HQ Player

[Solstice380]

5 hours ago, firedog said:

Stack Audio Link II just added NAA support. It's also certified Roon Ready, plus UPnP, Squeezelite, Librespot, and Shareport.

It's running a propriety version of RopieeeXL.

Looks interesting for USD850.   Little weird being a streamer itself and a Roon and NAA endpoint.  

[juanitox]

23 minutes ago, Solstice380 said:

Looks interesting for USD850.   Little weird being a streamer itself and a Roon and NAA endpoint.  

 

a Micro rendu will be cheaper as NAA and reclocked USB source ,  with all the DAC existing with I2S input it is disapointing there is no little streamers like the MR but with ethernet input and I2S out ..

[firedog]

2 hours ago, Solstice380 said:

Looks interesting for USD850.   Little weird being a streamer itself and a Roon and NAA endpoint.  

It doesn't have a DAC, it's just a network to digital device.

[The Computer Audiophile]

I may lose my title of The Computer Audiophile on this one, but I can't figure out what's going on. HQPlayer is resampling everything to PCM even though I have SDM selected. 

 

Anyone see something in this config that looks wrong?

 

 

[firedog]

1 hour ago, juanitox said:

 

a Micro rendu will be cheaper as NAA and reclocked USB source ,  with all the DAC existing with I2S input it is disapointing there is no little streamers like the MR but with ethernet input and I2S out ..

I used to have a micro rendu and I like this better:

1) has ethernet and wifi (you can only use one, i.e., you don't have to activate wifi);

2) it also has a USB in for direct connection to USB sources;

3) It's larger and heavier (case milled from a block of aluminum) so is more stable, looks nicer, and has built in heat dissipation so it stays cool.

In my mind that makes it worth the additional cost. YMMV.

[The Computer Audiophile]

Now I'm getting only garbled audio. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

I figured it out and can't believe I made this mistake. 

 

I accidentally left Roon Bridge running on the same machine as the NAA. So dumb. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

On another note, anyone know what this message is all about?

 

# No impulse response for channel 31

 

[Solstice380]

1 hour ago, firedog said:

It doesn't have a DAC, it's just a network to digital device.

Here we go with that streamer nomenclature issue again!  Of course I know what it does.  My point is that you get to do either one or the other with it, stream or use as Roon or NAA endpoint.  You can’t use it for both at the same time!

[AudioDoctor]

7 hours ago, Miska said:

 

I don't know... I only know it works fine for me when I write the image using bmaptool

 

 

I appreciate all your help, I am really trying but I am still a linux noob, so please bare with me.

[AudioDoctor]

2 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

I figured it out and can't believe I made this mistake. 

 

I accidentally left Roon Bridge running on the same machine as the NAA. So dumb. 

 

We all have our moments Chris, don't feel bad.

[Luca72c]

Nobody had the chance to try HQPlayer on a Zen3 cpu still?

Has AMD released ghost processors? 🤔

[asdf1000]

On 1/5/2021 at 4:27 AM, AudioDoctor said:

 

Why would Etcher write Ropiee to the SD card just fine, but not your NAA image to the exact same SD card? The only difference in the entire chain is your NAA image.

 

No problems for me using etcher on Ubuntu Studio 20.04.1 LTS, writing NAA and HQP OS images to SD cards and USB sticks..

 

[AudioDoctor]

1 hour ago, asdf1000 said:

 

No problems for me using etcher on Ubuntu Studio 20.04.1 LTS, writing NAA and HQP OS images to SD cards and USB sticks..

 

 

I also have no problems using Etcher... on anything else.

[AudioDoctor]

4 hours ago, Luca72c said:

Nobody had the chance to try HQPlayer on a Zen3 cpu still?

Has AMD released ghost processors? 🤔

 

I have a 5950x in my desktop and I am trying to get my NAA working...

[Solstice380]

6 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

We all have our moments Chris, don't feel bad.

I hear ya!  How about hooking up a physical component and getting no sound, only to find out there was a switch on the unit as well as the outboard power supply.  That took me 30 minutes before I saw it.  Sheeeeeesh.

[AudioDoctor]

47 minutes ago, Solstice380 said:

I hear ya!  How about hooking up a physical component and getting no sound, only to find out there was a switch on the unit as well as the outboard power supply.  That took me 30 minutes before I saw it.  Sheeeeeesh.

 

I've probably spent at least that amount of time looking for the culprit before noticing I had the wrong input selected on the receiver...

[AudioDoctor]

Ok @Miska I wrote the image to the SD card using bmaptool, still nothing.

[Luca72c]

If you have no success using HQP NAA image, you can try Gentooplayer. I use it on my NAA and never had a problem with it, very efficient and easy to setup without linux knowledge, via web iterface. Very good sounding too and allowing RT kernel choice and RAM disk setup if you want.

Latest versions require registration via email, but that's easy too.

[Rune]

or just try Ropiee XL which I did when the HQP NAA image did not work for me.

[Rune]

14 hours ago, Luca72c said:

Nobody had the chance to try HQPlayer on a Zen3 cpu still?

Has AMD released ghost processors? 🤔

I also have a 5950X in my Desktop and had mixed success with HQPlayer Desktop for Windows. I was not able to do DSd256 ASDM7EC stable the dropout was less frequent than on my previous 3600X. This was done with no OC.

I still have to try with embedded. 

[Luca72c]

40 minutes ago, Rune said:

I also have a 5950X in my Desktop and had mixed success with HQPlayer Desktop for Windows. I was not able to do DSd256 ASDM7EC stable the dropout was less frequent than on my previous 3600X. This was done with no OC.

I still have to try with embedded. 

 

Did you try various multicore DSP and/or Ryzen master cores management settings? 

On paper, 5950x should have plenty of single core power for the job... OC should not be needed

[toddrhodes]

2 hours ago, Rune said:

I also have a 5950X in my Desktop and had mixed success with HQPlayer Desktop for Windows. I was not able to do DSd256 ASDM7EC stable the dropout was less frequent than on my previous 3600X. This was done with no OC.

I still have to try with embedded. 

 

Make sure "Multicore DSP" is grayed, not checked, and even if you have a CUDA GPU installed, fully uncheck CUDA offload and see how you do then. 

 

I can say that ASDM7EC at 256/48 is very much my "wall" at the moment. Overclocked 6700k at 4.5Ghz and now an i9900KF at 5.1Ghz can do no more than 7EC @ 256/48 on 24/192 PCM files (all the way down to Redbook) using at most Sinc-M, or any of the -2s filters. Sinc-L will drop out periodically.

 

But beyond Sinc-L I can do most any filter on a CPU that would pass a single thread PassMark rating right about where the 5950x would land. It's just that the power required for anything further is pretty immense. I can do the ASDM7 +512fs and DSD1024/48 using just about any filter, but to my ears, the 7EC at 256 is better.

 

Just sort of passing along the results of my experiments I've been doing, and sort of wrapped up last night. I don't know that there's much out there that will out single-thread a 9900KF at 5.1Ghz, and that's the type of power required for the EC modulators. Fully-checked "Multicore DSP" and in some cases, CUDA Offload, can decrease performance in my rig, but the CUDA bit is purely anecdotal for now. It's at least worth a shot though. For reference, I'm only using a Geforce 1030 GPU so it is NOT a powerhouse by any stretch, and it's brand new for this rig because my KF CPU has no integrated GPU.

 

Edit - and to clarify, I am overclocked, but simply using the built-in OC tools ("AI Overclock") on my Asus motherboard. RAM is only clocked at 2133 as well. Without an OC, so 3.6Ghz, my 9900KF does not perform to the level of my 6700k, with or without OC (he says, a little bit angrily). I'm also running a stripped down version of W10. I tried all the same things above on UbuntuStudio 20.04 and found that there is no difference sonically, and no difference in performance, on my rig, between the operating systems. Win is just easier to run in my broader LAN.

 

And so concludes this morning's alphabet soup.

[Lbameule]

11 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

Ok @Miska I wrote the image to the SD card using bmaptool, still nothing.

Just trying to help here, please forgive me if this seems too dumb, but have youchecked the SD card is not locked? Physically, I mean, some of them have a sliding thing that locks or unlocks the card.

 

Hope it helps!

 

L

 

[The Computer Audiophile]

I would try another card or two and see if you can see the actual image written to the card by looking at the file system.