CJH Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Will HQP see the ADI-2 Pro FS as a 4 channel DAC using ASIO? CJH Link to comment
Popular Post Miska Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 7 hours ago, asdf1000 said: Modern electronic, pop, urban music etc would all fit in this same category right? poly-sinc-short-mp would be ideal for these styles? These genres are mostly mixed entirely on computer these days (they call it "in the box") Yes, it should be good fit for such too. 5 hours ago, Solstice380 said: I find that one very good for classic rock, pop, prog, etc. I listened a lot of older Pink Floyd when developing the poly-sinc-short filter. And I mostly poly-sinc-short-mp for such music. The most used test track was San Tropez from Meddle-album. poly-sinc-ext2 also works surprisingly well on that track, which I didn't originally expect from the ext2 filter. asdf1000 and OzarkMtn 1 1 Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Miska Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 5 hours ago, skipspence said: @Miska Is there any possible to install HQP Client on a x86 OS? Guess not but asking here just for sure? Got spare Windows x86 tablet but using Win RDP to select source URI just unbearable☹️... I asked @Ales Prochazka if he could add the feature like source URI in HQPControl app but not sure if it's possible for him either? All 32-bit OS support is fading out of all development tools. At the moment I don't have development tools installed for building such 32-bit Windows version. Linux build could be more feasible. Is the tablet really 32-bit only? Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Miska Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 3 hours ago, CJH said: Will HQP see the ADI-2 Pro FS as a 4 channel DAC using ASIO? No, in multichannel mode ADI-2 maps digital I/O to the channels, but not separate DACs. Both DACs get same data. Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Zauurx Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I wanted to test my old core i5 server as NAA with the naa-4112-x64.7z image. After the boot, I have the pc on the network, I can ping it from the server where HQP Desktop is but HQP doesn't see it. I wanted to test this machine instead of my Allo USBridge. ROON + HQP / Hdplex H3-i5 + 400ATX >Gustard A26 (NAA twk) > SQM > Benchmark AHB2 / Recital Audio Illumine HEFA Link to comment
skipspence Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Miska said: All 32-bit OS support is fading out of all development tools. At the moment I don't have development tools installed for building such 32-bit Windows version. Linux build could be more feasible. Is the tablet really 32-bit only? Yes 32-bit (Windows 8.1) on 64-bit cpu.. I should reinstall for 64-bit if I could, but good idea anyway 😁 Thank you! PS. Or does a 32-bit HQP 3.XX version have Client? Audio System Link to comment
Guf Gufler Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 My windows powerhouse computer died. I have been using for years for 512 upsampling. I'm trying to use my iMac Quad core to upsample to dsd 128 then to my older microrendu hard wired through my netgear orbi. It easily works while using the hqplayer host computer but trying to use my rendu and NAA It barely can get going. Is there something obvious I'm missing? Link to comment
Reg19 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Guf Gufler said: My windows powerhouse computer died. I have been using for years for 512 upsampling. I'm trying to use my iMac Quad core to upsample to dsd 128 then to my older microrendu hard wired through my netgear orbi. It easily works while using the hqplayer host computer but trying to use my rendu and NAA It barely can get going. Is there something obvious I'm missing? FWIW: my Mac Mini M1 and ultraRendu work flawlessly with HQP (I upsample from PCM to DSD256 using ASDM7EC, poly-sinc-ext2). Link to comment
Guf Gufler Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Reg19 said: FWIW: my Mac Mini M1 and ultraRendu work flawlessly with HQP (I upsample from PCM to DSD256 using ASDM7EC, poly-sinc-ext2). thanks, yeah mine to, until I try to send it to the Rendu. Thats why I'm confused. Link to comment
Popular Post jiminlogansquare Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Miska said: Yes, it should be good fit for such too. I listened a lot of older Pink Floyd when developing the poly-sinc-short filter. And I mostly poly-sinc-short-mp for such music. The most used test track was San Tropez from Meddle-album. poly-sinc-ext2 also works surprisingly well on that track, which I didn't originally expect from the ext2 filter. As long as we’re on this topic, can I ask what type of music you did originally expect ext2 to work best with? Relatedly, have you ever put together a list matching genres of music to filters? Or at least which filter(s) best match classical and jazz? Thanks! k6davis and fds 2 Link to comment
Popular Post ted_b Posted March 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2021 Jussi, I'm sure us HQPlayer users (especially those getting started) would LOVE an addition to the user manual with a reference to the music you successfully mated/tested with these (especially) filters and modulators..like the St Tropez reference. 👍 We realize that you have some that likely you've put out to pasture, personally, so to speak, such as non-EC modulators, so we wouldn't expect a comprehensive list. But it may even cut down on the same old requests here on the forum. It would give folks a starting point. My $.02 HeeBroG, k6davis, fds and 2 others 4 1 "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
Miska Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 14 hours ago, skipspence said: PS. Or does a 32-bit HQP 3.XX version have Client? No, the server/client split happened from v3 to to v4 transition. Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Miska Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 15 hours ago, Zauurx said: I wanted to test my old core i5 server as NAA with the naa-4112-x64.7z image. After the boot, I have the pc on the network, I can ping it from the server where HQP Desktop is but HQP doesn't see it. I wanted to test this machine instead of my Allo USBridge. Does it have multiple network interfaces? If it does, the boot doesn't complete until all ethernet interfaces are configured through DHCP. If that's the case, you can try HQPlayer OS image instead, it will bridge all the interfaces and allow boot to complete even if all are not up. Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Miska Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 13 hours ago, Guf Gufler said: My windows powerhouse computer died. I have been using for years for 512 upsampling. I'm trying to use my iMac Quad core to upsample to dsd 128 then to my older microrendu hard wired through my netgear orbi. It easily works while using the hqplayer host computer but trying to use my rendu and NAA It barely can get going. Is there something obvious I'm missing? Rendu will have problems if network doesn't have 802.3x Flow Control functional, since it cannot deal with full gigabit speeds. Symptom for the problem are frequent longer drop-outs caused by network stalls due to massive network packet loss and subsequent re-sends. When flow control is active, there is no packet loss because the hardware pauses traffic when network packet buffer becomes full (inside the ethernet interface hardware). Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Miska Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 10 hours ago, jiminlogansquare said: As long as we’re on this topic, can I ask what type of music you did originally expect ext2 to work best with? Relatedly, have you ever put together a list matching genres of music to filters? Or at least which filter(s) best match classical and jazz? Thanks! My expectation was mostly for classical. But for some reason, it seems to be very good all-rounder. I have some theories why that could be the case, but it is not always easy to match subjective experiences with objective properties. For jazz too, poly-sinc-short-mp (and poly-sinc-mp) are good, if it's a close-mic'ed production. For some productions made in clubs (Jazz at the Pawnshop) with less microphones, linear phase versions of short filters like poly-sinc-short-lp and poly-sinc-lp may be good. And for example ext2 is of course still worth trying. I have thought about adding some genre suggestions to the filter table in the manual. But since filters have large personal preference factor due to different aspects of sound different people are sensitive to, it could be also misleading. So at least it would need to come with bold notice that "don't get stuck to these suggestions, try also other filters". jiminlogansquare 1 Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
jiminlogansquare Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Thanks. Perhaps you could provide some broad-stroke genre/filter pairing suggestions with a sentence or two explaining the underlying rationale - e.g., what characteristics of the genre or recording methods you would expect to be enhanced by the filter, similar to how you have explained the variety of jazz recordings above. In addition to issues of individual taste in sound, about which you are surely correct, categories of “musical genre” are broad and definitionally fuzzy at the edges. These broad categories smooth over much of the nuance of actual artistic choices by composers and performers, which can cross genre boundaries (e.g., classical works that include jazz drum sets, electric guitars, synthesizers; rock recordings that include strings or choirs). And of course as you say, genre categories don’t define the nature of the recording techniques and technologies that are inherent to the sound of any particular recording (like your example of the Jazz at the Pawn Shop recording versus a more typical close-mic’ed studio jazz recording). That all said, the number of filter and options in HQPlayer is impressive (and necessary) but also intimidating to a new user. Armed with a set of underlying principles to guide them, novice users could limit the field of choices as they start exploring the options rather than risk being overwhelmed by the choices. Thanks again! Link to comment
Popular Post StreamFidelity Posted March 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, jiminlogansquare said: Perhaps you could provide some broad-stroke genre/filter pairing suggestions with a sentence or two explaining the underlying rationale I have described some tips here: Audio PC Basics: Audio PC oversampling 😉 LoryWiv and jiminlogansquare 1 1 Grigg Audio Solutions Owner StreamFidelitys Setup: Sonus Faber Amati Futura | T+A M10 | T+A SDV 3100 HV | fis Audio PC & Server | GigaWatt PC4-EVO+ | JCAT OPTIMO S ATX | FARAD Super10 & Super3 | Keces P8 | Afterdark Buffalo Switch | fis Audio Cables | Solidsteel HJ-3 / HY-A Link to comment
Uni Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 4:34 PM, Miska said: Spotify is 44.1k, so you shouldn't be doing 192k input. Because then CoreAudio is doing rate conversion from 44.1k to 192k and that is unnecessary. No, not much simpler, either doing that from Client or from the server main window. Thanks Link to comment
Account Closed Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 4 hours ago, jiminlogansquare said: Thanks. Perhaps you could provide some broad-stroke genre/filter pairing suggestions with a sentence or two explaining the underlying rationale - e.g., what characteristics of the genre or recording methods you would expect to be enhanced by the filter, similar to how you have explained the variety of jazz recordings above. In addition to issues of individual taste in sound, about which you are surely correct, categories of “musical genre” are broad and definitionally fuzzy at the edges. These broad categories smooth over much of the nuance of actual artistic choices by composers and performers, which can cross genre boundaries (e.g., classical works that include jazz drum sets, electric guitars, synthesizers; rock recordings that include strings or choirs). And of course as you say, genre categories don’t define the nature of the recording techniques and technologies that are inherent to the sound of any particular recording (like your example of the Jazz at the Pawn Shop recording versus a more typical close-mic’ed studio jazz recording). That all said, the number of filter and options in HQPlayer is impressive (and necessary) but also intimidating to a new user. Armed with a set of underlying principles to guide them, novice users could limit the field of choices as they start exploring the options rather than risk being overwhelmed by the choices. Thanks again! As long as we are talking filters, I would like to put in a plug for Closed Form Fast. I have found that for me it works the best with Jazz, which according to Mr. Roon, I listen to 77.2% of the time. I only use SDM with ASDM7EC/256 into my Holo Spring 2 KTE DAC. YMMV and I have not tried it with PCM. I have done many hours of testing and other filters occasionally sound better on some material but CFF is a good all around filter. Link to comment
ted_b Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 39 minutes ago, bobflood said: I only use SDM with ASDM7EC/256 into my Holo Spring 2 KTE DAC. YMMV and I have not tried it with PCM. Bob, do you mean you only use jazz DSD recordings or do you mean you only upsample to DSD, not high rate PCM? "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
Popular Post Account Closed Posted March 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2021 36 minutes ago, ted_b said: Bob, do you mean you only use jazz DSD recordings or do you mean you only upsample to DSD, not high rate PCM? Ted, I only up-sample PCM to DSD. I use Roon for Qobuz and I do not have a local library anymore so I do not have any native DSD recordings. I tried high rate PCM (768 was the best I could get with my opticalRendu) but I just prefer 7EC/256 SDM. MemoryPlayer and k6davis 1 1 Link to comment
Ralf Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Hi! I am very curious to HQPlayer-Software. I got 2 Windows-PC (i3 8100, i3 4130, both without Graficcard), a Mytek DAC and Amp&Loudspeaker/Active Monitors. I use the i3 4130 just as Audioplayer with Foobar and Musicbee & have Audiophile Optimizer installed. This one sounds noticeably better - but it sometimes make Problems with Internetradio and more. Now I am looking for a better solution - and found HQPlayer. I have not tried it yet, I will wait with a trial until my new Speakers arrive. Some questions: - How often can I reinstall? - On how many PCs can I install? Maybe I have to buy new, stronger hardware, therefore I ask My favority solution would be: One PC just playing/rendering/streaming to DAC, the other PC has the control. I would like to use Foobar as the User Interface (sometimes maybe another Software, maybe Musikbee) Its hard for me to write in English... Bye Ralf, Germany Link to comment
blue2 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 21 hours ago, StreamFidelity said: I have described some tips here: Audio PC Basics: Audio PC oversampling 😉 Very good. Any more examples than Steely Dan Gaucho? BTW thanks also for the playlist. Half way through and it looks like Blackbird - Andrea Schroeder, Mettavolution (including their version of PF Echoes) - Rodrigo Y Gabriela, Sad Hunk - Bahamas are going in the shopping trolley! 🎸🎶🏔️🐺 Link to comment
StreamFidelity Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 42 minutes ago, blue2 said: Any more examples than Steely Dan Gaucho? BTW thanks also for the playlist. Many Thanks. I think I'll publish playlists for songs with a lot of percussion and bass. OzarkMtn 1 Grigg Audio Solutions Owner StreamFidelitys Setup: Sonus Faber Amati Futura | T+A M10 | T+A SDV 3100 HV | fis Audio PC & Server | GigaWatt PC4-EVO+ | JCAT OPTIMO S ATX | FARAD Super10 & Super3 | Keces P8 | Afterdark Buffalo Switch | fis Audio Cables | Solidsteel HJ-3 / HY-A Link to comment
w1000i Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 7:51 PM, Miska said: Yes, it should be good fit for such too. I listened a lot of older Pink Floyd when developing the poly-sinc-short filter. And I mostly poly-sinc-short-mp for such music. The most used test track was San Tropez from Meddle-album. poly-sinc-ext2 also works surprisingly well on that track, which I didn't originally expect from the ext2 filter. Is there any explanation/guide to your filters ? Link to comment
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