Miska Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, Yviena said: @Miska Hmm i followed the guide of one guy i found for THE PEQ filter in HQplayer according to his screenshot, mine is like this now. This is not supposed to create a crossfeed like in the middle only reverb/echo type of sound right? This feeds left channel to both left and right output channel with specified PEQ parameters. If you want stereo cross-feed, you'd create another similar set for right source channel too. There is also undocumented type "ap" which is all-pass filter that could be useful for such use case. Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
seeteeyou Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: I am 100% linux here, so the .exe will be next to useless in my case, but I appreciate the willingness. Archived for both Linux and Windows https://pastebin.com/raw/znnCu0Um Link to comment
toddrhodes Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I had mentioned earlier that I was seeing an issue where playback stopped, but only when one track was ending and another was to begin. I was able to isolate it in the log file, in case it's helpful for finding the cause: 2021/01/27 20:28:58 Teams: 1 2021/01/27 20:28:58 Places: 1 2021/01/27 20:28:58 Parallel threads: 16 2021/01/27 20:28:58 Nested parallelism: 4 2021/01/27 20:28:58 Parallel pipelines: 4 ! 2021/01/27 20:28:58 NAA output clNetEngine::PushSDM(): clNetEngine::Start(): not connected to adapter ! 2021/01/27 20:28:58 clHQPlayerEngine::Execute(): push to FIFO failed 2021/01/27 20:28:58 Stop request (reset) & 2021/01/27 20:28:58 Stop... - 2021/01/27 20:28:58 Playback engine stopped & 2021/01/27 20:28:58 ...stopped 2021/01/27 20:28:58 Set volume: -3 + # 2021/01/27 20:29:07 NAA output network Audio Adapter keepalive: clNetEngine::RecvResponse(): clSocket::WaitRead() 2021/01/27 20:29:08 NAA output network Audio IPv6 support enabled 2021/01/27 20:29:08 NAA output discovery from 0.0.0.0 & 2021/01/27 20:29:08 NAA output discovered network audio: name='naa' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1' @192.168.86.37:43210 & 2021/01/27 20:29:08 NAA output discovered network audio: name='naa' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1' @192.168.86.37:43210 2021/01/27 20:29:09 NAA output discovery from :: & 2021/01/27 20:29:09 NAA output discovered network audio: name='naa' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1' @[fe80::dea6:32ff:fe82:bff3%9]:43210 & 2021/01/27 20:29:09 NAA output discovered network audio: name='naa' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1' @[2600:1700:8c30:de2f:dea6:32ff:fe82:bff3]:43210 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output connect to [2600:1700:8c30:de2f:dea6:32ff:fe82:bff3]:43210 [ipv6] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network endpoint: bcm2835 ALSA: bcm2835 ALSA (hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0) 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network endpoint: bcm2835 ALSA: bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI (hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1) 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network endpoint: bcm2835 ALSA: bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 (hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2) 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network endpoint: USB HiRes Audio: USB Audio (hw:CARD=Audio,DEV=0) 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output discovered 1 Network Audio Adapters + 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output connect to [2600:1700:8c30:de2f:dea6:32ff:fe82:bff3]:43210 [ipv6] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 44100/32/2 [pcm] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 48000/32/2 [pcm] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 88200/32/2 [pcm] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 96000/32/2 [pcm] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 176400/32/2 [pcm] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 192000/32/2 [pcm] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 352800/32/2 [pcm] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 384000/32/2 [pcm] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 705600/32/2 [pcm] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 768000/32/2 [pcm] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 1411200/32/2 [pcm] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 1536000/32/2 [pcm] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 2822400/1/2 [dsd] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 3072000/1/2 [dsd] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 5644800/1/2 [dsd] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 6144000/1/2 [dsd] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 11289600/1/2 [dsd] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 12288000/1/2 [dsd] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 22579200/1/2 [dsd] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 24576000/1/2 [dsd] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 45158400/1/2 [dsd] 2021/01/27 20:29:10 NAA output network format: 49152000/1/2 [dsd] To reiterate, this has occurred back to 4.8 so I don't think it has anything to do with the 4.9 issue. The above was on 4.9, and I've also seen it on 4.91. Chain is: Win 10 PC with Roon Core feeds Win 10 PC with HQPlayer running on it only Both currently have their private network Windows Firewalls disabled, to see if that had any impact on this behavior Running to a Pi4 4Gb running the latest HQP NAA image And again, this is not the end of the world in terms of issues. I generally just have to tell Roon to skip a track or two (mind you it's on random/radio function at this point, I've not had it do this mid-album when I had a queue lined up or anything) and it starts back up without issue. Ryzen 3900x Roon Core PC -> Intel i9900k HQPlayer W10 machine -> iFi Zen Stream NAA Holo May KTE, Benchmark LA4 preamp SMC Audio upgraded DNA-125 Amp Dynaudio Confidence C2 Platinum speakers Vinyl rig - Schiit Sol, Nagaoka MP-500, Mod Squad PhonoDrive phono stage Link to comment
OzarkMtn Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 20 hours ago, Miska said: You could move the headroom adjustment and parametric eq to HQPlayer side. This way you get Roon sending bit-perfect data to HQPlayer. Can you please explain the steps to do this? Thanks Link to comment
sdolezalek Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 7 hours ago, luisma said: This is specific to your example iir:type=peak;f=59;g=+1.95;q=1.4,iir:type=peak;f=75;g=3;q=1.4,iir:type=peak;f=98;g=2.85;bw=1.01,iir:type=peak;f=136;g=-1.8;bw=1.01,iir:type=peak;f=241;g=1.65;bw=1.01,iir:type=peak;f=395;g=-1.2;bw=1.01 Like Miska said you need to use the bandwidth (bw) values or g (Q) values, I entered random values using the peak function, note there are others. Thank you very much for taking the time to write all that out as it confirmed that what I was doing was on the right path. I found my Q values from REW, but when I put that configuration in and tried to play it HQPlayer just sat there for 5 minutes doing nothing -- does it need to build a file that could take that long before first use? Synology NAS>i7-6700/32GB/NVIDIA QUADRO P4000 Win10>Qobuz+Tidal>Roon>HQPlayer>DSD512> Fiber Switch>Ultrarendu (NAA)>Holo Audio May KTE DAC> Bryston SP3 pre>Levinson No. 432 amps>Magnepan (MG20.1x2, CCR and MMC2x6) Link to comment
mikechw Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 @Miska I am considering buying Nvidia 3060Ti 8GB to run HQPlayer.. If I want to use LN15 Sin-L 1.535Mhz PCM, is 8GB enough ? and If I have 2 x Nvidia 3060Ti 8GB, Does HQPlayer uses both card's ram ? Thanks.. Link to comment
Geoffrey Armstrong Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 7 hours ago, seeteeyou said: Archived for both Linux and Windows https://pastebin.com/raw/znnCu0Um Thanks. Does anyone have an archived copy of 4.90 for x86-64 Macs? Owner of: Sound Galleries, High-End Audio Dealer, Monaco Link to comment
seeteeyou Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 FYI - everything with the potential "secret sauce" was archived as shown below, including HQPlayer4Desktop-x64-490.dmg https://pastebin.com/raw/sPjKLz9k blue2 1 Link to comment
Geoffrey Armstrong Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Great, thanks! Owner of: Sound Galleries, High-End Audio Dealer, Monaco Link to comment
Miska Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, sdolezalek said: Thank you very much for taking the time to write all that out as it confirmed that what I was doing was on the right path. I found my Q values from REW, but when I put that configuration in and tried to play it HQPlayer just sat there for 5 minutes doing nothing -- does it need to build a file that could take that long before first use? No, it doesn't take any time. When trying to start playback, watch the status bar for any error messages... Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Miska Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 hours ago, OzarkMtn said: Can you please explain the steps to do this? Thanks Headroom adjustment -> set HQPlayer volume to max -3 dBFS as anyway recommended. Regarding parametric EQ, see the other messages around this one. :) Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Miska Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 7 hours ago, toddrhodes said: I had mentioned earlier that I was seeing an issue where playback stopped, but only when one track was ending and another was to begin. I was able to isolate it in the log file, in case it's helpful for finding the cause: This has been fixed in 4.9.2. toddrhodes 1 Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Yviena Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Miska said: This feeds left channel to both left and right output channel with specified PEQ parameters. If you want stereo cross-feed, you'd create another similar set for right source channel too. There is also undocumented type "ap" which is all-pass filter that could be useful for such use case. Hmm so like this you mean? Link to comment
Hensema Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 IIR is still broken in 4.9.2. No sound at all, but visually hqplayer seems to play. I reverted back to 4.4.0 and that fixed IIR. Link to comment
Miska Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Hensema said: IIR is still broken in 4.9.2. No sound at all, but visually hqplayer seems to play. I reverted back to 4.4.0 and that fixed IIR. OK, found it, I will fix it shortly. Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Miska Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 43 minutes ago, Yviena said: Hmm so like this you mean? Yes, although now you have -6.3 dB gain on left channel and 0 dB gain on right channel. Check out also the plots. Not sure the results are what you expect if everything is the same for each pipeline. Or is there some difference between left and right ear EQ spec? Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Hensema Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Miska said: OK, found it, I will fix it shortly. Thank you! Link to comment
OzarkMtn Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Miska said: Headroom adjustment -> set HQPlayer volume to max -3 dBFS as anyway recommended. Regarding parametric EQ, see the other messages around this one. :) Thank you! In Roon under Headroom Management, should I enable this? If so, what value should I use? Will dig further in to the parametric EQ. Is there a "default" setting. Link to comment
Yviena Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Miska said: Yes, although now you have -6.3 dB gain on left channel and 0 dB gain on right channel. Check out also the plots. Not sure the results are what you expect if everything is the same for each pipeline. Or is there some difference between left and right ear EQ spec? Woops just saw that, I forgot to adjust the gain on the 2 last ones, but maybe it would be easier to just use the inbuilt crossfeed instead. Link to comment
MemoryPlayer Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Why my God, 4.90 sounds so better than 4.92? Link to comment
MemoryPlayer Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 @Mischa Did you try this diable? https://ifi-audio.com/products/idsd-diablo/ Link to comment
3ggerhappy Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Curious about 4.9.0 sound what's the equivalent version in embedded😂? I also like IIR currently broken in my embedded version😔. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I find that if I let 4.9.0 play without skipping songs, or pausing, etc... It plays fine with no problems. No electron left behind. Link to comment
CheapSplurge Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 On 1/27/2021 at 11:05 AM, bobflood said: You will likely have problems just like when you tried it before. I just don't know how to use Hqplayer eq. Or where to get various l presets to load into it. Link to comment
Popular Post Nenon Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 @Miska - I've heard from quite a few people how good your v.4.90 release sounded. There is small group of people including me, @austinpop, @ray-dude, and a few others who are really interested to narrow down what exactly made v.4.90 so good. Given that the sound quality improvement went away in v.4.91 and some of it but not all appeared back in v.4.92, we might be able to come up with a logical and repeatable process to discover what contributed to the SQ improvement. Would you be interested to work with a small group of people who can test various release changes for you to get to the bottom of this? We are quite enthusiastic to find out what improved the SQ. If you are too, we are here to offer some help to get to the bottom of it. If you are not, it's completely understandable as well. Let us know either way. Gavin1977, Account Closed, onlychild and 3 others 4 2 Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
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