EdwinAnderson Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Let’s get something straight. I am a “newbe” with minimal knowledge and critical listening experience. I am an eager student learning to listen critically while enjoying timeless, ageless music across genres! Wow! I am running from a Surface Pro 2 tablet to the Ciunas DAC to Focal CMS40’s. Auditioning the Elijah Audio Quad Braid Mk.4 and Isolate Cu (Single Sleeve) has been an awesome privilege. Listening to the Elijah’s versus three supposedly comparable options was more than educational. Intentionally I ignored selling price, advertising, and minimally considered the comments of others. Both Elijah cables surfaced as the “crème de la crème” for my set up and listening. While I loved the quality of the Quad 4, the Isolate Cu, seems the wiser choice. The Ciunas requires only the data line. Repeatedly listening to the same tracks across multiple genres on both Elijah cables, revealed subtle differences. to my ears. I have landed on the Isolate Cu. Even though the Isolate Cu was not as “burned in” as the Quad 4, it performed better for my ears. Both cables consisently demonstrated smooth, rich, relaxed sound. A win-win. The Isolate Cu provided a slightly warmer, cleaner, more natural sound to my ear. Plus, that red wool won me over! I know there are cables that cost more and cost less. I know there are marketing claims on either end of the spectrum. For me, the Isolate Cu is a solid investment for a lifetime of listening. Thank you Elijah Audio! Link to comment
NOMBEDES Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Cables are Satan's rabbit hole. Buy what you wish, enjoy, and never, never, express an opinion on any other person's cables. In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake ~ Sayre's Law Link to comment
gmgraves Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Cables are Satan's rabbit hole. Buy what you wish, enjoy, and never, never, express an opinion on any other person's cables. I enthusiastically second that recommendation! Nobody, physicist, engineer or layman can tell for sure (or for that matter, agree) whether audio cables and/or interconnects make a sonic difference or not. Many people maintain that they can hear differences in cables, but those differences are not universal and there is no consensus. So-called double-blind tests generally indicate that the differences heard between cables don't really exist, but then, it is becoming apparent to many that double-blind testing, while being the holy grail of test procedures in the realm of science to test things like the efficacy and side effects of new pharmaceuticals, it might not work so well for brain/sensory organ interactions such as human hearing. Certainly, nobody seems to have found any measurements of cables that can point to these differences or why they would or should occur. So, my advice is to tread carefully in this arena. Ultimately, I'd say that if you really believe that a certain cable (or cables) increase your enjoyment of your stereo system, then they probably do and you should do whatever you think makes your system sound better. I hasten to add that I do not believe that cables have any but a placebo effect, and that whether they cost $5 or $5000, they sound the same, but I also know that I'm in the minority here, so I'm not going to tell you that chasing cables and interconnects is an empty procedure and largely bunk, but I am going to say that it's bunk to me! Have fun. George Link to comment
wwaldmanfan Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 This subject has been beaten to death on this forum, with no consensus reached. But, as long as some frequent posters insist that there is no difference in the performance of cables, I will stand with the other side and say that there is. The difficulty lies in finding the right synergy within your system, since all components and circuitry play a part. The bottom line is, whether real or imagined, if you think a particular cable sounds more to your liking, and personal perception is an essential part what this hobby is all about, thenthat belief should be embraced. Music itself, and the effect that it has on us, is magical, so why the need to dissect it down to science, facts, and figures, as some are compelled to do? I have posted my own experiences in other threads. My DAC does not require 5v USB power. I compared the Elijah Isolate Cu cable against a Kimber Kable costing one-third the price, and to my ear, the Kimber sounded much fuller with more detail and better imaging. I cannot explain this phenomenon, nor do I begrudge Michael at Elijah a good and prosperous living. I am just relating my own experience, for what it is worth, and am pleased that the OP has had a sucessful, if opposite, impression of it from my own. If you are going to start a thread simply to extoll the virtues of a particular product, then other opinions should be heard. Link to comment
gmgraves Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 This subject has been beaten to death on this forum, with no consensus reached. But, as long as some frequent posters insist that there is no difference in the performance of cables, I will stand with the other side and say that there is. The difficulty lies in finding the right synergy within your system, since all components and circuitry play a part. The bottom line is, whether real or imagined, if you think a particular cable sounds more to your liking, and personal perception is an essential part what this hobby is all about, thenthat belief should be embraced. Music itself, and the effect that it has on us, is magical, so why the need to dissect it down to science, facts, and figures, as some are compelled to do? I have posted my own experiences in other threads. My DAC does not require 5v USB power. I compared the Elijah Isolate Cu cable against a Kimber Kable costing one-third the price, and to my ear, the Kimber sounded much fuller with more detail and better imaging. I cannot explain this phenomenon, nor do I begrudge Michael at Elijah a good and prosperous living. I am just relating my own experience, for what it is worth, and am pleased that the OP has had a sucessful, if opposite, impression of it from my own. If you are going to start a thread simply to extoll the virtues of a particular product, then other opinions should be heard. Nobody is starting another thread about cable sound (AFAICS). Simply put, the OP is a newbie. I wanted to him to see both sides of the picture. I was careful to say that if he thinks a cable makes his system sound better, then that's all that's important. But I also wanted him to understand that the other side is just as honest in their belief as are the cable true believers. I also wanted to point out my particular biases so there would be no misinterpretation on his part of my intent. It's called full disclosure. I merely advised him to be careful in his search for cables that suit him, I did not council him to not bother. George Link to comment
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