Who's used the Audiophile Optimizer for Windows 2012 Server or Windows 8?

[AudioPhil]

Hello Hurka

 

this is normal, the JRiver installer does not work in Core Mode.

 

Run the installer on another PC and select the portable installation. Then copy the entire Folder to your AudioPC, then JRiver will work.

 

Best,

AudioPhil

 

 

 

 

[romaz]

On 4/6/2017 at 11:35 AM, AudioPhil said:

 

Hello romaz

 

Then AO 2.20 will be most likely what you are waiting for :-)

 

Best,

AudioPhil

 

 

Phil, when can we expect 2.20 to be released?

[highend-pcdoctor]

Hello romaz,

You can download 2.20 beta 4 from the https://www.highend-audiopc.com/download

I have been using it for a while on my Windows Server 2016 core Audio-PC without any issues.

My player of choice is HySolid which sounds great. I have posted installation instructions on CA and JPlay forums to install HySolid if your setup is Windows 2016 core. If you are using JPlay you need to follow the instructions, if you don't use JPlay then it is a straight forward installation. I use Q-Dir in core to save me a lot of CLI typing.

So, Phil keeps producing better, and better SQ with each of his releases, his software is a must have for any computer audio, whether you are an audiophile or not.

Version 2.20 b4 has a deeper, wider soundstage, more definition and details in the voices, instruments, and definitely improvement in the layering over the other iterations of the 2.20 beta releases. It just keeps on getting better.

I am chomping at the bit, waiting and hoping that he will get Roon and Tidal working in Windows Server 2016 core.

Best,

Leon

[dtb300]

Not only programming, but support on this site an others (JPlay for one), and then emails for support, and working a real job, and most important family time.   So production of a new release takes time.

 

+1 on  Beta - It is testing, reporting, trying things, not just running it to have the latest greatest.  Try to make it break and report back..  Lastly if you are in a beta, have a good solid image of your system, as Jeremy stated things can go awry.  Phil also recommends a back up or image for easy restore if needed.

[Franatic]

21 minutes ago, jeremy.collake said:

As a fellow developer, let me say - don't rush Phil. Haste makes waste. That is why us programmers like to say "it will be done when it's done". Not because we are complacent, but who knows what might come up in development or testing, and it's better to properly address those concerns than hastily disregard them to meet some exact date. I think I am the only idiot who still gives exact release dates that I never meet exactly.

 

Also be careful with betas. I tell my users: Do NOT use beta versions on production systems. But many do. Phil's betas may be more stable than mine, but from time to time in a beta branch, something goes awry, as it is designed for. Thus, don't try to 'beat the clock' by going beta unless you are committed to testing!

Jeremy, I have to make a point about Phil's betas. He really tests the hell out of them before he makes them available. I've never had anything but the most minor issues with any of his betas. He's never had to pull one back. I have no hesitancy in using them. Phil's betas are more reliable than most developers official releases, and his official releases are bulletproof because they have been tested by his loyal beta users.

I am running 2.20 beta 4 now with no issues. Phil is an incredibly proficient programmer and has the well known Swiss ability to have incredible attention to details. His manual is the best manual of anything I own. Keep up the good work Phil and get all that stuff working in 2016 core mode ASAP! Poor man, your work is never done. There is always new things to make work.

[Franatic]

It is Phil's thread and I have a few years experience with his betas. Phil personally tests them thoroughly before releasing the betas. I can....and should, convey my experience with Phil and his software. We know that all systems are different and beta testing is necessary no matter how thorough he is. 

Phil might say something about the subject, but he's Swiss. He lets his results and his customer's do the talking. I'm not defending, just testifying. You are making general statements about betas, I'm talking specifically about my experience with Phil's betas.

[Big AL]

1 hour ago, Franatic said:

It is Phil's thread and I have a few years experience with his betas. Phil personally tests them thoroughly before releasing the betas. I can....and should, convey my experience with Phil and his software. We know that all systems are different and beta testing is necessary no matter how thorough he is. 

Phil might say something about the subject, but he's Swiss. He lets his results and his customer's do the talking. I'm not defending, just testifying. You are making general statements about betas, I'm talking specifically about my experience with Phil's betas.

 

I could not agree with you more, Franatic. I have only been running Audiophile Optimizer for about 1.5 years now but I have to say, as a developer myself, that I have NEVER come across a more thoroughly tested piece of software. And that includes the software I develop myself. I just don't have the patience for debugging at THAT level.

 

Phil is meticulous beyond description and whether it's because he's Swiss or whether it's just a personality trait, I have no idea and I really don't care. All I know is the end result of his HARD work (a bug-free AO) and how much he truly cares about his customers.

 

I couldn't begin to tell you how many questions and comments I've emailed to Phil, and every single one of them have been answered and/or addressed. I don't know how he does it but he ALWAYS takes time out of his busy schedule to answer my  (probably dumb) questions, and he does it so quickly it's almost scary.

 

We are VERY lucky to have Phil and I for one am extremely grateful for everything he does and especially for every line of code he writes! 

[Big AL]

45 minutes ago, jeremy.collake said:

However, the reason for a beta, and I think Phil has surely said this - any developer would - is to test, and they are not meant for production systems, else you call them final. If he says his betas are good enough for production systems, that's fine, but not industry standard by any means.

 

 

I keep seeing you reference "not meant for production systems" (or words to that effect). I'm running AO on my studio computer, which I guess technically is a "production system", since I'm 'producing' (recording) music on it. That said, I'm running AO 2.2 Beta 4 and have yet to come across ANYTHING untoward. I've also been running it since it was available for download, although I'm not sure when that was. It's as rock solid as the previous 'full release' production version (or whatever it's called). And here's the important (to me) part; it actually sounds BETTER than the previous production/full release version.

 

I guess my point is that I'm NOT producing anything earth shattering or of GREAT importance, either to the world OR to me. If I lose a track, no bit deal. It's simple enough to record another one, although that's never happened while running ANY version (beta or otherwise) of AO. My financial 'books' (data entry, record keeping, etc.) are all entered and kept on a separate (office) computer, NOT because I don't trust my studio computer or AO but because it's just simpler that way and it keeps my studio computer nice and clean. Clutter free is GOOD on a computer used for music production, whether it's just for listening, recording or for both. That's my studio computer; it does BOTH.

 

I guess I'd never really thought about the stability of an AO beta version, since I've run quite a few of them. I guess if my studio computer was connected to a nuclear reactor, then sure .... I MIGHT hesitate to load AO onto it, although it's doubtful I'd be listening to 'Jazz at the Pawnshop' on a computer connected to a nuclear reactor. Sure, that's an extreme example, but I'm hesitant to even suggest that there might be something buggy or unstable about ANY version of AO (beta or otherwise) that might prevent me from loading it onto ANY computer. It's just VERY stable and 100% reliable. Good stuff!

[romaz]

10 hours ago, highend-pcdoctor said:

Hello romaz,

You can download 2.20 beta 4 from the https://www.highend-audiopc.com/download

I have been using it for a while on my Windows Server 2016 core Audio-PC without any issues.

My player of choice is HySolid which sounds great. I have posted installation instructions on CA and JPlay forums to install HySolid if your setup is Windows 2016 core. If you are using JPlay you need to follow the instructions, if you don't use JPlay then it is a straight forward installation. I use Q-Dir in core to save me a lot of CLI typing.

So, Phil keeps producing better, and better SQ with each of his releases, his software is a must have for any computer audio, whether you are an audiophile or not.

Version 2.20 b4 has a deeper, wider soundstage, more definition and details in the voices, instruments, and definitely improvement in the layering over the other iterations of the 2.20 beta releases. It just keeps on getting better.

I am chomping at the bit, waiting and hoping that he will get Roon and Tidal working in Windows Server 2016 core.

Best,

Leon

 

Leon, I believe you missed the point of my post. I'm sure it sounds great but I have zero interest in a beta. It was Phil himself that suggested he has figured out how to run Roon in Core mode based on his response to my query (Phil, correct me if I've misunderstood your statement). This is HUGE!!! All I want to know now is when 2.20 will be released. Just a simple question. I'm not trying to rush anyone but this is truly exciting news!

[greenleo]

8 hours ago, romaz said:

 

Leon, I believe you missed the point of my post. I'm sure it sounds great but I have zero interest in a beta. It was Phil himself that suggested he has figured out how to run Roon in Core mode based on his response to my query (Phil, correct me if I've misunderstood your statement). This is HUGE!!! All I want to know now is when 2.20 will be released. Just a simple question. I'm not trying to rush anyone but this is truly exciting news!

Hi Roy,

 

It seems to me that Phil answered elsewhere that it's ROON that can't work in the Core mode.  I'm using Core 2016 right now, excited by Phil's reply as what you've quoted and waiting the production version of the AO v.20 as well.

 

[romaz]

1 hour ago, greenleo said:

Hi Roy,

 

It seems to me that Phil answered elsewhere that it's ROON that can't work in the Core mode.  I'm using Core 2016 right now, excited by Phil's reply as what you've quoted and waiting the production version of the AO v.20 as well.

 

 

 

All I can say, Green Leo, is that on 2 Feb, I mentioned to Phil that I thought it would be really nice if he could figure out a way to run RoonServer in Core mode and out of the blue, last Thursday, Phil decided to respond to my post from 2 Feb and this was his response:

 

You decide for yourself why he would respond in this fashion.

 

Then, when I responded back with the following response, Phil gave me "reputation" for it.  

 

Again, you decide for yourself what this means.  Phil, himself, has suggested that 2.20 will be huge and perhaps the most important upgrade since AO's inception.

 

 

[Franatic]

A little birdie told me Roon will be working in core mode in beta 5.

[greenleo]

1 hour ago, Franatic said:

A little birdie told me Roon will be working in core mode in beta 5.

That's a great news indeed Fran.

[Franatic]

3 minutes ago, greenleo said:

That's a great news indeed Fran.

Very unofficial, let's hope it comes true!

[alcarp]

Does AO 2.0 now work with Windows Server 2016 if core mode is not used?

[hurka]

should be working...

[hurka]

My wss2016 core +ao 2.2b4  ssd broken.

I put back 2012gui+ao2.2b4 ssd for listen.......Crappy!

 

 

[greenleo]

10 hours ago, alcarp said:

Does AO 2.0 now work with Windows Server 2016 if core mode is not used?

The AO beta version definitely works with W 16 Core mode.  You may check the topic AO Beta Thread in the Highend-Audio PC forum.

[rickca]

Phil, when will AO support Windows 10 Creator's Update?

[Big AL]

Phil --- more importantly, is there any REASON to install the Windows 10 Creators Update? Or is it just more fluff with nothing actually useful to offer, in terms of audio?

[AudioPhil]

17 hours ago, rickca said:

Phil, when will AO support Windows 10 Creator's Update?

Hi

 

AO 2.20 Beta 5 will cover support for the creators update.

 

Best,

AudioPhil

[AudioPhil]

3 hours ago, Big AL said:

Phil --- more importantly, is there any REASON to install the Windows 10 Creators Update? Or is it just more fluff with nothing actually useful to offer, in terms of audio?

Hi Al

 

I have not yet tested how and if the new "game mode" has any influence on sound quality. Otherwise i don't see any urgent need to update to the creators update.

 

Best,

AudioPhil

[greenleo]

11 hours ago, AudioPhil said:

Hi

 

AO 2.20 Beta 5 will cover support for the creators update.

 

Best,

AudioPhil

Any estimate of its launching date?

[AudioPhil]

Hello

 

No exact date but i think we'll see the public release of Beta 5 within the next 2 weeks.

 

Best,

AudioPhil

[greenleo]

2 hours ago, AudioPhil said:

Hello

 

No exact date but i think we'll see the public release of Beta 5 within the next 2 weeks.

 

Best,

AudioPhil

Great!  Would ROON work with it in  Core 2016?