fredhammersmith2 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 On one end of my musical computer system... a good computer rig / Dell server, plenty of power, Windows 7, JRiver Media Center 19 On another end... a Metric Halo ULN-2,with FireWire inputs (Mac only) and SPDif inputs (then Neumann KH120 monitors) The transport, from the Dell computer to the ULN-2 DAC, can be of many. Here are the possibilities I am considering, for a budget of maximum 300$ Buy the brand new DI-2014 from Audio GD from China, to convert from USB to SPDIf, (but then I am blowing my budget) with a 30 feet USB cable from Redco (not sure which want to get). Previous experience with AudioGD: great sound, poor drivers. Buy a m2Tech hiface from a local vendor, with a 30-feet SPDif cable from Redco. 200$ for the m2tech, probably about 50$ for the SPDif cable Buy an inexpensive digital-out only PCI card (Musiland Digital Times), 50$, with a 30-feet SPDif cable from Redco. Buy a more expensive soundcard, like an Asus Azur (200$?), and use the digital-out with a 30-feet SPDif cable. These little decisions are important, of course: we all have heard the resuts of poor digital transport and its impact on sound. And of all these solutions, I bet the AudioGD is the only one whose making any re-clocking... So what do you think? The m2Tech seems like a sure bet (loads of praise), but am I gaining anything compared to the cheaper Musiland card? Or is there other soundcard (like the Asus) with bit-perfect output? And for 30 feet cable transport, is there a preference between USB and SPDif? Link to comment
wgscott Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Dont cheap out on the interface. Better yet, buy a mac mini and use the native firewire connection, and use the current computer as a remote interface. You could even run windows on the mini if you absolutely had to. Link to comment
tranz Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 You could probably get a second hand Lynx PCI/PCIe soundcard cheap. RME is also very good. And some use a Julia card here too. Even cheaper is an Emu 0404 card. Or if you want to go USB, the IFI range is very good and good value. I would not go beyond 5m for a USB cable. Since you already have a pc, save your money and don't bother with a Mac. Link to comment
fredhammersmith2 Posted August 9, 2014 Author Share Posted August 9, 2014 You could probably get a second hand Lynx PCI/PCIe soundcard cheap. RME is also very good. And some use a Julia card here too. Even cheaper is an Emu 0404 card. Or if you want to go USB, the IFI range is very good and good value. I would not go beyond 5m for a USB cable. Since you already have a pc, save your money and don't bother with a Mac. What about the Lynx ONE Professional ? Good value? Link to comment
Kelly Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 I don't know anythign about the Audio-GD, but it looks like it does all the right things. Of the devices I have heard and am familiar with: 1.) ifi iLink - $250 (coax output) 2.) iFi iLink + iUSB Power - $450 3.) iFi iUSB Power + Yellowtec Puc2 Lite - $650 (AES output only, but can serve as a two way device if that matters to you) 4.) Bryston Buc-1 - $750 (Toslink, BNC, caox, AES) 5.) Audiophilleo 2 + Pure Power - $1000 The Bryston is probably what I would go for if I were getting one now. It comes with its own nice beefy power supply and in a nice chasis. Roon ->UltraRendu + CI Audio 7v LPS-> Kii Control -> Kii Three Roon->BMC UltraDAC->Mr Speakers Aeon Flow Open Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Do you need the Mac and Windows simultaneously? Can you hold on a while? I think I read Metric Halo are developing Windows drivers. Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
bogi Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 For the price < $300 I would suggest Gustard U10. It is clearly better than hiFace Two, I could compare them. i7 11850H + RTX A2000 Win11 HQPlayer ► Topping HS02 ► 2x iFi iSilencer ► SMSL D300 ► DIY headamp DHA1 ► HiFiMan HE-500 Link to comment
fredhammersmith2 Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 Do you need the Mac and Windows simultaneously? Can you hold on a while? I think I read Metric Halo are developing Windows drivers. Is it a recent rumour? Because last time I checked (a good while ago) they seemed to have close that door definitively! Link to comment
fredhammersmith2 Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 I don't know anythign about the Audio-GD, but it looks like it does all the right things. Of the devices I have heard and am familiar with:1.) ifi iLink - $250 (coax output) 2.) iFi iLink + iUSB Power - $450 3.) iFi iUSB Power + Yellowtec Puc2 Lite - $650 (AES output only, but can serve as a two way device if that matters to you) 4.) Bryston Buc-1 - $750 (Toslink, BNC, caox, AES) 5.) Audiophilleo 2 + Pure Power - $1000 The Bryston is probably what I would go for if I were getting one now. It comes with its own nice beefy power supply and in a nice chasis. My undertanding is that jitter is the true enemy. ifi Link pretend to be doing much better than the Asus Xonar in that respect. Very tempting. Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Is [Windows drivers] a recent rumour? Because last time I checked (a good while ago) they seemed to have close that door definitively! Reference the 15th post in this thread -- Metric Halo announces new technologies and upgrade path - Gearslutz.com Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
fredhammersmith2 Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 Reference the 15th post in this thread -- Metric Halo announces new technologies and upgrade path - Gearslutz.com Wow, fantastric news! You made my Sunday! Link to comment
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