firedog Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Anyone got this, would love to see the DR, if it is like the original CD it will be about 12 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
rodaguilera Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 +1 - Mac mini 2.3 Ghz i7 16gb Ram with Mojo Audio Joule III PSU(2T SSD) -> Audioquest Diamond USB -> dCS Vivaldi DAC (Shunyata Alpha Digital) -> Transparent XL Gen5 XLR -> Classé CA-M600 -> Audioquest OAK single biwire -> B&W 802D3. Software: Mac OSX El Captain, Audirvana 2.2, Amarra Symphony IRC, Roon. Storage: Lacie 5big Network 2 5T. Power Conditioner: Shunyata Triton + Typhon. Link to comment
burnspbesq Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Not in the mood today to plunk down USD 25 for a high-res download whose provenance is completely unknown and undocumented (as far as I can tell). Maybe tomorrow. I am a huge Crowded House fan. Office: MacBook Pro - Audirvana Plus - Resonessence Concero - Cavailli Liquid Carbon - Sennheiser HD 800. Travel/Portable: iPhone 7 or iPad Pro - AudioQuest Dragonfly Red - Audeze SINE or Noble Savant Link to comment
wullsy Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Not great. This is the 192Khz HDTracks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Crowded House / Crowded House -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR8 -1.03 dB -10.75 dB 3:14 01-Mean To Me DR8 -0.83 dB -10.54 dB 3:08 02-World Where You Live DR8 -1.38 dB -10.66 dB 4:07 03-Now We're Getting Somewhere DR8 -1.27 dB -11.07 dB 3:59 04-Don't Dream It's Over DR8 -0.47 dB -10.98 dB 3:35 05-Love You 'Til The Day I Die DR7 -0.77 dB -10.00 dB 2:54 06-Something So Strong DR8 -0.85 dB -11.70 dB 3:58 07-Hole In The River DR8 -0.24 dB -10.52 dB 3:57 08-Can't Carry On DR7 -1.08 dB -10.43 dB 3:05 09-I Walk Away DR8 -1.02 dB -10.43 dB 3:30 10-Tombstone DR8 -1.03 dB -10.88 dB 3:39 11-That's What I Call Love -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 11 Official DR value: DR8 Samplerate: 192000 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 24 Bitrate: 6066 kbps Codec: FLAC ================================================================================ Link to comment
rodaguilera Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Not great. This is the 192Khz HDTracks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Crowded House / Crowded House -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR8 -1.03 dB -10.75 dB 3:14 01-Mean To Me DR8 -0.83 dB -10.54 dB 3:08 02-World Where You Live DR8 -1.38 dB -10.66 dB 4:07 03-Now We're Getting Somewhere DR8 -1.27 dB -11.07 dB 3:59 04-Don't Dream It's Over DR8 -0.47 dB -10.98 dB 3:35 05-Love You 'Til The Day I Die DR7 -0.77 dB -10.00 dB 2:54 06-Something So Strong DR8 -0.85 dB -11.70 dB 3:58 07-Hole In The River DR8 -0.24 dB -10.52 dB 3:57 08-Can't Carry On DR7 -1.08 dB -10.43 dB 3:05 09-I Walk Away DR8 -1.02 dB -10.43 dB 3:30 10-Tombstone DR8 -1.03 dB -10.88 dB 3:39 11-That's What I Call Love -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 11 Official DR value: DR8 Samplerate: 192000 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 24 Bitrate: 6066 kbps Codec: FLAC ================================================================================ Thanks for the info! I think i'll buy first press rebook cd from the 80s: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed folder: /Volumes/HDD #2/Crowded House ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Filename ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR12 -0.26 dB -14.64 dB Mean To Me.aif DR12 -0.63 dB -14.58 dB World Where You Live.aif DR12 -1.58 dB -14.91 dB Now We're Getting Somewhere.aif DR13 -0.95 dB -16.15 dB Don't Dream It's Over.aif DR12 -0.32 dB -15.73 dB Love You 'Til The Day I Die.aif DR13 -0.01 dB -14.44 dB Something So Strong.aif DR13 -0.57 dB -17.10 dB Hole In The River.aif DR12 -0.60 dB -14.46 dB Can't Carry On.aif DR12 -1.28 dB -15.82 dB Tombstone.aif DR12 -1.95 dB -16.61 dB That's What I Call Love.aif ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of files: 10 Official DR value: DR12 - Mac mini 2.3 Ghz i7 16gb Ram with Mojo Audio Joule III PSU(2T SSD) -> Audioquest Diamond USB -> dCS Vivaldi DAC (Shunyata Alpha Digital) -> Transparent XL Gen5 XLR -> Classé CA-M600 -> Audioquest OAK single biwire -> B&W 802D3. Software: Mac OSX El Captain, Audirvana 2.2, Amarra Symphony IRC, Roon. Storage: Lacie 5big Network 2 5T. Power Conditioner: Shunyata Triton + Typhon. Link to comment
nightenrock Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Has anyone compared this to the old DVD-A or Dual Disc? Link to comment
integriscdp Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Has anyone compared this to the old DVD-A or Dual Disc? The old DVD-A does not contain a stereo track. It has a 5.1 96/24 surround mix. My digital 'reference' for this album has always been the Japanese EMI Black Triangle (CP32 catalog # series). It sounds really good to my ears. Link to comment
Synfreak Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The old DVD-A does not contain a stereo track. It has a 5.1 96/24 surround mix. IIRC, the DVD-Audio also contains a a "Video_TS" folder (DVD-Video), which does offer a 96kHz/24Bit Stereo programm. And i think it was also quite compressed. I try to get the DR ratings of it, if i can find it ;-) Esoterc SA-60 / Foobar2000 -> Mytek Stereo 192 DSD / Audio-GD NFB 28.38 -> MEG RL922K / AKG K500 / AKG K1000 / Audioquest Nighthawk / OPPO PM-2 / Sennheiser HD800 / Sennheiser Surrounder / Sony MA900 / STAX SR-303+SRM-323II Link to comment
Nes Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Ughh, missed opportunity Really like Crowded House and would have bought in a heartbeat if it was a real upgrade. Not great. This is the 192Khz HDTracks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Crowded House / Crowded House -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR8 -1.03 dB -10.75 dB 3:14 01-Mean To Me DR8 -0.83 dB -10.54 dB 3:08 02-World Where You Live DR8 -1.38 dB -10.66 dB 4:07 03-Now We're Getting Somewhere DR8 -1.27 dB -11.07 dB 3:59 04-Don't Dream It's Over DR8 -0.47 dB -10.98 dB 3:35 05-Love You 'Til The Day I Die DR7 -0.77 dB -10.00 dB 2:54 06-Something So Strong DR8 -0.85 dB -11.70 dB 3:58 07-Hole In The River DR8 -0.24 dB -10.52 dB 3:57 08-Can't Carry On DR7 -1.08 dB -10.43 dB 3:05 09-I Walk Away DR8 -1.02 dB -10.43 dB 3:30 10-Tombstone DR8 -1.03 dB -10.88 dB 3:39 11-That's What I Call Love -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 11 Official DR value: DR8 Samplerate: 192000 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 24 Bitrate: 6066 kbps Codec: FLAC ================================================================================ Merging NADAC / Theta Compli --> Spectral DMC-20 --> Spectral DMA-250 --> Avalon Ascendant (with tweeter upgrades) Link to comment
integriscdp Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 IIRC, the DVD-Audio also contains a a "Video_TS" folder (DVD-Video), which does offer a 96kHz/24Bit Stereo programm.And i think it was also quite compressed. I try to get the DR ratings of it, if i can find it ;-) Hmmmm...I will have to take another look at it as well. The DVD-A extractor program I used must have ignored that folder, I suppose. Thanks. Link to comment
Synfreak Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 As promised, here is the DR report for the DVD(-Video) Stereo tracks from the 2002 DVD-Audio disc: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Analyzed: Crowded House / Crowded House (2002 Remaster) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR6 -0.30 dB -8.36 dB 3:13 01-Mean to Me DR6 -0.30 dB -8.38 dB 3:07 02-World Where You Live DR6 -0.30 dB -7.95 dB 4:07 03-Now We're Getting Somewhere DR7 -0.30 dB -9.13 dB 3:59 04-Don't Dream It's Over DR7 -0.30 dB -8.53 dB 3:32 05-Love You 'Til the Day I Die DR6 -0.30 dB -7.93 dB 2:54 06-Something So Strong DR7 -0.30 dB -9.71 dB 3:57 07-Hole in the River DR7 -0.30 dB -8.65 dB 3:57 08-Can't Cary On DR7 -0.30 dB -8.95 dB 3:04 09-I Walk Away DR7 -0.30 dB -9.01 dB 3:30 10-Tombstone DR7 -0.30 dB -9.28 dB 3:40 11-That's What I Call Love -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 11 Official DR value: DR7 Samplerate: 96000 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 24 Bitrate: 3313 kbps Codec: WavPack ================================================================================ Even more compressed/limited as the DL. Esoterc SA-60 / Foobar2000 -> Mytek Stereo 192 DSD / Audio-GD NFB 28.38 -> MEG RL922K / AKG K500 / AKG K1000 / Audioquest Nighthawk / OPPO PM-2 / Sennheiser HD800 / Sennheiser Surrounder / Sony MA900 / STAX SR-303+SRM-323II Link to comment
integriscdp Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 As promised, here is the DR report for the DVD(-Video) Stereo tracks from the 2002 DVD-Audio disc: Even more compressed/limited as the DL. Thanks for the info. I was never a big fan of the surround mix, so it's safe to assume that I would be no fonder of the stereo mix. Looks like the Japan EMI Black Triangle CD will continue to be my reference. Link to comment
millifoo Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Thanks for the info! I think i'll buy first press rebook cd from the 80s I recommend hunting down the 3-cd box set (printing in the 90s), I think pressed in Holland. It has a slightly different running order for the first album, and the one big improvement is that the first guitar strum of "Something So Strong" isn't chopped (albeit it's only a few milliseconds chopped off on the domestic release - I never even noticed until I bought the box set). It looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/85Fgo27.jpg Link to comment
rodaguilera Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I recommend hunting down the 3-cd box set (printing in the 90s), I think pressed in Holland. It has a slightly different running order for the first album, and the one big improvement is that the first guitar strum of "Something So Strong" isn't chopped (albeit it's only a few milliseconds chopped off on the domestic release - I never even noticed until I bought the box set). It looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/85Fgo27.jpg Great. Thanks! - Mac mini 2.3 Ghz i7 16gb Ram with Mojo Audio Joule III PSU(2T SSD) -> Audioquest Diamond USB -> dCS Vivaldi DAC (Shunyata Alpha Digital) -> Transparent XL Gen5 XLR -> Classé CA-M600 -> Audioquest OAK single biwire -> B&W 802D3. Software: Mac OSX El Captain, Audirvana 2.2, Amarra Symphony IRC, Roon. Storage: Lacie 5big Network 2 5T. Power Conditioner: Shunyata Triton + Typhon. Link to comment
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