mkrzych Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Hello, Anyone tried this in the DAC inside and got any improvements? ERS I may fulling myself, but while listening over the cans connected directly to my DAC I put my hand at the top of the DAC's chassis and I think, the bottom end of the bass and overall coherence of the sonics improved little bit - subtle, but I thought it was noticeable. Now, what may caused this phenomena? Probably not vibrations, because the top lid of the chassis is rather thick and when I put some stone on top of it, wasn't changed anything as putting my hand on top. Any thoughts about it? BTW, do you happen to know where I can buy this ERS paper in Europe for sending to Poland? -- Krzysztof Maj http://mkrzych.wordpress.com/ "Music is the highest form of art. It is also the most noble. It is human emotion, captured, crystallised, encased… and then passed on to others." - By Ken Ishiwata Link to comment
AlainGr Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 This reminds me of a suggestion from someone, to remove the metal top of my dac, saying that it would yeld a nice sonic upgrade... The exact contrary... I forgot to ask how it would improve something, but I haven't communicated with this gentleman for a long time... Alain Link to comment
Panelhead Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 There was a site, http://www.less-emf.com, or close that sold lots or RFI and EMF shielding products. These are for lab or medical applications. Not still points, but same type of product. Try there, these are real and cheap. Whether they do any good is open to debate. 2012 Mac Mini, i5 - 2.5 GHz, 16 GB RAM. SSD, PM/PV software, Focusrite Clarett 4Pre 4 channel interface. Daysequerra M4.0X Broadcast monitor., My_Ref Evolution rev a , Klipsch La Scala II, Blue Sky Sub 12 Clarett used as ADC for vinyl rips. Corning Optical Thunderbolt cable used to connect computer to 4Pre. Dac fed by iFi iPower and Noise Trapper isolation transformer. Link to comment
mkrzych Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 There was a site, http://www.less-emf.com, or close that sold lots or RFI and EMF shielding products. These are for lab or medical applications. Not still points, but same type of product. Try there, these are real and cheap. Whether they do any good is open to debate. This site does not work unfortunately. -- Krzysztof Maj http://mkrzych.wordpress.com/ "Music is the highest form of art. It is also the most noble. It is human emotion, captured, crystallised, encased… and then passed on to others." - By Ken Ishiwata Link to comment
Panelhead Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 EMF Safety Superstore - Electromagnetic Field Detection and Protection, no dash. 2012 Mac Mini, i5 - 2.5 GHz, 16 GB RAM. SSD, PM/PV software, Focusrite Clarett 4Pre 4 channel interface. Daysequerra M4.0X Broadcast monitor., My_Ref Evolution rev a , Klipsch La Scala II, Blue Sky Sub 12 Clarett used as ADC for vinyl rips. Corning Optical Thunderbolt cable used to connect computer to 4Pre. Dac fed by iFi iPower and Noise Trapper isolation transformer. Link to comment
mkrzych Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Thanks for posting this Panelhead. Here is the video about using ERS, but not so detail how the measurement was done and what actually. EMI Improvement using ERS + Audio Sensibility I have also read this article, interesting: Special Feature The Entry Level Project How to put together an awesome $5000 sound system! Review By By Rick Becker Any thought about it? The point is to lower the noise floor somehow in already built product if possible. -- Krzysztof Maj http://mkrzych.wordpress.com/ "Music is the highest form of art. It is also the most noble. It is human emotion, captured, crystallised, encased… and then passed on to others." - By Ken Ishiwata Link to comment
ggking7 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Glad to see no deriding comments in this thread so far. This stuff is real. I've had good luck with conductive foam. Link to comment
mkrzych Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Glad to see no deriding comments in this thread so far. This stuff is real. I've had good luck with conductive foam. How and when did you apply it? -- Krzysztof Maj http://mkrzych.wordpress.com/ "Music is the highest form of art. It is also the most noble. It is human emotion, captured, crystallised, encased… and then passed on to others." - By Ken Ishiwata Link to comment
Allan F Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 There was a previous thread which might be of some value: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f10-music-servers/anyone-tried-ers-cloth-computer-audiophile-pocket-server-17735/ I installed a large piece on the inside top of the case, a smaller piece over the CPU, and a piece on the outside bottom. I was careful not to cover any of the cooling openings. It was a long time ago and I can't recall the specific nature of its effects. I used 1/4 inch kapton tape to keep it in place. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
mkrzych Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 There was a previous thread which might be of some value: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f10-music-servers/anyone-tried-ers-cloth-computer-audiophile-pocket-server-17735/ Yes, saw it, but quite old and without much clue imho. -- Krzysztof Maj http://mkrzych.wordpress.com/ "Music is the highest form of art. It is also the most noble. It is human emotion, captured, crystallised, encased… and then passed on to others." - By Ken Ishiwata Link to comment
sandyk Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Allan Perhaps it may be best in this instance to spend a little more initially on a steel ,or steel + aluminium front and rear panels case ? A metal case can also aid with heat dissipation. Regards Alex How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
Allan F Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Allan Perhaps it may be best in this instance to spend a little more initially on a steel ,or steel + aluminium front and rear panels case ? A metal case can also aid with heat dissipation. Regards Alex Thanks for the suggestion, Alex. However, while I initially thought that the case of my CAPS v3 Carbon was made of plastic, I found after removing the cover that it is actually made of steel or some metal alloy. Since installing the ERS cloth many months ago, I have made a number of other changes to my system. I never did go back and remove the ERS cloth to see how the system sounds without it. Now that I am very familiar with the sound of my system as presently configured, it probably would be a good idea to do that. Heat is not an issue as the CAPS runs quite cool to the touch. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
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