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I just bought a copy of John Coltrane's A Love Supreme in DSD format. The files that actually downloaded, however, show .dsf file extensions. And I can't get them to play in my Oppo. Is .dsf something different than DSD?

 

It is DSD. .dsf is a "container" for the DSD file. Similar to a PCM track in the .Aiff or .wav container.

 

I'm not sure about .dsf playback on the Oppo. How are you trying to play it on the Oppo? Is it on direct attached USB storage, or are you using a computer connected to the Oppo?

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I just bought a copy of John Coltrane's A Love Supreme in DSD format. The files that actually downloaded, however, show .dsf file extensions. And I can't get them to play in my Oppo. Is .dsf something different than DSD?

 

DSD has a couple of formats: .dsf and .dff being the two. I don't have an Oppo but can tell you it is possible to change from .dsf to .dff (or the other way around). Most people prefer .dsf as it allows meta data to be stored with the file, while .dff does not. Other than that, they should be the same.

 

I hope that holds you over until someone with an Oppo responds.

 

Best,

John

 

P.S. I have that same download and really like it a lot!

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It is DSD. .dsf is a "container" for the DSD file. Similar to a PCM track in the .Aiff or .wav container.

 

I'm not sure about .dsf playback on the Oppo. How are you trying to play it on the Oppo? Is it on direct attached USB storage, or are you using a computer connected to the Oppo?

 

Thanks. I was trying to stream it from my MacBook Pro using JRiver. I guess I'll try playing it off of a USB and see if that works.

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Thanks. I was trying to stream it from my MacBook Pro using JRiver. I guess I'll try playing it off of a USB and see if that works.

If on the Mac, try changing the output settings (or DSP settings?) in JRiver to DoP= DSD over PCM. This was required for my TEAC DAC to play the .dsf files.

Hopefully someone with an Oppo can chime in.

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If on the Mac, try changing the output settings (or DSP settings?) in JRiver to DoP= DSD over PCM. This was required for my TEAC DAC to play the .dsf files.

Hopefully someone with an Oppo can chime in.

 

Tried that. Or at least I think I did. I first changed the Output encoding to DSD in DoP format. Cued up the Coltrane, but got an error message saying something went wrong with playback. Then I changed the output encoding back to normal, and changed bitstream to DSD. Again, error message.

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Tried that. Or at least I think I did. I first changed the Output encoding to DSD in DoP format. Cued up the Coltrane, but got an error message saying something went wrong with playback. Then I changed the output encoding back to normal, and changed bitstream to DSD. Again, error message.

 

This guide from Schitt on how to play DSD files through their Loki DSD DAC may point you in the right direction:

 

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FWIW, I have no problem playing DSF from JRiver to the Loki DAC connected to my Mac.

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I just bought a copy of John Coltrane's A Love Supreme in DSD format. The files that actually downloaded, however, show .dsf file extensions. And I can't get them to play in my Oppo. Is .dsf something different than DSD?

 

First, what Oppo do you have? If it is one of the latest generation (103, 103D, 105, 105D), the easiest and fastest way is to put the file(s) on a USB flash drive and plug it into the front panel USB receptacle. You then select that as the music source and the selections should appear on-screen. Finally, select track(s) and hit play. Should be in the user's manual.

Kal Rubinson

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The 105D will do DSD via the Asynchronous USB, but not the 105. You can stream DSD via SMB, or play DSD via a USB flash drive. Both sound great.

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First, what Oppo do you have? If it is one of the latest generation (103, 103D, 105, 105D), the easiest and fastest way is to put the file(s) on a USB flash drive and plug it into the front panel USB receptacle. You then select that as the music source and the selections should appear on-screen. Finally, select track(s) and hit play. Should be in the user's manual.

 

It's a 105. I've used the flash drive approach before, but my problem yesterday was that I was trying to stream the DSD from my computer in the same way I'm streaming FLACs (using JRiver). I now understand that the Oppo doesn't support that kind of playback. So that's why I couldn't get them to play. It's just a function of me not completely understanding the Oppo or the various file formats yet. Thanks for the info, and I'll use the flash drive for DSDs going forward.

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It's a 105. I've used the flash drive approach before, but my problem yesterday was that I was trying to stream the DSD from my computer in the same way I'm streaming FLACs (using JRiver). I now understand that the Oppo doesn't support that kind of playback. So that's why I couldn't get them to play. It's just a function of me not completely understanding the Oppo or the various file formats yet. Thanks for the info, and I'll use the flash drive for DSDs going forward.

 

I keep all my DSD files on a remote but networked drive and the Oppo 105 can access via the network and play them without jRiver. However, one must use SMB and not DLNA.

Kal Rubinson

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The 105D will do DSD via the Asynchronous USB, but not the 105. You can stream DSD via SMB, or play DSD via a USB flash drive. Both sound great.

 

I was under the impression that the 105 and 105D don't differ regarding DSD. I have the 105 (not the D) and it plays DSD via USB flash drive aok. The 103 will not, however (I have one of those as well).

Mark

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I was under the impression that the 105 and 105D don't differ regarding DSD. I have the 105 (not the D) and it plays DSD via USB flash drive aok. The 103 will not, however (I have one of those as well).

Mark

I, too, have both and my 103 also plays DSD via flash drive, as you say, AOK.

Kal Rubinson

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