High Grade SATA cables Sound

[sandyk]

Just you and Sandy Alex.

 

kumakuma

Was that called for ?

I have already clearly stated that I use as short as possible , normal SATA 3 6 GBs cables, that are bought off ebay (a Nth. Queensland PC components supplier) for well under $10 including P&P. I use 25cm SATA 3 cables so that there is none of the lead draped over the motherboard, and they can also be placed against the metalwork of the PC for further improved screening and airflow.

[sandyk]

My apologies. I didn't not know this.

 

I assumed that you would be interested in owning better quality SATA cable because you kept hounding Paul to go see if he could hear the difference between different SATA cables at Lee's place.

 

So what you are saying is that it isn't the quality of the cable that's important but it's length and how it is arranged inside the computer?

 

kumakuma

Lee has invited Paul to hear these at either his or Paul's place, and Paul has indicated that he was interested in visiting Lee.

As Lee has already heard the differences between the files that I uploaded, after he said that he would be interested to hear one of my rips, it would also be an opportunity to see if Paul could hear the same differences as Lee hears from these files.

If Paul was able to , and also able to verify that at least on this occasion the checksums were still in fact identical, that would have given some common ground for further co-operation in finding the reasons why.

That thread was never intended to be a discussion thread, especially as the OP said that he heard benefits from using Safe Mode. It's up to the OP to decide if any of my suggestions were worthwhile or not.

 

No, I am saying that this type of cable is better due to having 2 separate screened cables in it's construction instead of 7 wires side by side in the typical rather long generic SATA cables supplied with many PCs that may, or may not, be as reliable at the wider bandwidths involved. It's normally better to use shorter cables as the earth reference resistances will be lower.

I would love to try Lee's suggestion of an Asus SATA 3 cable if I could find one 25cm long instead of the typical 50cm Asus cable .

I do have a longer Asus SATA 3 cable, but I don't wish to have it draped over other components.

 

Alex

[sandyk]

40 minutes ago, GeneZ said:

If it were simply a matter of only being zeros and pluses? 

 

USB cords would all sound the same to the DAC.  Do they? No.

 

Its not the case....   Something is piggy backing on top of those +'s  and 0's that better cables eliminate.

 

 More likely they reduce, not eliminate.

[sandyk]

15 minutes ago, plissken said:

when you use Foobar ABX comparitor tool all on your own setup from the DAC back. 

 

 Since when was the Poobar software regarded as Audiophile quality by C.A. members , let alone using it with it's comparator?

 Many members prefer the use of HQ Player, XXHE , cPlay, Audirvana  etc. over Foobar which was designed by a committee, and more likely to reveal differences where there are differences !

[sandyk]

Just now, plissken said:

 

You let me know when you want to put those products in bit perfect mode and compare to FooBar blinded. 

   

Dream on.

Unlike you, I prefer a level playing field.

[sandyk]

Just now, plissken said:

We can setup a system that I can remote control and we'll just turn off the monitor while you evaluate. 

 

You really are stupid if you think that anybody would trust you, with or without a remote control,  to arrange any kind of definitive tests.

As I replied recently to Ralf11, 6 separate DBTs, performed  M.C.  on different dates, each session with 8 repeats, and all of them POSITIVE, is FAR from the toss of a stupid coin !

 

BYE!

 

[sandyk]

You don't need to pay huge amounts of money to see if better SATA cable are worthwhile or not.
Use the shortest possible possible cables such as the attached, which have 2 separate shielded cables internally.
 Even if you are unable to hear a difference directly, they will help to improve airflow and reduce pickup
of internally radiated RF/EMI from Motherboard PWM controlled fans etc.
They are well under $10 each.
     These types of SATA cables are very widely available. 
Attached is where I bought mine from. You can clearly see the 2 separate shielded cables in the photos.

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/sis.html?_nkw=SATA+3+III+3.0+DATA+HDD+SSD+Cable+25CM+%2F+10"+-+UV+Blue+W%2F-+Latch&_id=110984713671&&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2658
 

[sandyk]

11 minutes ago, plissken said:

 

Been using Intel NUC's that don't require any SATA cabling at all. Just M.2. I have some replacement audiophile PCB traces on order.

 

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

N.B.

 I am not recommending that members spend 100s of $ on boutique SATA cables.

Even if they do result in any improvement, a much shorter and direct cable as I suggested should perform

either the same or close to the boutique cables of a longer length.

Many members use internal SATA cables that are far longer than necessary, partly due to them being what came with their purchase.

 

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