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Hi all,

 

I am just wondering how jriver for mac is going and if anybody using it yet.

i just got a Mac mini and wondering if I could download it to use it s basic features which in all honesty only what I need.

i have a naim uniti system and want to be able to stream all my music collection from it, but I know itunes and mac will does not support streaming, so may be jriver for mac would do it, or if you guys have any ideas, please let me know.

regards

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With regards to usage of JRiver For Mac there are many people using it successfully here including myself. With regards to streaming others might be able to answer that. I believe JRiver offers a free trial period. You might also visit their forum to discuss the streaming.

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I am a little bit confused- iTunes and Mac's certainly support streaming your music (and video, and pictures) around. That is pretty much what Airplay is all about of course. Does your Naim not support Airplay?

 

If not, JRMC does support DLNA, and can support multi-zone streaming from JRMC instance to JRMC instance.

 

Paul

Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC.

Robert A. Heinlein

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Burglarizing? :)

 

Each instance of JRMC can support multiple local zones, for instance, two USB modems and an HDMI connection and a TOSLink connection. Each one of which can be plated individually, or linked and synchronized. The best trick is, each one of those zones is also visible to remote instances of JRMC, allowing one to stream easily and cleanly. And of course, local zones defined on remote JRMC instances also appear on the local machine. I have several JRMC instances around running with an empty library, and only vpbeing used to stream content to. About as easy as Airplay once setup, and you can use. JREmote to control it all, *and* no problems with hapless playback or whatnot.

 

That answer what you were asking, or did I misunderstand?

 

 

 

Excuse the burglarizing of your conversation but if you have a min could you clarify the multi zone part of that statement?

Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC.

Robert A. Heinlein

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Hi all,

 

thanks for the replies.

naim does not support airplay at this stage unfortunately.

i had jriver on a PC and the naim gear always found the jriver files and played it with no problems but on mac I m not so sure it will.

i may even give up streaming altogether if too hard or unreliable with. Ac and go straight from computer to dac via usb cable.

regards

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Not a direct answer to your question but...

 

The Naim Uniti supports UPnP. One of the best UPnP servers is Minimserver. This can easily be setup on your Mac and pointed to your iTunes library. You can then use the Naim applications to control your music.

 

(As an aside some people report the Uniti sounds best with WAV files and you can set Minimserver to transcode to WAV prior to transmission to the Uniti)

 

Obviously this relies on your Mac being turned on. Further down the line you could add a NAS and run Minimserver on that instead.

 

Eloise

Eloise

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...in my opinion / experience...

While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing.

And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism.

keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out.

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Burglarizing? :)

Are you (well David / RealHiFi as they were doing the burglarizing) Bilbo Baggins?

 

Each instance of JRMC can support multiple local zones, for instance, two USB modems and an HDMI connection and a TOSLink connection. Each one of which can be plated individually, or linked and synchronized. The best trick is, each one of those zones is also visible to remote instances of JRMC, allowing one to stream easily and cleanly. And of course, local zones defined on remote JRMC instances also appear on the local machine. I have several JRMC instances around running with an empty library, and only vpbeing used to stream content to. About as easy as Airplay once setup, and you can use. JREmote to control it all, *and* no problems with hapless playback or whatnot.

Hapless playback ... I assume that's something to do with having no gaps when using iOS to type?

 

That answer what you were asking, or did I misunderstand?

Well there's plenty of typos to misunderstand there Paul :-)

 

Eloise (in jest)

Eloise

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...in my opinion / experience...

While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing.

And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism.

keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out.

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Are you (well David / RealHiFi as they were doing the burglarizing) Bilbo Baggins?

 

 

Hapless playback ... I assume that's something to do with having no gaps when using iOS to type?

 

 

Well there's plenty of typos to misunderstand there Paul :-)

 

Eloise (in jest)

 

Yi Yi Yi... Yeah typing on an iPad and I can not see what I am typing. Hapless gapless playback indeed. :):)

 

 

-Paul

Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC.

Robert A. Heinlein

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Hi all,

 

thanks for the replies.

naim does not support airplay at this stage unfortunately.

i had jriver on a PC and the naim gear always found the jriver files and played it with no problems but on mac I m not so sure it will.

i may even give up streaming altogether if too hard or unreliable with. Ac and go straight from computer to dac via usb cable.

regards

 

JRMC runs natively on MacOS, and all current Macs can also run Windows. No doors are closed to you. :)

Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC.

Robert A. Heinlein

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A couple years ago I tried several programs for my Mac mini and found , hands down, that in my opinion Amarra (playlist mode) was the most natural sounding . Now, I know others have different views, but for those Amarra appreciators, have any of you tried this j river Mac and found it to have that Amarra natural thing we love ?

mac mini 2011, Transparent audio usb cable, bryston bda-2, hegel h300 integrated amp, audio physic virgo 25 speakers, transparent audio speaker cables interconnects and digital cables.

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It it sounds a little more like Audirvana+ to me than Amarra, but very acceptable, especially with Mavericks. Mavericks restored integer mode and the difference is somewhat amazing.

 

As for remote / graphical control, JREmote is by far the best out there I think. And remote streaming is totally supported.

 

If you have not tried it, be prepared for a treat. :)

 

 

A couple years ago I tried several programs for my Mac mini and found , hands down, that in my opinion Amarra (playlist mode) was the most natural sounding . Now, I know others have different views, but for those Amarra appreciators, have any of you tried this j river Mac and found it to have that Amarra natural thing we love ?

Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC.

Robert A. Heinlein

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It it sounds a little more like Audirvana+ to me than Amarra, but very acceptable, especially with Mavericks. Mavericks restored integer mode and the difference is somewhat amazing.

 

As for remote / graphical control, JREmote is by far the best out there I think. And remote streaming is totally supported.

 

If you have not tried it, be prepared for a treat. :)

 

The reason I plan to re-survey my options is that Amarra playlist is tedious to use, and prone to glitches, and a key feature idea of computer based digital is convenience , but lack of remote (as exists with iTunes amarra) is a major negative. It mystifies me why Amarra has not addressed this by developing an app for playlist mode.

mac mini 2011, Transparent audio usb cable, bryston bda-2, hegel h300 integrated amp, audio physic virgo 25 speakers, transparent audio speaker cables interconnects and digital cables.

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The reason I plan to re-survey my options is that Amarra playlist is tedious to use, and prone to glitches, and a key feature idea of computer based digital is convenience , but lack of remote (as exists with iTunes amarra) is a major negative. It mystifies me why Amarra has not addressed this by developing an app for playlist mode.

 

Yea verily. None of those aggravations exist with JRMC, which while it has it's own problems are not issues with remote control, sound, or file formats.

 

The player is $50, and JRemote is $10. Just load it, point it at the piTunes physical library, and ensure you do not let it write to the metadata or physical files then you can do a one to one comparison with Amarra

Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC.

Robert A. Heinlein

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Paul,

 

indeed windows can be installed on a mac, but I ll try to stay away from that option. I need real simplicity, not for me per say, but more for the family so if I could everything from Mac OS I d be happy.

Good to know that it runs natively on mac, so does that mean my unity gear will see it as soon as I turn it on, just like on the windows version. I think it comes as 24 bit audiophile...then I just click on it via naim n-stream app and voila, ready to browse and play music.

 

Eloise,

 

thanks for for the advice on mini server. I will definitely look it up.

one more question I have before I leave you alone :), is if the kids are watching a movie in the theatre room thru the mini, will mini server be able to " fish out" the data and be able/allow my naim and n-stream to play music?

 

once again, thanks a lot for all the info

sincerely yours

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Eloise,

 

thanks for for the advice on mini server. I will definitely look it up.

one more question I have before I leave you alone :), is if the kids are watching a movie in the theatre room thru the mini, will mini server be able to " fish out" the data and be able/allow my naim and n-stream to play music?

 

once again, thanks a lot for all the info

sincerely yours

First; just so you are looking for the right thing; its Minim Server (minim as in half a semibreve or twice a crotchet).

 

But yes; MinimServer will run in the background to access your music regardless of what else the computer is doing.

 

You will find discussions on MinimServer on forums.naimaudio.com as well as www.minimserver.com

 

Eloise

Eloise

---

...in my opinion / experience...

While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing.

And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism.

keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out.

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I think the answer to your question is yes. :)

 

It may also be true, and I think it is, that your Naim unity will show up as a zone from JRMC. (It should do that on Windows as well.)

 

The reason I point that out is the JRemote app. It is what unified my family, though of course, most of us use iPads and iPhones. I believe it is without doubt, the best RC app out there, including but not limited to Apple's REMOTE.app, Sonos, Kinskey, Squeezebox, and others.

 

 

 

Paul,

 

indeed windows can be installed on a mac, but I ll try to stay away from that option. I need real simplicity, not for me per say, but more for the family so if I could everything from Mac OS I d be happy.

Good to know that it runs natively on mac, so does that mean my unity gear will see it as soon as I turn it on, just like on the windows version. I think it comes as 24 bit audiophile...then I just click on it via naim n-stream app and voila, ready to browse and play music.

 

Eloise,

 

thanks for for the advice on mini server. I will definitely look it up.

one more question I have before I leave you alone :), is if the kids are watching a movie in the theatre room thru the mini, will mini server be able to " fish out" the data and be able/allow my naim and n-stream to play music?

 

once again, thanks a lot for all the info

sincerely yours

Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC.

Robert A. Heinlein

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