upsampling

[Le Concombre Masqué]

I tried many flavors in A+, I obtained (much) better results upsampling offline in RX3, I quit upsampling, I came back to upsampling (7/1.03/0.6), this morning I liked 12/1.05/0.6 better but finally decided to stop upsampling (yeah it might sound more defined but less organic and coherent...)

 

Am I deaf ?

 

(My DAC is a TEAC 501, upconvert off, sharp PCM filter)

[NOMBEDES]

Am I deaf ?

 

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No.

[crisnee]

Defined vs. organic and coherent; hmmm.

 

Defined? A violin sounds like a violin?

Organic? A violin sounds like a violin without pesticides?

Coherent? A violin that speaks good clear violin as opposed to nonsense violin?

 

Chris

[bluesman]

Defined vs. organic and coherent; hmmm.

 

Defined? A violin sounds like a violin?

Organic? A violin sounds like a violin without pesticides?

Coherent? A violin that speaks good clear violin as opposed to nonsense violin?

 

Chris

And that's what's wrong with the world today..........too much violins.

 

[Le Concombre Masqué]

Defined vs. organic and coherent; hmmm.

 

Defined? A violin sounds like a violin?

Organic? A violin sounds like a violin without pesticides?

Coherent? A violin that speaks good clear violin as opposed to nonsense violin?

 

Chris

Gasp ! has Le Concombre Masqué been so tired that he got unmasked as French ?

 

This being, the intended meanings are valid in English per my dictionaries, albeit maybe not the most current uses of those adjectives...

 

2 mark out the boundary or limits of: (as adj. defined) : clearly defined boundaries.• make clear the outline of; delineate: she defined her eyes by applying eyeshadow.DERIVATIVESdefiner nounORIGIN late Middle English (also in the sense ‘bring to an end’): from Old French definer, from a variant of Latin definire, from de- (expressing completion) + finire ‘finish’ (from finis ‘end’).

ORIGIN late Middle English: via Latin from Greek organikos ‘relating to an organ or instrument.’3 denoting a relation between elements of something such that they fit together harmoniously as necessary parts of a whole: the organic unity of the integral work of art.• characterized by continuous or natural development: companies expand as much by acquisition as by organic growth.

 

2 united as or forming a whole: divided into a number of geographically coherent kingdoms.

 

oRIGIN mid 16th cent. (in the sense ‘logically related to’): from Latin cohaerent- ‘sticking together,’ from the verb cohaerere (see cohere) .

[NOMBEDES]

Bluesman (Quote): And that's what's wrong with the world today..........too much violins.

I say (Quote): More Cowbell!

 

Mr. Dylan sez: (Quote):

You would not think to look at him

But he was famous long ago

For playing the electric violin

On Desolation Row.

 

 

One of the greatest songs ever written by the inkfish Zimmerman - Desolation Row is my nomination for the new (replacement) national anthem .

[crisnee]

(yeah it might sound more defined but less organic and coherent...)

 

 

Alright, I'll be blunt. WTF does that mean as it relates to music? IOW, If I ask a salesman for less defined and more organic and coherent recordings can I expect to be satisfied. "Sure buddy, in bin A; all of those are certified to be less defined but more organic and coherent to boot. But, if you're just interested in more coherent try bin C#."

 

I was making a general comment as to the nebulous terms folks use to describe what they hear; you just happened to be the specific who got my comment.

 

Having said that, it would be interesting (to me at least) if you told us the differences you hear, in specific terms.

 

Chris

[crisnee]

And that's what's wrong with the world today..........too much violins.

 

 

Apparently you haven't experienced organic violins, it hurts so good and only kills on an emotional level.

 

Chris

[elcorso]

I tried many flavors in A+, I obtained (much) better results upsampling offline in RX3, I quit upsampling, I came back to upsampling (7/1.03/0.6), this morning I liked 12/1.05/0.6 better but finally decided to stop upsampling (yeah it might sound more defined but less organic and coherent...)

 

Am I deaf ?

 

(My DAC is a TEAC 501, upconvert off, sharp PCM filter)

 

No, you aren't deaf...!

 

Looking in several places for "organic music" definition everybody coincide in "natural" (as in real life), then non 'digitized' (like MP3?). Remember we are here in a digital world, or listening to music in his digital format.

 

Some people likes better, 'definition' (more details than in real life?).

 

I like better the "organic" presentation, but this is my taste.

 

Should I write (or translate) the "organic" definition to Corsican dialect? I don't think so, since music is the one and the only universal language, understood by everybody...!

 

Roch

[Le Concombre Masqué]

Alright, I'll be blunt. WTF does that mean as it relates to music? IOW, If I ask a salesman for less defined and more organic and coherent recordings can I expect to be satisfied. "Sure buddy, in bin A; all of those are certified to be less defined but more organic and coherent to boot. But, if you're just interested in more coherent try bin C#."

 

I was making a general comment as to the nebulous terms folks use to describe what they hear; you just happened to be the specific who got my comment.

 

Having said that, it would be interesting (to me at least) if you told us the differences you hear, in specific terms.

 

Chris

 

Here i will substitute the chosen adjectives by their definitions :

 

 

MORE "make clear the outline of; delineate:"

LESS "denoting a relation between elements of something such that they fit together harmoniously as necessary parts of a whole"

LESS united as or forming a whole

 

That's as good as I can tell the differences I hear ; quite subtle anyway

[Le Concombre Masqué]

No, you aren't deaf...!

 

Looking in several places for "organic music" definition everybody coincide in "natural" (as in real life), then non 'digitized' (like MP3?). Remember we are here in a digital world, or listening to music in his digital format.

 

Some people likes better, 'definition' (more details than in real life?).

 

I like better the "organic" presentation, but this is my taste.

 

Should I write (or translate) the "organic" definition to Corsican dialect? I don't think so, since music is the one and the only universal language, understood by everybody...!

 

Roch

j'en sens les herbes du maquis !

[Le Concombre Masqué]

btw : Archimago pointed an interesting setting for the TEAC switching on a minimum phase filter: upconvert on/pcm df off ; I'm currently trying upconvert on/pcm df slow.

[NOMBEDES]

No, you aren't deaf...!

 

Looking in several places for "organic music" definition everybody coincide in "natural" (as in real life), then non 'digitized' (like MP3?). Remember we are here in a digital world, or listening to music in his digital format.

 

Some people likes better, 'definition' (more details than in real life?).

 

I like better the "organic" presentation, but this is my taste.

 

Should I write (or translate) the "organic" definition to Corsican dialect? I don't think so, since music is the one and the only universal language, understood by everybody...!

 

Roch

 

 

 

ORGANIC MUSIC: 1. Music played on an organ. (not a violin)

[Munchoba]

ORGANIC MUSIC: 1. Music played on an organ. (not a violin)

 

Tee hee...There's a Beavis and Butthead joke there!

[Le Concombre Masqué]

FOR whom it may concern :

 

I played Amanda Lear's "Intellectually" to my youngest daughter who did not know her and she identified Amanda Lear as a man.

 

The revealing setting was upconvert on/ pcm df off : I'll live with it, with no other upsampling, until...