elcorso Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I have peripatetic tendencies when listening to music, sometimes fluidly shifting to 'dancing', but I don't think I could literally stand still in front of my speakers... although with certain types of music I sometimes sit cross-legged on the ground as if I was meditating. +1 I agree this is the best position seated, but you need some Yoga training to be "confortable". Can I suggest tis position to Peter St. when listening to DSD...? Roch Link to comment
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