Miska Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Nope. Different animal. So it allows you to do only stuff within their family of hardware with their family of software in a pre-defined way they have decided? I call that bondage. I want hardware and software separated, because it is practically impossible to find combination of hardware and software in single package that would exactly suit my needs. Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
wappinghigh Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 ^ Oh yeh Miska.. wait. I forgot you hate UPnP hahaha New simplified setup: STEREO- Primary listening Area: Cullen Circuits Mod ZP90> Benchmark DAC1>RotelRKB250 Power amp>KEF Q Series. Secondary listening areas: 1/ QNAP 119P II(running MinimServer)>UPnP>Linn Majik DSI>Linn Majik 140's. 2/ (Source awaiting)>Invicta DAC>RotelRKB2100 Power amp>Rega's. Tertiary multiroom areas: Same QNAP>SMB>Sonos>Various. MULTICHANNEL- MacMini>A+(Standalone mode)>Exasound e28 >5.1 analog out>Yamaha Avantage Receiver>Pre-outs>Linn Chakra power amps>Linn Katan front and sides. Linn Trikan Centre. Velodyne SPL1000 Ultra Link to comment
realhifi Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Cool. Cool couple as well.. OK so you are familar with Sonos. Awesome. Then you understand my frustration why there isn't a HiRez/DSD UPnP multiroom playing Solution just like Sonos: which handles both hirez streaming from a NAS and Music streaming services in exactly the same way Looks like It is on it's way via Bluesound. Bluesound - HiFi for a wireless generation Looks like what you are hoping for. David Link to comment
wappinghigh Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 So it allows you to do only stuff within their family of hardware with their family of software in a pre-defined way they have decided? I call that bondage. I want hardware and software separated, because it is practically impossible to find combination of hardware and software in single package that would exactly suit my needs. But then in this statement you say you actually *like* UPnP New simplified setup: STEREO- Primary listening Area: Cullen Circuits Mod ZP90> Benchmark DAC1>RotelRKB250 Power amp>KEF Q Series. Secondary listening areas: 1/ QNAP 119P II(running MinimServer)>UPnP>Linn Majik DSI>Linn Majik 140's. 2/ (Source awaiting)>Invicta DAC>RotelRKB2100 Power amp>Rega's. Tertiary multiroom areas: Same QNAP>SMB>Sonos>Various. MULTICHANNEL- MacMini>A+(Standalone mode)>Exasound e28 >5.1 analog out>Yamaha Avantage Receiver>Pre-outs>Linn Chakra power amps>Linn Katan front and sides. Linn Trikan Centre. Velodyne SPL1000 Ultra Link to comment
wappinghigh Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 Looks like It is on it's way via Bluesound. Bluesound - HiFi for a wireless generationLooks like what you are hoping for. I've know about this product for over 12 months.. can't actually buy it unless it's available online...doesn't do DSD..No Pandora, Rhapsody or Spotify New simplified setup: STEREO- Primary listening Area: Cullen Circuits Mod ZP90> Benchmark DAC1>RotelRKB250 Power amp>KEF Q Series. Secondary listening areas: 1/ QNAP 119P II(running MinimServer)>UPnP>Linn Majik DSI>Linn Majik 140's. 2/ (Source awaiting)>Invicta DAC>RotelRKB2100 Power amp>Rega's. Tertiary multiroom areas: Same QNAP>SMB>Sonos>Various. MULTICHANNEL- MacMini>A+(Standalone mode)>Exasound e28 >5.1 analog out>Yamaha Avantage Receiver>Pre-outs>Linn Chakra power amps>Linn Katan front and sides. Linn Trikan Centre. Velodyne SPL1000 Ultra Link to comment
realhifi Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 So it allows you to do only stuff within their family of hardware with their family of software in a pre-defined way they have decided? I call that bondage. I want hardware and software separated, because it is practically impossible to find combination of hardware and software in single package that would exactly suit my needs. Hopefully someone will make that for you soon. David Link to comment
realhifi Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 I've know about this product for over 12 months.. doesn't do DSD..No Pandora, Rhapsody or Spotify Yep. Possibly Marantz will have something coming along soon that could address all this'd concerns. Only problem is the interface may not be quite up to SONOS standards. But you never know, it could be. Denon is also working on products to address the items you mentioned. David Link to comment
Miska Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 ^ Why don't you write and alternative Sonos like solution Miska? I've been using MinimServer + BubbleUPnP + HQPlayer Embedded. But I have to say I still find Minim + Bubble combination clunky, while being least clunky of what I've found. PlugPlayer is generally worse in terms of UX and IoP. And I'm probably too stupid for Linn Kinsky because although I managed to get it working I have still not figured how it is really supposed to be used. And my library doesn't "look pretty" because I don't have any cover art in 90+% of my content and there's no way to do non-destructive metadata-editing either (metadata on downloads and GraceNote is #!&, even the three recent Led Zeppelin HD albums are not consistent). So I still prefer my own way and I don't feel like missing anything... Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
wappinghigh Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 Yep. Possibly Marantz will have something coming along soon that could address all this'd concerns. Only problem is the interface may not be quite up to SONOS standards. But you never know, it could be. Denon is also working on products to address the items you mentioned. Great.... Links please ! New simplified setup: STEREO- Primary listening Area: Cullen Circuits Mod ZP90> Benchmark DAC1>RotelRKB250 Power amp>KEF Q Series. Secondary listening areas: 1/ QNAP 119P II(running MinimServer)>UPnP>Linn Majik DSI>Linn Majik 140's. 2/ (Source awaiting)>Invicta DAC>RotelRKB2100 Power amp>Rega's. Tertiary multiroom areas: Same QNAP>SMB>Sonos>Various. MULTICHANNEL- MacMini>A+(Standalone mode)>Exasound e28 >5.1 analog out>Yamaha Avantage Receiver>Pre-outs>Linn Chakra power amps>Linn Katan front and sides. Linn Trikan Centre. Velodyne SPL1000 Ultra Link to comment
realhifi Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Great.... Links please ! http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f22-networking-networked-audio-and-streaming/denon-heos-wireless-network-speakers-20671/ David Link to comment
Miska Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 ^ Oh yeh Miska.. wait. I forgot you hate UPnP hahaha Yeah, I spent quite a bit of time to implement support for it, just to become even more convinced that I don't like it. Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
wappinghigh Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 Yeah, I spent quite a bit of time to implement support for it, just to become even more convinced that I don't like it. Wait a minute! Are you saying you've now implemented a UPnP share within HQPlayer? New simplified setup: STEREO- Primary listening Area: Cullen Circuits Mod ZP90> Benchmark DAC1>RotelRKB250 Power amp>KEF Q Series. Secondary listening areas: 1/ QNAP 119P II(running MinimServer)>UPnP>Linn Majik DSI>Linn Majik 140's. 2/ (Source awaiting)>Invicta DAC>RotelRKB2100 Power amp>Rega's. Tertiary multiroom areas: Same QNAP>SMB>Sonos>Various. MULTICHANNEL- MacMini>A+(Standalone mode)>Exasound e28 >5.1 analog out>Yamaha Avantage Receiver>Pre-outs>Linn Chakra power amps>Linn Katan front and sides. Linn Trikan Centre. Velodyne SPL1000 Ultra Link to comment
Miska Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Wait a minute! Are you saying you've now implemented a UPnP share within HQPlayer? New 3.x Embedded version can configured to work as UPnP Renderer... Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
wappinghigh Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 ^ hahaha holy heck man! why didn't you tell me that before! hahaha Oh OK.. wait.. it's just in the embedded player.. Well what can I "Embedd" it into? A Pi or cubox? what would you recommend? New simplified setup: STEREO- Primary listening Area: Cullen Circuits Mod ZP90> Benchmark DAC1>RotelRKB250 Power amp>KEF Q Series. Secondary listening areas: 1/ QNAP 119P II(running MinimServer)>UPnP>Linn Majik DSI>Linn Majik 140's. 2/ (Source awaiting)>Invicta DAC>RotelRKB2100 Power amp>Rega's. Tertiary multiroom areas: Same QNAP>SMB>Sonos>Various. MULTICHANNEL- MacMini>A+(Standalone mode)>Exasound e28 >5.1 analog out>Yamaha Avantage Receiver>Pre-outs>Linn Chakra power amps>Linn Katan front and sides. Linn Trikan Centre. Velodyne SPL1000 Ultra Link to comment
wappinghigh Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f22-networking-networked-audio-and-streaming/denon-heos-wireless-network-speakers-20671/ Where does it say anywhere that this will do HIREZ? New simplified setup: STEREO- Primary listening Area: Cullen Circuits Mod ZP90> Benchmark DAC1>RotelRKB250 Power amp>KEF Q Series. Secondary listening areas: 1/ QNAP 119P II(running MinimServer)>UPnP>Linn Majik DSI>Linn Majik 140's. 2/ (Source awaiting)>Invicta DAC>RotelRKB2100 Power amp>Rega's. Tertiary multiroom areas: Same QNAP>SMB>Sonos>Various. MULTICHANNEL- MacMini>A+(Standalone mode)>Exasound e28 >5.1 analog out>Yamaha Avantage Receiver>Pre-outs>Linn Chakra power amps>Linn Katan front and sides. Linn Trikan Centre. Velodyne SPL1000 Ultra Link to comment
wappinghigh Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 This thread is about the easy set up and multiroom streaming of DSD and HiREZ.... New simplified setup: STEREO- Primary listening Area: Cullen Circuits Mod ZP90> Benchmark DAC1>RotelRKB250 Power amp>KEF Q Series. Secondary listening areas: 1/ QNAP 119P II(running MinimServer)>UPnP>Linn Majik DSI>Linn Majik 140's. 2/ (Source awaiting)>Invicta DAC>RotelRKB2100 Power amp>Rega's. Tertiary multiroom areas: Same QNAP>SMB>Sonos>Various. MULTICHANNEL- MacMini>A+(Standalone mode)>Exasound e28 >5.1 analog out>Yamaha Avantage Receiver>Pre-outs>Linn Chakra power amps>Linn Katan front and sides. Linn Trikan Centre. Velodyne SPL1000 Ultra Link to comment
realhifi Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 This thread is about the easy set up and multiroom streaming of DSD and HiREZ.... My mistake. Sorry about intrusion. David Link to comment
wappinghigh Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 Hey no problem.. I still think the Olive ONE might do all this.. but it would only be 4 zones max: and I'm still not sure if it will do DoP DSD... or multicasting... Have you got one of those in your store to try this for me: If it works I'd buy 4 off you New simplified setup: STEREO- Primary listening Area: Cullen Circuits Mod ZP90> Benchmark DAC1>RotelRKB250 Power amp>KEF Q Series. Secondary listening areas: 1/ QNAP 119P II(running MinimServer)>UPnP>Linn Majik DSI>Linn Majik 140's. 2/ (Source awaiting)>Invicta DAC>RotelRKB2100 Power amp>Rega's. Tertiary multiroom areas: Same QNAP>SMB>Sonos>Various. MULTICHANNEL- MacMini>A+(Standalone mode)>Exasound e28 >5.1 analog out>Yamaha Avantage Receiver>Pre-outs>Linn Chakra power amps>Linn Katan front and sides. Linn Trikan Centre. Velodyne SPL1000 Ultra Link to comment
wappinghigh Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 Of course the real q/ is why the fark Sonos just doesn't add at least 24/192... But like I've been asking that on their forum for over 5 years now (so long now I can't precisely remember hahaha) And all they do is continue to laugh at me and put me down........ New simplified setup: STEREO- Primary listening Area: Cullen Circuits Mod ZP90> Benchmark DAC1>RotelRKB250 Power amp>KEF Q Series. Secondary listening areas: 1/ QNAP 119P II(running MinimServer)>UPnP>Linn Majik DSI>Linn Majik 140's. 2/ (Source awaiting)>Invicta DAC>RotelRKB2100 Power amp>Rega's. Tertiary multiroom areas: Same QNAP>SMB>Sonos>Various. MULTICHANNEL- MacMini>A+(Standalone mode)>Exasound e28 >5.1 analog out>Yamaha Avantage Receiver>Pre-outs>Linn Chakra power amps>Linn Katan front and sides. Linn Trikan Centre. Velodyne SPL1000 Ultra Link to comment
wappinghigh Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 ....yet is remains the no ONE upgrade request feature asked for on the forum: with the longest running no of posts and visits... ....Go Farking figure... New simplified setup: STEREO- Primary listening Area: Cullen Circuits Mod ZP90> Benchmark DAC1>RotelRKB250 Power amp>KEF Q Series. Secondary listening areas: 1/ QNAP 119P II(running MinimServer)>UPnP>Linn Majik DSI>Linn Majik 140's. 2/ (Source awaiting)>Invicta DAC>RotelRKB2100 Power amp>Rega's. Tertiary multiroom areas: Same QNAP>SMB>Sonos>Various. MULTICHANNEL- MacMini>A+(Standalone mode)>Exasound e28 >5.1 analog out>Yamaha Avantage Receiver>Pre-outs>Linn Chakra power amps>Linn Katan front and sides. Linn Trikan Centre. Velodyne SPL1000 Ultra Link to comment
wappinghigh Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 Wait.. they archived me in Feb this year!!! LOL!!!! hahahahhahaha Well at least I tried... Here it is for the record.. It was started in Oct 2007 Zp 24/96 - Sonos Forums There I've re-opened it hahaha New simplified setup: STEREO- Primary listening Area: Cullen Circuits Mod ZP90> Benchmark DAC1>RotelRKB250 Power amp>KEF Q Series. Secondary listening areas: 1/ QNAP 119P II(running MinimServer)>UPnP>Linn Majik DSI>Linn Majik 140's. 2/ (Source awaiting)>Invicta DAC>RotelRKB2100 Power amp>Rega's. Tertiary multiroom areas: Same QNAP>SMB>Sonos>Various. MULTICHANNEL- MacMini>A+(Standalone mode)>Exasound e28 >5.1 analog out>Yamaha Avantage Receiver>Pre-outs>Linn Chakra power amps>Linn Katan front and sides. Linn Trikan Centre. Velodyne SPL1000 Ultra Link to comment
realhifi Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Wait.. they archived me in Feb this year!!! LOL!!!! hahahahhahaha Well at least I tried... Here it is for the record.. It was started in Oct 2007 Zp 24/96 - Sonos Forums When iTunes goes 24/96 Sonos will too. David Link to comment
wappinghigh Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 Again. That is irrelevant Who cares what itunes does... New simplified setup: STEREO- Primary listening Area: Cullen Circuits Mod ZP90> Benchmark DAC1>RotelRKB250 Power amp>KEF Q Series. Secondary listening areas: 1/ QNAP 119P II(running MinimServer)>UPnP>Linn Majik DSI>Linn Majik 140's. 2/ (Source awaiting)>Invicta DAC>RotelRKB2100 Power amp>Rega's. Tertiary multiroom areas: Same QNAP>SMB>Sonos>Various. MULTICHANNEL- MacMini>A+(Standalone mode)>Exasound e28 >5.1 analog out>Yamaha Avantage Receiver>Pre-outs>Linn Chakra power amps>Linn Katan front and sides. Linn Trikan Centre. Velodyne SPL1000 Ultra Link to comment
wappinghigh Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 The audio industry has NEVER understood this issue.. They always want to put their bias on things and shove down peoples throats that "well why would you bother" "when nobody can hear the difference".. That has never been the point.. The point is the files exist, therefore people want to play them.. That stupid arrogant stance (amongst others) is entirely why itunes lost it's position as the no one music library.. New simplified setup: STEREO- Primary listening Area: Cullen Circuits Mod ZP90> Benchmark DAC1>RotelRKB250 Power amp>KEF Q Series. Secondary listening areas: 1/ QNAP 119P II(running MinimServer)>UPnP>Linn Majik DSI>Linn Majik 140's. 2/ (Source awaiting)>Invicta DAC>RotelRKB2100 Power amp>Rega's. Tertiary multiroom areas: Same QNAP>SMB>Sonos>Various. MULTICHANNEL- MacMini>A+(Standalone mode)>Exasound e28 >5.1 analog out>Yamaha Avantage Receiver>Pre-outs>Linn Chakra power amps>Linn Katan front and sides. Linn Trikan Centre. Velodyne SPL1000 Ultra Link to comment
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