PhVL Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Hi, Is it possible to convert DFF files to DSF? If possible; can someone tell me if there are programs that i can try before i buy. Thanks in advance Philippe Synology DS 1513 + Room 1: Mac Mini (Yosemite) --- Nagra HD Dac --- Nagra Jazz --- 2x Devialet 400 --- Sonus Faber Olympica III Office: Mac Mini --- Meridan 818 V2 --- Vincent SA 93 Plus --- 2x Vincent SP 995 --- Audio Physics Tempo 25 Plus Car Hifi: Burmester Sound System Link to comment
weedos123 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Here's one for a mac not tried it though Utilities | 2ManyRobots down the bottom of the page is the dff2dsf converter. Paul Link to comment
jvlata Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Korg AudioGate Just for music:Mac Mini 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5 60GB SSD, 16GB RAM (Mid 2011) OS X El Capitan 10.11.3 > WD NAS 6TB > Audirvana+>Roon Server > HQPlayer >iPad for Roon Remote> Teac UD-503 DAC > Audio Quest Cinnamon USB cable > Cambridge Audio Azur 840C > Cambridge Audio Azur 840A > Polk LSi 15 > DIY Speaker Cables. Link to comment
PhVL Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Here's one for a mac not tried it though Utilities | 2ManyRobots down the bottom of the page is the dff2dsf converter. Paul Thanks alot Paul. I give it a try. Philippe Synology DS 1513 + Room 1: Mac Mini (Yosemite) --- Nagra HD Dac --- Nagra Jazz --- 2x Devialet 400 --- Sonus Faber Olympica III Office: Mac Mini --- Meridan 818 V2 --- Vincent SA 93 Plus --- 2x Vincent SP 995 --- Audio Physics Tempo 25 Plus Car Hifi: Burmester Sound System Link to comment
PhVL Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Korg AudioGate Thanks for the reply. I have Korg AudioGate, i forgot it. Stupid me. Philippe Synology DS 1513 + Room 1: Mac Mini (Yosemite) --- Nagra HD Dac --- Nagra Jazz --- 2x Devialet 400 --- Sonus Faber Olympica III Office: Mac Mini --- Meridan 818 V2 --- Vincent SA 93 Plus --- 2x Vincent SP 995 --- Audio Physics Tempo 25 Plus Car Hifi: Burmester Sound System Link to comment
audiventory Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 How convert DFF to DSF (while under Windows) AuI ConverteR 48x44 - HD audio converter/optimizer for DAC of high resolution files ISO, DSF, DFF (1-bit/D64/128/256/512/1024), wav, flac, aiff, alac, safe CD ripper to PCM/DSF, Seamless Album Conversion, AIFF, WAV, FLAC, DSF metadata editor, Mac & WindowsOffline conversion save energy and nature Link to comment
ted_b Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 How convert DFF to DSF (while under Windows) Audiventory, From what I can tell in your log (as I try to convert a folder of DFF to DSF) you are simply using the age-old DFF2WAV.exe, which is a PCM converter!!! This is not optimal high end conversion (your words) and no better than the non-recommended-by-JRiver JRiver utility. Please advise! "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
audiventory Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Ted, Now AuI ConverteR 48x44 (v.3.8.8 and above) able connect dff2dsf utility as input decoder. DFF -> dff2dsf -> intermediate DSF -> AuI (with or without sample rate conversion) -> DSF/PCM If sample rate intermediate DSF is equal output sample rate then output DSF's audio data bit-to-bit as intermediate DSF's audio data. Using dsf2dff via AuI get graphical user interface and 1-bit sample rate conversion. How connect dff2dsf read here Conversion DFF to DSF. 3 ways for Mac OS X, Windows and Linux Best regards, Yuri AuI ConverteR 48x44 - HD audio converter/optimizer for DAC of high resolution files ISO, DSF, DFF (1-bit/D64/128/256/512/1024), wav, flac, aiff, alac, safe CD ripper to PCM/DSF, Seamless Album Conversion, AIFF, WAV, FLAC, DSF metadata editor, Mac & WindowsOffline conversion save energy and nature Link to comment
bogi Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Atatched you can find my new version v1.1.0. It allows to use 'Send to' menu to sequentially process list of selected DFF files, for example of one music album. For users of previous versions: simply copy new files over old ones and run the bat file again. No need to use 'Run as administrator' anymore. Please give me your feedback, any comments and suggestions are welcome. DFF2DSF_context_menu_Win7_Win8_v110.zip i7 11850H + RTX A2000 Win11 HQPlayer ► Topping HS02 ► 2x iFi iSilencer ► SMSL D300 ► DIY headamp DHA1 ► HiFiMan HE-500 Link to comment
paul3000h Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Thanks to all for this very welcome program now Korg is no longer available. I struggled to get the installation location exactly right so this is what I did, but I am not getting the Bold option on right click a dff file. I get the 'dff2dsf.bat' option under 'open with' and the 'DFF to DSF' option under 'send to', see attached pics. Both work but which is for single dff file conversion and which is for sequentially? Example: Create a folder anywhere called ' dff2dsf AddContextMenuItem ' from the unzipped dff2dsf archive copy this file... dff2dsf.exe into the new folder, from the unzipped other archive, ' 14704d1412103556-dff-dsf-conversion-dff2dsf_context_menu_win7_win8_v110 ' copy the 3 files in it to same folder ie ' dff2dsf AddContextMenuItem ' then run as administrator the AddContextMenuItem.bat file which is one of the 3 files. Remember the 'Do not move location of the.....' instructions. Final folder content after running the AddContextMenuItem.bat file looks like the attached pic. Link to comment
bogi Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 paul3000h, glad to know it works for you! You don't see the bold 'DFF to DSF' option because you have defined Foobar2000 as the default program to open DFF files. In the 'Open with' submenu you can select 'Choose default program...' and then you can choose dff2dsf.bat from the tool folder. Then 'DFF to DSF' has to show in bold instead of Foobar2000. Or you can let it as it is, as you wish. The 'bold' option is provided only for quick access to single file conversion, otherwise you can always use the 'Send to' option. You don't need to use 'Run as administrator' when launching AddContextMenuItem.bat or RemoveContextMenuItem.bat in this version v1.1.0. But it causes no issue if you do so. i7 11850H + RTX A2000 Win11 HQPlayer ► Topping HS02 ► 2x iFi iSilencer ► SMSL D300 ► DIY headamp DHA1 ► HiFiMan HE-500 Link to comment
paul3000h Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 paul3000h, glad to know it works for you! You don't see the bold 'DFF to DSF' option because you have defined Foobar2000 as the default program to open DFF files. In the 'Open with' submenu you can select 'Choose default program...' and then you can choose dff2dsf.bat from the tool folder. Then 'DFF to DSF' has to show in bold instead of Foobar2000. Or you can let it as it is, as you wish. The 'bold' option is provided only for quick access to single file conversion, otherwise you can always use the 'Send to' option. You don't need to use 'Run as administrator' when launching AddContextMenuItem.bat or RemoveContextMenuItem.bat in this version v1.1.0. But it causes no issue if you do so. Thanks, understood. I get the 'dff2dsf.bat' option under 'open with' and the 'DFF to DSF' option under 'send to', see attached (a bove) pics. Both work but which is for single dff file conversion and which is for sequentially many files? Your idea of "renaming the current menu item to 'DFF to DSF - this file' and adding yet one item 'DFF to DSF - this directory'." would be good, for certainty say 'this file only' Link to comment
bogi Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 The 'Open with' option is the 'bold' option, but Windows always displays the default program for an file extension (Foobar2000 for DFF in your case) as bold. So it is intended for single file conversion. The 'Send to' option is intended for multiple file conversion. You can use it also for single file conversion. Find more information in the PDF document. Your picture with folder content shows previous version files before v1.1.0 installation. You can delete the readme file of the previous version, as it is now obsolete. Use the PDF document now. i7 11850H + RTX A2000 Win11 HQPlayer ► Topping HS02 ► 2x iFi iSilencer ► SMSL D300 ► DIY headamp DHA1 ► HiFiMan HE-500 Link to comment
paul3000h Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Thanks again to all involved. We now no longer need the Korg Audiogate for dff to dsf conversion your way is just as easy now! Could those affected check if the dsf files created this way are now exact copies from the iso and so free of the click/tick noise problem? Link to comment
ted_b Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Bogi, your update works perfectly here. Thanks so much! I will include it in my next SACD Ripping Guide update. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
bogi Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Ted, your guide is very helpful, I'm glad you decided to add my tool to it. i7 11850H + RTX A2000 Win11 HQPlayer ► Topping HS02 ► 2x iFi iSilencer ► SMSL D300 ► DIY headamp DHA1 ► HiFiMan HE-500 Link to comment
sjg Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Hi, I am so happy to learn about the dff vs. dsf and the click issue with dsf before I embark on ripping a big stack of sacds. I installed bogi's batch file and ran it successfully once and then keep getting issues that dff2dsf stops working. I am running Win 8.1 Professional. I tried to repair the program via the windows dialog -- but no help. I think the batch file is working -- I get the context menu choices and it starts dff2dsf but then get this message. Any help will be much appreciated. Here is the error message in the event log: Level Date and Time Source Event ID Task Category Error 10/9/2014 10:45:49 AM Application Error 1000 (100) "Faulting application name: dff2dsf.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x541e955f Faulting module name: dff2dsf.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x541e955f Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x00004ef1 Faulting process id: 0xa44 Faulting application start time: 0x01cfe3cfb7790891 Faulting application path: C:\DFF-DSF\dff2dsf.exe Faulting module path: C:\DFF-DSF\dff2dsf.exe Report Id: f527f748-4fc2-11e4-82b3-f8b156b659aa Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID: " many thanks, Stephanie Link to comment
bogi Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Hi Stephanie, I got such eror dialog only in the case when the input DFF contained compressed DST data and not uncompressed DSD data. I mean your issue is related to Miska's dff2dsf. If it would exit with an well defined exit status, I could process it and display a dialog box in this case. Compressed DST data are contained in SACDs, which contain both multichannel and stereo tracks. There are some audio players which can show if a DFF file contains DSD or DST data, for example Foobar2000 in playlist Codes column, or in track properties. i7 11850H + RTX A2000 Win11 HQPlayer ► Topping HS02 ► 2x iFi iSilencer ► SMSL D300 ► DIY headamp DHA1 ► HiFiMan HE-500 Link to comment
sjg Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I read about that but I did not expect 9 out of 10 of the SACD's I've ripped to be DST. Wow. Thanks for the tip about the Foobar Playlist Codec column. so handy. I will reread the back threads about this and hope there is a good tagging solution for SACD rips with DST data in them. Thank You! Link to comment
sjg Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Seems like I glossed over Ted's advice in the SACD Ripper Primer. Checking the DST to DSD Option in ISO2DSD produces dff files that can be converter to dsf via Miska's dff2dsf. Has anyone found or heard a difference using or not using the DST to DSD converter option in ISO2DSD for stereo? for Multi channel? Thanks again, Stephanie Link to comment
Miska Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Has anyone found or heard a difference using or not using the DST to DSD converter option in ISO2DSD for stereo? for Multi channel? DST is lossless compression, so decompression results in original DSD stream. I believe I already have a fix for that crash when input is DST. I'll see if I can also include speed improvement for the conversion before releasing update... Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
sjg Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Hi, I have another question for Miska. Does DFF2DSF.exe work with multichannel DFF files? I ran the program from the command prompt to show that I can get it to work with a stereo file but not multichannel files. many thanks for any help here. Stephanie Link to comment
bogi Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Jussi, the previous DFF2DSF version processed multichannel DFF files correctly: h:\tools\ISO2DSD>dff2dsf.exe "Unknown Album\01 - Sarah Brightman - La Luna.dff" "Unknown Album\01 - Sarah Brightman - La Luna.dsf" DFF2DSF v1.1.0 Copyright © 2014 Jussi Laako / Signalyst. All rights reserved. h:\tools\ISO2DSD>..\dff2dsf.exe "Unknown Album\01 - Sarah Brightman - La Luna.dff" "Unknown Album\01 - Sarah Brightman - La Luna.dsf" DFF2DSF v1.2.0 Copyright © 2014 Jussi Laako / Signalyst. All rights reserved. exception: clDSDIFF::ReadRaw(): read size must be multiple of channels h:\tools\ISO2DSD> i7 11850H + RTX A2000 Win11 HQPlayer ► Topping HS02 ► 2x iFi iSilencer ► SMSL D300 ► DIY headamp DHA1 ► HiFiMan HE-500 Link to comment
Miska Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Jussi, the previous DFF2DSF version processed multichannel DFF files correctly: OK, this is some completely unexpected side-effect of the changes. I'll look into it and make a new release... Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Miska Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 OK, this is some completely unexpected side-effect of the changes. I'll look into it and make a new release... Now this problem has been fixed with version 1.2.1... Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
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