HQ Player

[louisxiawei]

4 minutes ago, simonklp said:

 

I concur with the saything that HQP 3.15.1 has a more natural sound than 3.16, although the sound of 3.16 is more smooth, i.e. less harshness.

 

I'm afraid not 3.15.1 but 3.15. 3.15.1 really has the problem.

 

I'm now a 3.16 lover. 

 

I set the buffer time to 100ms and re-install the fidelizer pro. So do harsheness like 3.15.1

 

 

[Le Concombre Masqué]

21 minutes ago, louisxiawei said:

I'm afraid not 3.15.1 but 3.15. 3.15.1 really has the problem.

 

I'm now a 3.16 lover. 

 

I set the buffer time to 100ms and re-install the fidelizer pro. So do harsheness like 3.15.1

 

 

Very interesting...

A little while ago I asked Miska about Fidelizer and Process Lasso (and ParkControl) and he discouraged my use of these products for it interferes with HQP.

 

I suspect that all the goodness to be obtained from those products are more that ever inside HQP, hence my love for 3.16 and its better than ever SQ.  But the risks of interference have risen then. 

Indeed Miska is pretty transparent on signalyst.com : "HQPlayer Desktop 3.16.0 released!
 Improved support for higher number of CPU cores (8+) and automatic configuration for multicore systems."

[Le Concombre Masqué]

6 minutes ago, Le Concombre Masqué said:

 

 

[louisxiawei]

1 minute ago, Le Concombre Masqué said:

Very interesting...

A little while ago I asked Miska about Fidelizer and Process Lasso (and ParkControl) and he discouraged my use of these products for it interferes with HQP.

 

I suspect that all the goodness to be obtained from those products are more that ever inside HQP.  But the risks of interference have risen then. 

 

Good to know. Thanks for the information.

 

My PC's performance is on the edge. (i7 3770 + GTX 780). With the help of Fidelizer pro 7.6, i do feel that running HQplayer is more stable. However, there is no SQ improvment regaring using HQplayer + Fidelizer Pro.

 

Without Fidelizer pro, I can't do too much multi task when HQplayer is running for the upsampling to DSD512. Otherwise, it would cause playback stutter when open other prorgramme on my PC.

 

Now I can at least reply to you while listen to HQplayer's DSD512 using poly-sinc-xrt-2s filter.

[Le Concombre Masqué]

4 minutes ago, louisxiawei said:

Good to know. Thanks for the information.

 

My PC's performance is on the edge. (i7 3770 + GTX 780). With the help of Fidelizer pro 7.6, i do feel that running HQplayer is more stable. However, there is no SQ improvment regaring using HQplayer + Fidelizer Pro.

 

Without Fidelizer pro, I can't do too much multi task when HQplayer is running for the upsampling to DSD512. Otherwise, it would cause playback stutter when open other prorgramme on my PC.

 

Now I can at least reply to you while listen to HQplayer's DSD512 using poly-sinc-xrt-2s filter.

[simonklp]

22 minutes ago, Le Concombre Masqué said:

 

I do not use Fidelizer and Process Lazzo. I have only installed HQP with AO.

 

Although I also feel that 3.16 is somewhat smoother in SQ, I like 3.15 more because its sound appears to be more natural.

[tboooe]

10 minutes ago, simonklp said:

I do not use Fidelizer and Process Lazzo. I have only installed HQP with AO.

 

Although I also feel that 3.16 is somewhat smoother in SQ, I like 3.15 more because its sound appears to be more natural.

 

I think I agree with this.  3.16 does sound good but 3.15 does sound better to me too.  I think I am going to downgrade back to that version.

[Theobetley]

52 minutes ago, tboooe said:

 

I think I agree with this.  3.16 does sound good but 3.15 does sound better to me too.  I think I am going to downgrade back to that version.

 

52 minutes ago, tboooe said:

 

I think I agree with this.  3.16 does sound good but 3.15 does sound better to me too.  I think I am going to downgrade back to that version.

Give it time. I had to breakin 3.16 over 2 days before it sounded great.

[zorntel]

1 hour ago, Theobetley said:

 

Give it time. I had to breakin 3.16 over 2 days before it sounded great.

For me 3.16.0 is a huge Improvement in sound over 3.15.1. I had actually gone to 3.14.4 because of the sound in 3.15.1. Has also been more reliable in my system. I'm using an IFI Black Label at DSD512. 

[bogi]

4 hours ago, simonklp said:

I concur with the saything that HQP 3.15.1 has a more natural sound than 3.16, although the sound of 3.16 is more smooth, i.e. less harshness.

 

Aren't you mixing 3.15.0 (often referred as 3.15) and 3.15.1 ?

[mirekti]

4 hours ago, Theobetley said:

 

Give it time. I had to breakin 3.16 over 2 days before it sounded great.

 

What did you have to break in?

[tboooe]

5 minutes ago, mirekti said:

 

What did you have to break in?

Agreed.  I was wondering the same thing.

[Keith_W]

Ahem. Coming back on topic. Miska, I will be building a new PC. The objective of my new PC is to have enough processing power to run HQPlayer, convolving 8 channels, and in DSD256. I am prepared to spend as much money as is necessary to reach my objectives

 

I have a question for you - should I go with Broadwell-E (more CPU cores, but less pipeline speed), or Kaby Lake (cheaper, fewer cores, more pipeline speed). Essentially, does HQP prefer more cores, or more pipeline speed? 

 

Of course I have already factored a GTX 1080 video card into the equation. 

 

(Choice of Broadwell-E vs. Kaby Lake also means that I have more TDP to deal with, which in turn will impact on the choice of case and design of the PC, so this is a very important question for me!) 

 

Funny that I am building a $3-4000 computer just to run your software. They should pay you a commission. 

[bogi]

Maybe the 'software break in' happens in head. We have to accustom to a new sound, simply we have to learn some new thing - it's like with other new things and it may take some time.

[ismewor]

This is a new term to me software break-in. I bet it only happen in audiophile. :-)

[Quadman]

1 hour ago, Keith_W said:

Ahem. Coming back on topic. Miska, I will be building a new PC. The objective of my new PC is to have enough processing power to run HQPlayer, convolving 8 channels, and in DSD256. I am prepared to spend as much money as is necessary to reach my objectives

 

I have a question for you - should I go with Broadwell-E (more CPU cores, but less pipeline speed), or Kaby Lake (cheaper, fewer cores, more pipeline speed). Essentially, does HQP prefer more cores, or more pipeline speed? 

 

Of course I have already factored a GTX 1080 video card into the equation. 

 

(Choice of Broadwell-E vs. Kaby Lake also means that I have more TDP to deal with, which in turn will impact on the choice of case and design of the PC, so this is a very important question for me!) 

 

Funny that I am building a $3-4000 computer just to run your software. They should pay you a commission. 

 

Keith, If you are using 8 channel convolution the I am sure miska will tell you more cores but perhaps more importantly more memory channels, If cost no object intel 6950X ($1600 in US) is the king, 6900 (around $1000) or budget 6850 ($600)  all the above have 6 cores or more minimum of 15MB L3 cache and 4 channels of memory which you want to populate.  Miska uses the  6950x for his multichannel system.

[Theobetley]

2 hours ago, tboooe said:

Agreed.  I was wondering the same thing.

 

When you have new software it may stress different parts of your hardware (caps etc etc) in ways they have not been stressed before. Hence break in. It is not a matter of getting used to the sound. The sound changes.

[wgscott]

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[SwissBear]

2 hours ago, Keith_W said:

 have a question for you - should I go with Broadwell-E (more CPU cores, but less pipeline speed), or Kaby Lake (cheaper, fewer cores, more pipeline speed). Essentially, does HQP prefer more cores, or more pipeline speed? 

 

Of course I have already factored a GTX 1080 video card into the equation. 

 

(Choice of Broadwell-E vs. Kaby Lake also means that I have more TDP to deal with, which in turn will impact on the choice of case and design of the PC, so this is a very important question for me!) 

 

Hi Keith,

This link might give you some clues: https://www.computeraudiophile.com/blogs/entry/493-building-a-new-server-for-multichannel-processing/

[dminches]

Even since I upgraded my microRendu to 3.5 HQPlayer cannot find the NAA unless I reboot it.  I used it last night but then powered off my DAC.  HQPlayer needed to be restarted tonight and now it can't find the mR unless I reboot it.  Did something change in the NAA 3.5 which could be causing it?  Is there a specific version of HQPlayer that I need to be running with 3.5?  Very frustrating.

[simonklp]

6 hours ago, bogi said:

 

Aren't you mixing 3.15.0 (often referred as 3.15) and 3.15.1 ?

I originally referred to the 3.15.1 which was the last version that I used to listen before upgrading to 3.16. When Louis mentioned about 3.15, I had then compared it with 3.16, and I also found it more natural sounding than 3.16. But I have not compared if there is any difference in sound between 3.15 and 3.15.1.

 

In short, I feel both 3.15 and 3.15.1 are of more natural sounding than 3.16.

[Keith_W]

3 hours ago, Quadman said:

 

Keith, If you are using 8 channel convolution the I am sure miska will tell you more cores but perhaps more importantly more memory channels, If cost no object intel 6950X ($1600 in US) is the king, 6900 (around $1000) or budget 6850 ($600)  all the above have 6 cores or more minimum of 15MB L3 cache and 4 channels of memory which you want to populate.  Miska uses the  6950x for his multichannel system.

 

Thank you, that is very valuable information. That 6950X you mention has 10 cores, as opposed to lesser models which have 8 cores. I think my mind has been made up ... I will go with a 6950X. 

 

2 hours ago, SwissBear said:

Hi Keith,

This link might give you some clues: https://www.computeraudiophile.com/blogs/entry/493-building-a-new-server-for-multichannel-processing/

 

Wow, I somehow missed that blog entry! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!! My build will be a bit different from Miska's, in that I require an optical drive, will be water cooling, and will be using an outboard power supply. Time to do some research ... in particular, I will need a mobo and cooling system to suit my needs. 

 

Miska (if you are reading this) ... can you comment on how much noise that server you built makes? If it is quiet enough I might dispense with watercooling and just go with what you put together. 

[hifial]

14 hours ago, DSD256 said:

You are mixing up some things. 

Miska makes comment on a DAC he does not know! Simply! And a very bad comment! An opinion is not believing..its about knowing. 

 

I must comment on your definition of opinion. As you can see it is not based on knowing as you believe. 

 

o·pin·ion

əˈpinyən/

noun

1. a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

   "I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance"

   synonyms:

   belief, judgment, thought(s), (way of) thinking, mind, (point of) view, viewpoint, outlook, attitude, stance, position, perspective, persuasion, standpoint;

[bibo01]

@Miska

On W10 from 3.13.3 onward HQPlayer crashes if Asio4all is selected for HRT Music streamer II + (it has a WDM driver only). With other players, however, it does not crash.  

[andru26]

Hello, anybody knows how I can extend the trial period for HQ Player? I just bought a new DAC and I would like to assess how it sounds with HQP before purchsing a licence.